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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2078
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:22:00 -
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Essentially these reveal players on the map with different strengths, some have longer range and others show targets for longer.
What it boils down is that no one uses them because - while useful - dont have much in line for rewarding the support given, unlike all other forms of Equipment.
So, what do you guys think about giving 5/10 WP if a target is killed while revealed under the scan duration? This can be as short as 5.0 seconds for less powerful variants or 25.0 seconds for others, as an example. |
Telleth
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:49:00 -
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It sounds good, but would this cross over to vehicle active scanners as well? Maybe make it only work for kills not made by the scanner or some way to prevent it from just being bonus points for the player with the active scanner. |
TheLastAlive105
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
1
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:53:00 -
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GREAT IDEA! This would definitely improve the active scanner use for infantry and vehicles that way those godforsaken LLAVS can actually be used like their suppose to. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2081
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:58:00 -
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Telleth wrote:It sounds good, but would this cross over to vehicle active scanners as well? Maybe make it only work for kills not made by the scanner or some way to prevent it from just being bonus points for the player with the active scanner.
Considering that its only 5 points per kill a Skirmish match would only be 500 points if you scanned every single clone, repair tools and nanohives give more points than this would lol. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
13
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Posted - 2013.07.18 04:46:00 -
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Hope CCP will listen to this request its a great idea. Hell if its just 1 point it still will push players to use it alittle more. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2081
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:05:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Hope CCP will listen to this request its a great idea. Hell if its just 1 point it still will push players to use it alittle more.
I personally enjoy the reaction it gets from my corp mates whenever they see more red than a Bluedot Tampon can handle =) |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
157
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:15:00 -
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I thought you were going to go too far and suggest giving points every time you reveal someone but you reeled it back in.
A very nice idea. But should only work on targets the scanner reveals and for the time. If they are spotted and then you scan no points or else people will just spam these when others are killing. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2089
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:19:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:I thought you were going to go too far and suggest giving points every time you reveal someone but you reeled it back in.
A very nice idea. But should only work on targets the scanner reveals and for the time. If they are spotted and then you scan no points or else people will just spam these when others are killing.
Essentially, yes. That 5.0 second window is a bit narrow though, maybe from the point they start taking damage to the point they recover, much like how Kill Assists work.
Yanno unless youve specced intothem and got the one that put them on the map for 25 seconds O.o |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
649
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:01:00 -
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definitely need more benefits to leveling this skill |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Immortals of War
2397
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:22:00 -
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Suggested several builds ago, and acknowledged by CCP |
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
75
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:18:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Suggested several builds ago, and acknowledged by CCP
So what? SoonTM? |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
19
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Posted - 2013.07.18 21:19:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:I thought you were going to go too far and suggest giving points every time you reveal someone but you reeled it back in.
A very nice idea. But should only work on targets the scanner reveals and for the time. If they are spotted and then you scan no points or else people will just spam these when others are killing.
agreed its should be a 5 to 8 second scoring opportunity no more. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University
Ivy League
70
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:23:00 -
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needs to be 25 WP bonus as a "Spotting assist" so you can rlly get points and I think that the person who scanned should get the points as long as its scanned. (if it lasts awhile I rlly havent used them, and if it doesnt last awhile I guess make AVG time on lower lvls 10-15 seconds proto lvl 25-30 seconds) |
TheLastAlive105
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
1
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:31:00 -
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no the scan time is fine dont change it we dont want people spamming it for points |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
115
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Posted - 2013.07.19 01:12:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Essentially these reveal players on the map with different strengths, some have longer range and others show targets for longer.
What it boils down is that no one uses them because - while useful - dont have much in line for rewarding the support given, unlike all other forms of Equipment.
So, what do you guys think about giving 5/10 WP if a target is killed while revealed under the scan duration? This can be as short as 5.0 seconds for less powerful variants or 25.0 seconds for others, as an example.
It sound's great.
I give you my point of view. I'm using that best Vehicle Scanner on me HAV, I don't get wp for revealing Infantry - but knowing from with direction next wave of AV comes it's a greatest reward I can imagine.
I'm looking at whole Scanning thing like on Tackling in EVE. It is role reserved for new characters, all they have to do is to hold target on 'point' preventing him from warp out, long enough to let some of gang member to put his point on that target, and then they can die peacefully(with they usually do). it might appear that the tacklers are not doing too much, but it determines with gang gone win, whos gonna come back to home with trophy, and smile on face.
That's why I think that Scanning work similar in Dust like Tackling in EVE, it's not a primary thing that bring your team a victory, but it makes a big difference.
I would like to see in future more advanced scanners, maybe even some Medium Assault Vehicle that have instead of medium turrets some huge scanner, that besides revealing red dots also reveal dropsuit type, weapons, AV or if some other friendly vehicle is in his range, it work for him by extending his scanner sensors, allowing him to see signature of incoming swarms head, or boosting his scanner proximity.. and stuff like that  .
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2132
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:20:00 -
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[quote=TheLastAlive105]no the scan time is fine dont change it we dont want people spamming it for points[quote]
Its five WP.... Even if you scanned every player in a Skirmish match before they died youd still only get 750 total WP. Its much more efficient to spam Drop Uplinks/Nanohives and use a repair tool if youre going for points |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
1024
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:27:00 -
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I agree, +5WP for Locator, or something like that, would be great.
But if this comes before dropship WP.... Grrrr. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
2132
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:36:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I agree, +5WP for Locator, or something like that, would be great.
But if this comes before dropship WP.... Grrrr.
Lawl - Dropship Pilots need spawn points like drop uplinks to give incentive to use onboard or module based CRUs. Add some Recon points for the Active Scanner use and a Dropship can go a long way =) |
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