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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
729
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:48:00 -
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It honestly some times hard to play this game.
I even used to be one of its biggest fans, and would defend it vehemiently against all trolls and QQers..... and now I am one of those QQers...
Sad really because this game is really very good.
Except for the fact that I'm actively being punished for not using one of the bulk standard weapons, or subscribing to the current meta.....
I chose to be an Amarr RP Armour tanker..... big mistake. Every explosive in this game is a punishment. Contact Grenades, Core FlayLocks, Mass Drivers. There just isn't enough of a way to compete with every one else who ran shields....
I chose to run Lasers and Scrambler Rifles..... and to be honest Lasers are a much better gun that Scramblers are ....and Lasers are a bit of a joke..... but again since I don't run the FLaylock, Mass Driver or AR I;m just being punished by this game....
Blueberries..... I don't have to say anything about them we know how punishing it is to have to work with them....
So much for variation when one type of tanking clearly trumps the other, so much for customisation when all you have to do is use a standardised fit to do well....
I'm not complaining that I want this guns nerfed.... far from it. I think, and we all know it, that Amour needs to be buffed, other weapons need to be buffed to the level of these other guns...
The games excruciating otherwise..... |
Son Down
SamsClub
45
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:It honestly some times hard to play this game.
I even used to be one of its biggest fans, and would defend it vehemiently against all trolls and QQers..... and now I am one of those QQers...
Sad really because this game is really very good.
Except for the fact that I'm actively being punished for not using one of the bulk standard weapons, or subscribing to the current meta.....
I chose to be an Amarr RP Armour tanker..... big mistake. Every explosive in this game is a punishment. Contact Grenades, Core FlayLocks, Mass Drivers. There just isn't enough of a way to compete with every one else who ran shields....
I chose to run Lasers and Scrambler Rifles..... and to be honest Lasers are a much better gun that Scramblers are ....and Lasers are a bit of a joke..... but again since I don't run the FLaylock, Mass Driver or AR I;m just being punished by this game....
Blueberries..... I don't have to say anything about them we know how punishing it is to have to work with them....
So much for variation when one type of tanking clearly trumps the other, so much for customisation when all you have to do is use a standardised fit to do well....
I'm not complaining that I want this guns nerfed.... far from it. I think, and we all know it, that Amour needs to be buffed, other weapons need to be buffed to the level of these other guns...
The games excruciating otherwise.....
Newsflash.....like 80% of the playerbase, you're not very good at first person shooters. Never have, never will. Get over it.
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Duck Drahko
DUST University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:02:00 -
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The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
586
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:02:00 -
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HAHA !! welcome to the QQers club ...We have a Troll meeting on Fridays, Trolling is not necessary but will help you to improve your status. Ohhh... and it is 10,000,000 isk admission fee, send it to my account and i will send you a VIP card. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:14:00 -
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True, it sounds like u went for a setup that does not suit your playstyle. I can understand the rp reasions but if u can't fill the role u can't rp it roll a cal and see if u better. I don't agree with Sr comment as you have seen me with it :-P and armour tanking requires a more defense mind set. You can't charge in. It's ment to stop snipers and ar uses one shoting you. A amour Scr setup will beat a cal logi ever time if your a good player tbh |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
586
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I chose to be an Amarr RP Armour tanker..... big mistake. Nonsense, we stand by it together! Armor tanking may not be as good as shield tanking, but we manage and will pull out our repair tools. Scrambler Rifles may not be as good as ARs and Flaylocks, but we will devastate the masses with them anyways.
And honestly it's not like it's hard to kill with the Amarr weapons, its just that it's easier to kill with the other ones. But who needs that? Its not like we're actively participating in the joke that is Planetary Conquest. To me the people who run maxed out shields and core flaylocks in the instant battles and faction warfare are simply stating that they need every little advantage possible to compete. I am comfortable taking them done even a bit handicapped.
Not really excusing the lack of balance, rather I'm saying be patient. It will get more balanced with time, but it's not like you can't enjoy what we have now. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
729
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:25:00 -
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Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? Yeah that's what I'm doing.
Can say that the greatest moment I had was the other day when myself and three daring alliance pilots flew half way across new eden to try and drop and OB. We got into Molden Heath, chased by some pirates to our destinations, and had to lay low, and I was a very sad thing to say to the group team that we failed to drop the bomb....
However we managed to sneak out of hangar when the pirates went off, surprised the group team with our presence in orbit and dropped two Tactical strikes that helped the ground team secure that all important victory.
That's what makes me want to come back to this game. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
729
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:I chose to be an Amarr RP Armour tanker..... big mistake. Nonsense, we stand by it together! Armor tanking may not be as good as shield tanking, but we manage and will pull out our repair tools. Scrambler Rifles may not be as good as ARs and Flaylocks, but we will devastate the masses with them anyways. And honestly it's not like it's hard to kill with the Amarr weapons, its just that it's easier to kill with the other ones. But who needs that? Its not like we're actively participating in the joke that is Planetary Conquest. To me the people who run maxed out shields and core flaylocks in the instant battles and faction warfare are simply stating that they need every little advantage possible to compete. I am comfortable taking them done even a bit handicapped. Not really excusing the lack of balance, rather I'm saying be patient. It will get more balanced with time, but it's not like you can't enjoy what we have now. Yeah that's just frustration talking.... its more the Blue Dot issue than armour tanking.... |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
401
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:42:00 -
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Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it? |
Duck Drahko
DUST University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:03:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it?
Nah, I mean if your favourite fit isn't doing well right now to the point that you are not enjoying it at all, there is nothing wrong with waiting it out for a bit. Balance changes all the time and most setups go through good times and bad times. :) Of course the more of a niche your chosen path is, the more likely it is that there are bad times. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
731
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:05:00 -
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Duck Drahko wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it? Nah, I mean if your favourite fit isn't doing well right now to the point that you are not enjoying it at all, there is nothing wrong with waiting it out for a bit. Balance changes all the time and most setups go through good times and bad times. :) Of course the more of a niche your chosen path is, the more likely it is that there are bad times. Yeah PIE inc is a dedicated Amarrian RP corp for FW.... we kind of have to use Amarrian equipment.... and since armour is meh.... I'm kind of jaded about the whole shields vs Armour debate.... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
586
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it? Nah, I mean if your favourite fit isn't doing well right now to the point that you are not enjoying it at all, there is nothing wrong with waiting it out for a bit. Balance changes all the time and most setups go through good times and bad times. :) Of course the more of a niche your chosen path is, the more likely it is that there are bad times. Yeah PIE inc is a dedicated Amarrian RP corp for FW.... we kind of have to use Amarrian equipment.... and since armour is meh.... I'm kind of jaded about the whole shields vs Armour debate.... Keep in mind that although Amarr in EVE are armor tankers, in Dust they are "balance tankers" if such a thing exists. But anyways it makes equally as much sense to shield tank an Amarr dropsuit as it does to armor tank it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
731
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:15:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it? Nah, I mean if your favourite fit isn't doing well right now to the point that you are not enjoying it at all, there is nothing wrong with waiting it out for a bit. Balance changes all the time and most setups go through good times and bad times. :) Of course the more of a niche your chosen path is, the more likely it is that there are bad times. Yeah PIE inc is a dedicated Amarrian RP corp for FW.... we kind of have to use Amarrian equipment.... and since armour is meh.... I'm kind of jaded about the whole shields vs Armour debate.... Keep in mind that although Amarr in EVE are armor tankers, in Dust they are "balance tankers" if such a thing exists. But anyways it makes equally as much sense to shield tank an Amarr dropsuit as it does to armor tank it. I dunno since armour tanking I just view all shield Infantry as pussies..... |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
256
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:21:00 -
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Carthum Assault Scrambler > Duvolle AR. The Scrambler is worse than the Laser? Are you high?
These are things that are true. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3342
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:23:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Duck Drahko wrote:The next release is not far off, why don't you just take a break until then or fool around with a different role / setup that you wouldn't usually? This is the new, "It's still in BETA!" isn't it? 2 things:
1. As far as most of the reasonable voices on these forums are concerned, CCP's claim to the contrary is incorrect, and the game is still in beta.
2. I hope you get promoted so you can be "Admiral Snackbar" (it's a trap!) |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homos
192
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:23:00 -
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Weren't heavies fixed? Why are you complaining?
-1 sorry OP |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
731
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:23:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Carthum Assault Scrambler > Duvolle AR. The Scrambler is worse than the Laser? Are you high?
These are things that are true. Lasers are amazing guns. Since re picking them up my KDR has been boosted significantly. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
586
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Carthum Assault Scrambler > Duvolle AR. The Scrambler is worse than the Laser? Are you high?
These are things that are true. Lasers are amazing guns. Since re picking them up my KDR has been boosted significantly. Exactly. I wouldn't really say they're better than scrambler rifles, that's like apples and oranges, but they are definitely good weapons. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
79
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:13:00 -
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Yep, grenade, flay, proto spam game. It's blind defenders will miss this game the most. |
TerdY420
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:15:00 -
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Spamming the flavor of the month gets old fast. It's not punishment it's torture. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1320
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:17:00 -
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Oh you poor bastards that decide tanking one specific way is the end all be all Hybrid tanking FTW |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
739
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:29:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Oh you poor bastards that decide tanking one specific way is the end all be all Hybrid tanking FTW
You are talking to a 4m SP toon, even with triple that in terms of SP I would not really spec into dual tanking.....? |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
646
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:32:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Oh you poor bastards that decide tanking one specific way is the end all be all Hybrid tanking FTW I'd agree if I didn't have 5 highs and 2 lows...
CCP just sort of cut and pasted shield and armor tanking from EVE and in the beginning it might have worked but everyone had 1000+ hp so there's not really a comparison. As it stands now they need more balance because hybrid tanking isn't always an option.
But whatever, I run my suit for the sidearm bonus so don't think my shield tanking is because of cowardice. It's my only option. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1320
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Oh you poor bastards that decide tanking one specific way is the end all be all Hybrid tanking FTW You are talking to a 4m SP toon, even with triple that in terms of SP I would not really spec into dual tanking.....?
Ive only got 6m sp and manage to make it work I mean thats the beauty of hybrid tanking, you dont need to max out your shield and armor skills to get close to 700+ ehp |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
764
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:10:00 -
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Quote: I dunno since armour tanking I just view all shield Infantry as pussies.....
IKR? they should be here crying and circle jerking with all the real men instead of out there in the game adapting to explosions
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
743
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:14:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Quote: I dunno since armour tanking I just view all shield Infantry as pussies.....
IKR? they should be here crying and circle jerking with all the real men instead of out there in the game adapting to explosions I think so too! |
Dr Allopathy
EVE Corporation 69084698289
202
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:18:00 -
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If you suck so much then quit already and stop wasting your time. |
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