Let me first start off by saying I am a passionate loyal patriot to Caldari and my bloodline. That's not an excuse, it's an acknowledgement. If you understand those who believe in honor, then you should understand why I felt your words insulted me. And insulted is even a strong word that I wouldn't use to describe it. It seems as if you were perplexed by the complexity of it all, which is ironic considering that most people consider me being so loyal to Caldari because of my bloodline, a complexity in itself.

I didn't rely on insults of your origins until I began feeling my belief was being attacked. Several mercenaries had shared their two ISK on the matter and the sentiment were the same from the opposing argument. There's no honor in the work we do. Yet my answer remained the same, that I do have honor in the work I do. That's is where it all broke down. You cannot convince me nor anyone else to think differently. So as you persisted to prod my beliefs, I increasingly grew tired of it.

I have grown to experience many harsh realities. Harsh realities and often comments of utter disdain for being a Caldari and for having my bloodline. Disdain for our methods. Our beliefs. Our will. Just look and listen. Hear them speak softly with whispers with words that wishes death upon the Caldari.

I understand what you're trying to do but that's where our communication breaks down. I am true to my Caldari way. I am stern and stubborn. Nothing you can say or do change my beliefs until I, myself, come to the epiphany.

I am more than open to set aside these differences and come to the a conclusion that we feel differently.

That's what keeps me linked to my origins, my honor. It twas the way of my parents. I do that in honor of them and my origin.

Hm. Such a code of honor probably would have originated with your parents' religious sect (please forgive me if I presume too much--there's just not much of a martial tradition independent of both the monasteries and the Caldari left on Achura).

If so, I can only hope that the spirits guide your path.

Perhaps I was a fool for trying to convince you otherwise to begin with, I apologize. As I said, my intentions were not to insult your honor or your faith, it is near impossible to move a tree with its roots dug deep into the ground, I realize that now.

Far too often I see the people here stubbornly arguing how what they believe in is the best possible belief, Gallente, Caldari, Amarr and Minmatar alike. I am not saying that your faith is flawed or incorrect, what I have been trying to do here is to make others realize that their faith and ideals aren't the be all end all of everything and the only way, everything has it's merits, and it's flaws when compared to other faiths and ideals.

I believe that there are many paths leading to the top of the mountain, not just one. Some might be longer, some shorter. Some might be easier, some harder. What path you choose does not matter in my opinion, but that you complete your journey to the top and not stray off the path.

But I digress, the only thing we're probably going to agree here is that we disagree, and I'll leave it at that before I cause further enrage. Prataya yavati, sarumin Arck.

Take no offense to these words but realize the truth, you wish to detach people from their faiths/beliefs yet wanting those to respect your belief as the absolute.

What gives you the right? It is unfair to the person that you impose this upon. Think on that. Think of the Amarr who enslaved the Minmatar. Ask the Amarr, and they will tell you it was the will of God, the reclaiming. To bring light into darkness. Ask the Minmatar of the reasoning and they would say control, to use their people as workers and soldiers of their empire.

So in closing, I harbor no ill will.

Take no offense to these words but realize the truth, you wish to detach people from their faiths/beliefs yet wanting those to respect your belief as the absolute.

What gives you the right? It is unfair to the person that you impose this upon. Think on that. Think of the Amarr who enslaved the Minmatar. Ask the Amarr, and they will tell you it was the will of God, the reclaiming. To bring light into darkness. Ask the Minmatar of the reasoning and they would say control, to use their people as workers and soldiers of their empire.

So in closing, I harbor no ill will.

It matters not what is fair only what is just and true in the eyes of God.

When I envisioned this thread, I didn't envision mercenaries looking to speak utter disdain for those who have faith and/or honor.

Honor is a self chosen path. Even the most ruthless follow a code.

Ad yet, when you speak, you seem to imply that those of us who fight for money don't have a code. We do. Fight for the one that pays the most. And never turn your back on your comrades, as long as they are your comrades. It's not the most... noble of pursuits, perhaps, but when we fight for you, you don't seem to mind that fact.

I'll be on the field soon...

I seem to imply? What are you talking about? This thread is a toast to my kirjuun. I am not concerned about your beliefs or your way, I only applauded my own kind. It is I that fell under scrutiny. Only my brethren understood what I was conveying. Why? Because this thread is for my brethren. What you speak is utter nonsense. I do not stand for such false accusations.

I was merely stating that your sense of self-righteousness makes you SEEM to imply it, not that you DID imply it, my friend. YOur tone was... confusing, and therefore, while I do not apologize for my words, I will apologize for the accusation.

Self righteousness has nothing to do with me expressing my beliefs and showing pride in the State I represent. In fact, its self righteous of you to come into this thread that salutes the fellow comrade of the State and spew your negativity by expressing disdain for what I follow. And when its not acknowledged, when the Caldari doesn't submit to you, it is called "self righteous".

Of course my tone is confusing to those who don't live in the way I do. But my fellow kirjuun understands...