ok so how would you make a sniper's job harder without making them useless? a constant sway? bullet drop and bullet travel? what would that last one mean? do less damage while the bullet travels?

Dude,

Don't even joke about that. There is a ****-load of skill in sniping.

When was the last time you killed a running target at 400m? If you can, it's not luck. You have to lead them - travel time is in the game.

For running targets, if you hit them once, strip their armour, and do it again to kill them, it's not luck.

Good snipers can do it fairly often.

I don't think of myself as an awesome sniper but I can usually hit running targets a dozen times per game (sometimes more). Not all are kills but some are, the rest are assists because my CQC colleagues finish them off.

People just don't stand around smoking and chatting in militia gear like n00bs anymore.


Munch

Why would I think it's hard?

It is hard.

I lead my targets and it works.

If there is no travel time then what I'm noticing might be lag. But it has the same effect as travel time and I see it in every game on every map.

I have to lead my targets.


Munch

I feel like I need to quote myself, there are a lot of people putting forward absolute rubbish arguments



This is not about OHKs, this is about achieving a reasonable level of damage to make sniping all classes of players *plausible*. Currently it is not plausible to even bother with the upper echelon of players as they are much more effort than they are worth. 4-5 shots with the best non officer sniper in the game? You have got to be joking. If you think this is balanced you need to re-evaluate your concept of balance.

To all of those people talking about bullet travel time and the ability to "see across the entire map". Maybe it would be a good idea to actually play the class before chiming in with your "omg-i-got-sniped-plz-nerf" opinions, because if you had you would know a couple of things:

1) The render range is limited to around 400-450m, which is about HALF the size of any map (sometimes less), and a full 200m less than our weapon ranges.

2) Depending on the match, there can be and often is a significant amount of latency and/or input lag. This is essentially the same as adding in bullet travel time. The reason I say this is that the bullet velocity is 2500 m/s (stated in the description). With an average kill distance (for arguments sake) of 300m, this means that there would be an average travel time of 0.12 (1/8) seconds. This is negligible, and I would argue that we currently deal with a delay of more than this on a regular basis.

Admittedly, there are more pressing issues to be addressed in the game currently, so this is by no means a demand for an immediate fix, but if you think that this class isn't currently underpowered, you're kidding yourself.