Mass driver is getting a little ridiculous too in fairness, given that a lot of people have started just throwing explosions everywhere it's f'ing ridiculous. I think CCP are trolling armour hard, especially given the recent discount on advanced contact grenades.

MD needs a tiny damage reduction and maybe one less round in the chamber. The other thing the MD needs above anything is to be lethal to the user. I have been toe to toe with MD users, SMG'ing their face off for them to point blank shoot the floor underneath me (and themselves) for the damage to outright kill me and not even scratch them.

I call bull, I'v been killed by flux grenades many times.

Flux grenades are glitched. I blew up a blaster intillation at full health just by lobbing one at the guy manning it.

I don't see people complaining about being one shot by a shotgun, which if you play enough you know to fear them. I dont see poeple complaining about scrambler rifles charge shot, which again can one shot people. I don't see people complaining that the duvlle assault rifle can now kill you at 90+ meters. I just see a bunch of people complaining about them dying to a weapon that needs to splash you 4 to 6 times minimum just to dent your shields if your shield tanked or have a kill if you are armor tanked.

Please don't get me started on it being a noob tube and not needing any skill. This is shameful coming from assault rifle users, SMG users, HMG users and any other weapon with enough Shots per second to be able to spray and pray, which are most weapons being actively used in the game by percentage. Which if we go by percentage the assault rile still is king and the mass driver is not even second on the list.

So please stop making posts like these. They are shameful and make a big scene about something that is not broken. I am speaking for the mass driver and want nothing to do with the flaylock part of the discussion. May the flaylock user come in and defend their weapon. Me I speak for me And Mine. The mass driver. The weapon that was nerfed to near extinction without so much of a heads up. The weapon that had a thread with thousands of posts without getting a dev response. Stop the nonsense and act like your worth your isk. Change your strategy and HTFU.

Shotguns are a weapon that shoot at 85.7 shots per minute, fastest mass driver is 75. No mass driver has the ability to kill an opponent with splash damage in one shot. If you aren't using the shotgun to get behind your opponent and blap him for full damage which is fairly easy with scout suits, then the weapon is being used incorrectly. Strafing speed of these suits even at militia level is beyond the need to make your opponent miss repeatedly while you use your spread to kill or injure him and GTFO. So no, you don't only have one shot to kill a guy and the strategy is not fubared by one single mistake.

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Sniper rifles are in a little cozy nest and need not worry about most half the things a mass driver user has to worry about. As for the scrambler rifle, he has options. Either use his charge shot or is assault capabilities of rapid fire. The user is the one that chooses in which way to manage his weapon and his overheat prevention strategy.

The second point about the statement above is: Rapid shots on a mass driver? I don't know what mass driver you have been against but mass driver are less than rapid. For those less than willing to actually look up the stats of weapons before raging against any post made to defend the mass driver, I have some numbers for you.

Example

militia assault 750 shots per minute = 10 shots for every 1 shot of the ec-3 assault mass driver (75 shots per minute fastest mass driver and is advanced compared to militia) mass driver damage done = 73 max 93 with damage mods / militia assault rifle damage done without damage mods = 350.

Militia assault rifle vs exo-5 (60 rounds per minute advanced) mass driver = 1 mass driver round per every 12 militia assault rifle rounds. Total damage of the mass driver is 121 max 150 with 1 damage mod and spec / militia assault rifle damage no mods or

As you can see even if half the shots of a militia assaut rifle hits the target they are still hitting for either more or the same damage as advanced tier mass drivers with a damage mod and proficiency.

As for killing him and his buddies, I already posted something about that on my last post.

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In relation to lining up shots; don't talk to me about lining up shots when your spraying. As stated in the above defense, even if only half the bullets on the militia assault rifle ( no mods or spec) hit the target they are still outdoing or matching the damage of an advanced tier mass driver with damage mods and proficiency into it.

And a simple FYI. Mass driver users have to line up shots. Some of them are very tricky in fact if you ever try killing someone thats above you. If someone is far away you have to compensate the arc and lead the target (shoot in front to be able to cause damage) If he is on level ground and going 1 vs 1 we have to take care in cooking our grenades ( no other weapon NEEDS this).

I'll add more. We have to be even more careful with our shots because more times than not we find ourselves without any ammo. Assault rifle users on the other hand have 300 rounds minimum for a total of 10,200 damage in the the gun unspecced and unmodded. The potential damage of a mass driver, focusing on splash, is 2,700 damage (taking into account it being an advanced weapon 1 complex damage mod and level 3 proficiency rounded). Even if we where to only count direct hits, which are rare indeed, would only be 5,303. So I still don't know what all the fuss is about.

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If saying all that made you feel good. I urge you to read the last two sentences of my last post so you understand that you dont have to play this game if you don't like the mechanics and are a worthless shot.

Meh If I can get over it then so can you.... half a week ago I was at that point too.... these guns need no nerf Armour needs its goddamned buff!

That says it all.. Everything you have said is now invalid...

THIS IS NOT CoD.. it requires skill here.. Unlike Crap on Disc.

and the award for worst gamer ever goes to....

Flaylocks are fine the way they are there made to compete with heavys and caldari logis CCP should sto nerfing and start implementing and buffing wepons cause there making it super hard to use half the gun anyone seee a plasma cannon in use with a team of laser rifles with him?

Okay so its me then? I have two flaylock pistols and I switch to them after 3 shots for a total of 6. AND I STILL MISS! Not miss like oh its over his head. I mean miss like I shot the ground next to him and his life is untouched. ALSO. I am NOT the worse gamer ever. That is just bullsht to assume because I have an issue with a game that many ppl have an issue with that I am simply bad. IF anything. I am simply a victim of bad game design.