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Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:16:00 -
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...and now I feel... upset.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRns
I started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it.
But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't.
I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game...
I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days.
See you guys soon. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
698
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:23:00 -
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Pandora Mars wrote:...and now I feel... upset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRnsI started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it. But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't. I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game... I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days. See you guys soon.
That second video says 19 hours after deployment....wonder what is going on there? |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:30:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Pandora Mars wrote:...and now I feel... upset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRnsI started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it. But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't. I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game... I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days. See you guys soon. That second video says 19 hours after deployment....wonder what is going on there?
Someone probably thought DUST should be a game with battles that could last days or weeks. Then some executive probably said "We want to have a bigger presence in the e-sports field, it's what all the cool kids are doing! RAWR!" and it got scrapped, because short 15-20 minute matches are e-sports compatible.
There's only one tiny problem. We're not playing DUST for the e-sports. In fact, DUST doesn't have a presence in e-sports.
WELP |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
51
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:31:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Y U remind me about that? |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
990
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:31:00 -
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Even if they just added the scrolling planetary information that you see at the start of the E3 trailer to the beginning of each game, immersion would skyrocket.
Then dropships which passengers can actually see out of. Wow. Not to mention the audible breathing in that dead silence at the beginning. We should hear that only when we've got headphones on and we're walking in those areas where there is no other noise at all (except maybe ambient music, that's nice). Should be annoying for snipers because they keep hearing their own breathing.
And that huge bridge which is basically the map? That's cool. We need that too.
Sound being distorted when explosions go off nearby? Perfect for making MD and flaylock users think twice about close-range encounters. It would be confusing as hell to disorientate yourself. The enemy would be disorientated too, but to be honest I've seen people walk back and forth when hit by MDs. At least this way, people know for sure they're getting bombed. Also, have it mute out voice chat? ermahgerd, emmerrshun! Although since voice chat happens separately from the game, guess that won't work.
And when everything freezes with the voiceover, and the stats for a variety of items come up. We need that on our HUDs, not a bit of text, barely visible, at the bottom of our screens.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
729
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:35:00 -
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It was that first trailer that got me hyped and excited for Dust all those years ago.....and all I have to wonder is what happened to that vision, that engine, and that gritty, graphic, and corporate feel? |
Operative 1171 Aajli
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
79
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:01:00 -
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Lol. Welcome to CCP. They always promise big and deliver only a fraction of what they present. Not to mention EVE will never allow for that kind of planet/space interaction. By design EVE just doesn't promote simple fleeting. Only big alliances will ever have a stake in such complex space/planetary battles. CCP sidelines the majority of its player base. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
944
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:26:00 -
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Hardly that a load of rubish. Ccp provide the tool fot epic. Just most people are too lazy to do it. But I agree with the op. But I think it was some executive overrideing the wishes of company (I mean general staff) if look at dusts development it's very bi-poler it seems the grunts want big epic battles and some higher up the food chain wants e-sports. Just pick a freaking direction and stick with it |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2539
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:30:00 -
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Pandora Mars wrote:...and now I feel... upset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRnsI started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it. But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't. I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game... I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days. See you guys soon. I like the 2011 one, but I still fail to see why people are so enamored of the 2009 version. Sure it had a lot of neat features, but the visual and audio design left a lot to be desired.
I think we're all here looking for the game from that trailer and all the Future Visions they've released every year since then, and that's why I personally won't stop playing.
J-Lewis wrote:Someone probably thought DUST should be a game with battles that could last days or weeks. Then some executive probably said "We want to have a bigger presence in the e-sports field, it's what all the cool kids are doing! RAWR!" and it got scrapped, because short 15-20 minute matches are e-sports compatible. There's only one tiny problem. We're not playing DUST for the e-sports. In fact, DUST doesn't have a presence in e-sports. WELP I think you've been watching the Alex Jones show a bit too much, my friend. I really doubt someone in CCP actually shot down the idea of large-scale persistent battlefields in favor of supporting MLG.
I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
944
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:41:00 -
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Hay now e-sports is official reconsided by US government now :-P at the exact moment thry realized they can tax the hell out of it |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2539
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:43:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Hay now e-sports is official reconsided by US government now :-P at the exact moment thry realized they can tax the hell out of it GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
66
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:43:00 -
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you fell for the trailers to eh? ya I actually though that was going to be the gameplay when I got into closed beta, but nope. lobby shooter lobby shooter lobby shooter, grinding grinding grinding and me complaining on these forums |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
38
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:45:00 -
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Oh man! I watched that first video and at the end I had goosebumps and I teared up a little bit from the epic scope and design of the game. I want to play that, when does it come out?
Seriously though, I do quite enjoy the game in its present state, but looking at the videos compared to current gameplay, its hard to not have a look of consternation on one's face.
I guess I could try to compare it to loving a well made casserole that has some large chunky ingredients in it that I don't care to eat, so I eat around them to try to enjoy the rest of the dish. We all know what those large chunky ingredients are, to some degree or another, they're all over the forums. The best part is that this is a big casserole and I am able to share it with my corp mates and there is comradery developed eating around the large chunky bits.
I don't really eat food like this, just trying some analogy.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5236
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:53:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it. Sounds like someone's jelly
The gaming industry needs E Sports, and why anyone would be opposed to it is beyond me, personally. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:54:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:Oh man! I watched that first video and at the end I had goosebumps and I teared up a little bit from the epic scope and design of the game. I want to play that, when does it come out? Seriously though, I do quite enjoy the game in its present state, but looking at the videos compared to current gameplay, its hard to not have a look of consternation on one's face. I guess I could try to compare it to loving a well made casserole that has some large chunky ingredients in it that I don't care to eat, so I eat around them to try to enjoy the rest of the dish. We all know what those large chunky ingredients are, to some degree or another, they're all over the forums. The best part is that this is a big casserole and I am able to share it with my corp mates and there is comradery developed eating around the large chunky bits. I don't really eat food like this, just trying some analogy.
Expecting Beef, got Horse |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it. Sounds like someone's jelly The gaming industry needs E Sports, and why anyone would be opposed to it is beyond me, personally.
There's going to be an arena mode for that type of stuff in Dust isn't there? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5236
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:56:00 -
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da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it. Sounds like someone's jelly The gaming industry needs E Sports, and why anyone would be opposed to it is beyond me, personally. There's going to be an arena mode for that type of stuff in Dust isn't there? Yes, but I doubt DUST will be let into the competitive scene anytime soon, particularly if the Arena mode doesn't support set SP and equipment limits. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
686
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Hay now e-sports is official reconsided by US government now :-P at the exact moment thry realized they can tax the hell out of it GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME
Easy there. Those that are high up there in MLG are there for a reason. My Old Clan participated in MLG years ago. And these guys.. well they can destroy you in game, just by looking at you.
Now If it's PVP that really has you riled up, well then sucks I know, but PVE should have been added since start.
why doesn't anyone ever think of the care bares? why?!!! |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
67
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it. Sounds like someone's jelly The gaming industry needs E Sports, and why anyone would be opposed to it is beyond me, personally. There's going to be an arena mode for that type of stuff in Dust isn't there? Yes, but I doubt DUST will be let into the competitive scene anytime soon, particularly if the Arena mode doesn't support set SP and equipment limits.
oh wow looks like that might have to be worked on much longer, don't know how long CCP has been working on that though. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5236
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:14:00 -
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da GAND wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Yes, but I doubt DUST will be let into the competitive scene anytime soon, particularly if the Arena mode doesn't support set SP and equipment limits. oh wow looks like that might have to be worked on much longer, don't know how long CCP has been working on that though. I just can't see the competitive scene supporting the SP system of the longer you pay and play, the better you are.
In E Sports it's all about having a level playing field and letting nothing but skill, teamwork, and tactics decide the outcome. At least, that's how it should be.
Without having set SP limits and equipment in true competitive matches, you'll never actually achieve that, and people will always assume that X player won because he's a no lifer with money who plays all the time and won thanks to SP. We'll see how it all plays out, but without a system like that, don't expect to see DUST anywhere that's taken seriously in the competitive world. |
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
15
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:35:00 -
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in the second video at 1:20 a LAV takes down a tank
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da GAND
187. League of Infamy
68
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:43:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:in the second video at 1:20 a LAV takes down a tank
hahahaha lol thats a bit f***ed up |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
15
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:46:00 -
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da GAND wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:in the second video at 1:20 a LAV takes down a tank hahahaha lol thats a bit f***ed up i like the design of that LAV , the dropships aswell kinda like ships in future earth after Skynet attack from terminator movies and tanks look scary
hope we see those designs someday , if i dont quit dust untill then lol
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da GAND
187. League of Infamy
68
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:53:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:da GAND wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:in the second video at 1:20 a LAV takes down a tank hahahaha lol thats a bit f***ed up i like the design of that LAV , the dropships aswell kinda like ships in future earth after Skynet attack from terminator movies and tanks look scary hope we see those designs someday , if i dont quit dust untill then lol
ya we'll see how they balance things and if the updates make Dust 514 worth coming back from the ps4 |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:16:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Pandora Mars wrote:...and now I feel... upset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRnsI started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it. But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't. I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game... I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days. See you guys soon. I like the 2011 one, but I still fail to see why people are so enamored of the 2009 version. Sure it had a lot of neat features, but the visual and audio design left a lot to be desired. I think we're all here looking for the game from that trailer and all the Future Visions they've released every year since then, and that's why I personally won't stop playing. J-Lewis wrote:Someone probably thought DUST should be a game with battles that could last days or weeks. Then some executive probably said "We want to have a bigger presence in the e-sports field, it's what all the cool kids are doing! RAWR!" and it got scrapped, because short 15-20 minute matches are e-sports compatible. There's only one tiny problem. We're not playing DUST for the e-sports. In fact, DUST doesn't have a presence in e-sports. WELP I think you've been watching the Alex Jones show a bit too much, my friend. I really doubt someone in CCP actually shot down the idea of large-scale persistent battlefields in favor of supporting MLG. I mean, MLG is a ******* joke. No one even gives a **** about it anymore except to make fun of all the pathetic jerk-offs who actually participate in it.
CCP has a hard on for e-sports; they've been trying to get EVE into the limelight, with the EVE alliance tournament for years.
Thing is EVE isn't exactly a universe known for its fairness, which makes for rather poor sport; the lack of imposed rules make organized tournaments difficult, and so the player run tournaments (for example the Syndicate Competitive League) are often held on the test server, where losses don't matter.
Cue DUST 514; a lobby shooter that can be built from the ground up to encourage "fair competitive play".
DUST is incredibly tame when it comes to meta-gaming and fair games compared to EVE. Yeah, it's not all fair, but it's also not the wild west where anything goes. You can't bring 30 guys to stomp the 16 guys defending a district; and you certainly can't spam 16 HAVs to get the job done.
Uneven battles has been a staple of New Eden for 10 years. It's as much part of its DNA as Caldari being capitalist arseholes.
But apparently that might be a tad too hardcore for the console crowd? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5244
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:18:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:But apparently that might be a tad too hardcore for the console crowd? Whether it is or isn't doesn't change the fact that competitive groups that actually pay with sponsors and what not probably won't even look at DUST twice thanks to its lack of fair, skill based matches. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:J-Lewis wrote:But apparently that might be a tad too hardcore for the console crowd? Whether it is or isn't doesn't change the fact that competitive groups that actually pay with sponsors and what not probably won't even look at DUST twice thanks to its lack of fair, skill based matches. Exactly my point.
Its like PS2: trying to do both at the same time and failing at either.
Kitten, I referred to PS2. I feel dirty. |
Rennan Oliveira
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
5
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:47:00 -
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Pandora Mars wrote:...and now I feel... upset. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw0gOjOWDuIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVjggarRnsI started playing DUST this year for a mere coincidence, I just downloaded with a couple friends and we tried it together. They didn't like it, I'm the only one still playing it. But after watching these trailers I... I'm just amazed. The graphics, the special effects and the sounds were... simply awesome. 15 minutes ago I turned on my PS3 and played one match... and I wish I hadn't. I won't play DUST anymore until the feel I got from these trailers starts to get foggy and slowly slides out of my mind. It's too vivid right now and it makes the current game seem like a... I don't know... a 2005/2006 game? I really don't know how that's possible. The trailer is so... infinitely better than the game... I hope I will be back on the battlefield in 2 or 3 days. See you guys soon.
those videos are awesome indeed but have you already seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw if that is the true vision of the future then i'm not worried. Except with the time it will take to be done xD |
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