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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:54:00 -
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So...since the official release of Dust 514, how has Scouting actually developed? I'm not talking specifically about the the drop suit but the role. Have people actually taken the role seriously and made it their main job instead of just using it once or twice a round? Is there actual reconnaissance? Any true assassination? And more importantly is there a need for it and a possibility of it happening or continuing in the future? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1173
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:57:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:So...since the official release of Dust 514, how has Scouting actually developed? I'm not talking specifically about the the drop suit but the role. Have people actually taken the role seriously and made it their main job instead of just using it once or twice a round? Is there actual reconnaissance? Any true assassination? And more importantly is there a need for it and a possibility of it happening or continuing in the future?
No. You can't see very far unless you equip a long range weapon, like a sniper rifle. Even then there are rendering issues.
The best you're going to do, atm, as a scout (and I mean scouting) is to sit on top a hill with a sniper rifle and call out targets to your team.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1323
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:59:00 -
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I use it most rounds, but I probably tank more.
I have Proto into Minnie Scout, Proto SG, ADV SMGs, and ADV Nova Knives.
The reason not much recon is being done is because the Scout's limited Equip slots and PG/CPU. Making it hard for a Scout to actually fulfill their role.
If we had two Equip slots I'd be using Active Scanners and Uplinks, but even then the limited PG/CPU means I'd have to sacrifice a Weapon or Module.
Anything a Scout can do, a Logi can do better. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Immortals of War
2385
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:59:00 -
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It's happened before, at least for me doing it. However, it's very rare.
My "scan assist" suggestion was originally to help true scouts get WP |
Scottie MaCallan
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:00:00 -
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passive scanner is broken so "scout" as a role is pretty borked.
speed tanked scouts make for great CQC shotgunners or nova knives though, especially minnie with the bonus to knives. they've got the fastest turn radius and with kin cats it's pretty fun |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
688
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:01:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:So...since the official release of Dust 514, how has Scouting actually developed? I'm not talking specifically about the the drop suit but the role. Have people actually taken the role seriously and made it their main job instead of just using it once or twice a round? Is there actual reconnaissance? Any true assassination? And more importantly is there a need for it and a possibility of it happening or continuing in the future?
The games that I've played. It is needed. Scouts that stay in their role don't get the kills as other classes, but that's not what we are here for. we tip the balance.
I've been scout since day one. I've played games where teams have used me to compliment there team, and I've have games where I literally have to ******* carry the team across the map cause for some reason they can't capture and hold.
Takes a 3 or 4 guys to remove me, and stay there to keep me from getting back my objective. 3- 4 guys removed from battle.
How the hell a squad of 5 can't get one bloody objective and hold it is beyond me. |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
563
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:05:00 -
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They need to increase the base scan range for scouts (especially Gallente)
10 meters is terrible. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3396
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:38:00 -
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There are ninjas like me who can infiltrate and cause all sorts of harassment within the city structures while the rest of the team is holding them back. Since the city structures cause problems for snipers due to visual obstruction, CQC scouts can give valuable intel on where exactly the enemy is at in the city. Ninja scouts can also be used to disrupt the enemy's unit cohesion if done properly. |
Ghost Kaisar
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:There are ninjas like me who can infiltrate and cause all sorts of harassment within the city structures while the rest of the team is holding them back. Since the city structures cause problems for snipers due to visual obstruction, CQC scouts can give valuable intel on where exactly the enemy is at in the city. Ninja scouts can also be used to disrupt the enemy's unit cohesion if done properly.
^This
We should mainly kill stragglers in compounds, stalk groups and kill the slow ones. Harass and run. If they shoot back, run like hell and try and set up traps for people chasing you. Make trying to kill you so difficult and costly that they give up. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
594
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:55:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:They need to increase the base scan range for scouts (especially Gallente)
10 meters is terrible.
They need to increase the base scan range for everyone, and then more for scout. Thing is, with 10 meters scan radius nobody is passively scanning anyone. What this means is despite the scouts lower profile signature it makes no difference because it is hard to even scan a heavy.
If you increase the scan radius for every suit so people are actually picking up enemies on their radar, then it will make the scouts unique in that they don't show up on it. |
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
359
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:29:00 -
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The role of assassin is difficult to fulfill, as a flanked target more often than not has ample time to turn around and engage a would-be stealthy Scout. Uprising's elevated medium/heavy eHP is a contributing factor, though CQC mechanics and shotgun/knife hit detection are the primary factors to blame.
If CQC performance is improved addressed in Uprising 1.3, I suspect the Scout's assassin role will become more viable.
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