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Deadeyes Anterie
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:29:00 -
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Anuliadon Gortusk wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Gods Architect wrote:doesn't change the fact that he betrayed his men and corp. We think alike. This tells me you think with logic. I like that... So as a logical thinker which you claim you are. Then you would know how corporations work (just so happens we have corporations in dust...crazy i know) as the world is run by business which is logical thinking. So think to a big law firm or a big corporation, when a managing partner leaves he is entitled to his severance package which is often a lump sum of money plus cashing in stock, what Kujo took would be considered his severance package. So to bring this full circle Kujo as a director is entitled to his slice of the pie upon leaving just like any owner is when they decide to leave a company. Logical thinking is great. But regardless saying Kujo betrayed his "men", for the most part the true pc "core" of hellstorm left with him and if anybody were kujo's "men" it was them. Betraying his corp hardly, the corp had betrayed several members and Kujo decided to take a stand and say enough is enough. So yes this may hurt people's feelings but the decision is indeed very logical and the corp betrayed its own member which resulted in kujo taking action.
As someone who recently liberated a Corp wallet much greater than yours I split up 95% of it among the members who earned it. It's easy to think well I got into the position to take it all so I should make the calls for how it is spent, or I deserve the ISK. Some people were upset of course any time you distribute ISK people are going to be angry about how you decide to do it, but keeping over a billion ISK of Hellstorm's members ISK to fund your own side venture is a ****** move in my opinion. While my loyalty is not the strongest, my sense of justice is pretty high. It was a very unjust move and I suspect it will be met with the karma it deserves. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Gravity Prone EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:46:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:To clear up your confusion: DJINN Punisher always preached about, "I rather have the corp ISK into our PC players hand so they can be using proto gear." Well seeing how myself the guys that decided to come with me were the main reason for obtaining such an amount of ISK. I felt it was necessary to pull some ISK from the wallet, so that those players could obtain that ISK.
- To clarify to EoN. which I know Punisher approached you saying, "Kujo stole all the ISK, we don't have money for war." DJINN Phoenix has an alt account, don't recall the name. But it has 2 Billion ISK sitting on the side as a note of 'savings', and he's not the only one. DJINN Punisher has an alt named DJINN Stygal that has 700 million ISK AT LEAST on it. But of course I took all the money... lol. There is actually another alt account that has 1 billion on it as well. But won't give up that name for their sake seeing how he's a close friend of mine. But all in all, what I took was about 1/4 of what Hellstorm really has. - - So there you have it. I wouldn't expect anything less from Punisher but to try to pin the person who did the majority of the work for Hellstorm and the alliance. - - - As far as the war with EoN. - I had attacked Intrepidus not knowing they were in EoN., instantly got a message from ChicagoCubs saying "You know there in EoN. right?" Well seeing how at this point, I think both parties were twiddling their thumbs and trying to find a reason to battle each other. I jumped into our alliance chat, had a quick chat with fellow alliance leaders about it, they said they were ready. - - - - But of course now that I leave for 3 days, and by Punisher changing up what I had in place for PC battles, they start losing, players get mad, lot's of hate go back and forth. Even hate directed towards me from individuals within Hellstorm. I felt betrayed at this point, thus making me leave what Hellstorms' turmoil is experiencing. - - - - - But for you trolls out there: how valid is it, when you say "Kujo left cause EoN. was whooping LOI the days he was absent.?" Note: the same Kujo who streamed on Twitch for 8 hours on Saturday after beating TeamPlayers 3 games in a row, and going back and forth on wins/losses with the rest of EoN. throughout the day? So go ahead keep convincing yourself that you know the situation, you might infatuate yourself with it.
A satisfying answer for a confused yet interested outside party. Thanks for taking the time. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Gravity Prone EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:50:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:To clear up your confusion: DJINN Punisher always preached about, "I rather have the corp ISK into our PC players hand so they can be using proto gear." Well seeing how myself the guys that decided to come with me were the main reason for obtaining such an amount of ISK. I felt it was necessary to pull some ISK from the wallet, so that those players could obtain that ISK.
- To clarify to EoN. which I know Punisher approached you saying, "Kujo stole all the ISK, we don't have money for war." DJINN Phoenix has an alt account, don't recall the name. But it has 2 Billion ISK sitting on the side as a note of 'savings', and he's not the only one. DJINN Punisher has an alt named DJINN Stygal that has 700 million ISK AT LEAST on it. But of course I took all the money... lol. There is actually another alt account that has 1 billion on it as well. But won't give up that name for their sake seeing how he's a close friend of mine. But all in all, what I took was about 1/4 of what Hellstorm really has. - - So there you have it. I wouldn't expect anything less from Punisher but to try to pin the person who did the majority of the work for Hellstorm and the alliance. t. It doesnt matter how you put it you still took ISK that wasnt yours to take.
Really depends, if there is say a quarter of hellstorm defecting to follow Kujo I would say it's fair, not quite as fair as handing out the ISK to the players themselves, but close enough that I don't think it's really a **** move if the players are behind him.
Faced with an alternative of Punisher stockpiling the ISK on alts I think he would have been more than justified to do what he did assuming it wasn't just in his own interest.
After Kujo went on vacation LoI went 4-21 in battles against EoN, and I heard from A team LoI players they were being kicked by the leadership for disagreements. At some point you are forced to make the call, not everyone agrees but I can relate very well to your situation, and I made the same call you did Kujo, although for different reasons. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Gravity Prone EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:27:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:Max Tankitus wrote:Sha and Kujo spotted in squad tonight appear to not be playing but perhaps in a meeting about a future alliance?News at 11 And no, we were squaded to enjoy some games, we actually played in all the games. There is no future alliance. I don't plan on putting the new corp (which the name will change in a few days anyways) into any alliance. And for TeamPlayers: you attacked all 3 districts tonight, shows me your scared of what this corp will become seeing how you can't easily claim victories when i am in charge, so grab what you can for now. Just know, we will be coming for you when you least expect it, but won't be a problem seeing how it seems TeamPlayers fields the same people proving to no life the game. The war with EoN. and LOI may be over, but I believe myself and EoN. still have some business to attend to. And rightfully we should, I feel privileged to be the guest of honor. Head hunt me all you want, your only proving yourselves to be scared, as noted above, to what the new corporation will become. So keep wearing your mask of pride and I leave it at this, It's hard to tell who has your back, from who has it long enough just to stab you in it.... Kujo - Logic Bombing since 2013!
Free word of advice, don't antagonize Teamplayers when you are trying to break back into PC.
If you want to make sure PC is as painful as possible, I would continue saying they are afraid of you haha. |
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