Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up.

If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking

I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.

Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.

See? That wasn't hard...

Now back to the question of stats.

The graphics are pretty good considering the lack of time spent with the engine. And forgot to add that the game is F2P, most of those 'features' that you 'removed' are there because of the upfront charge.

Also, most FPS games don't that the player counts of the big AAA titles.

They obviously got records, that's how they balance stuff, CCP uses statistics.

You can see your lifetime SP, current SP, Lifetime ISK, current ISK and K/D.

If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking

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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

In Halo 2 I could go back and see each game's stats. (I pick Halo 2 b/c it's almost 10 years old). How many did I kill in EACH GAME, what weapons I used, what maps I played on, medals, etc...

It's stats like THAT I'd like to see. I realize these statistics probably exist in a log somewhere on CCPs servers. I really do. I also am well aware of what generic stats are available in my profile, OK? I get all of that. My question is where are the stats I could get in a game 10 years ago? I'm not sure how to focus this question anymore. What am I not communicating here?

Sticking the tracker that Mordu's chucklefest is using to somewhere players can see it was deemed too much work to implement.

The official advice from CCP is "use pen and paper".

Technology!

I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.

Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.

See? That wasn't hard...

Now back to the question of stats.

Did your mommy not nurse you enough as a baby?

Maybe I should be playing people with pen and paper too...

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pew pew! This is fun.

I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.

Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.

See? That wasn't hard...

Now back to the question of stats.

The Free to Play excuse is getting a bit old now.....just saying.

1. Player control... player control... haven't heard that one in a while.
2. There's this thing called the settings.
3. The graphics haven't been an issue since Uprising
4. It's called an MMOFPS, not MMORPG. There's no campaign in EVE, yet no one complains about that.
5. You're sure not helping. Whining about every little thing isn't recruiting players or making this game appealing to newbies.
6. Dust maps big, other FPS maps small.
7. Why am I replying to someone with no legitimate argument and who has to exaggerate to support himself?
8. So you want to see Dust with less features?
9. If everything you say is true, then I guess it gives you pretty good reason to quit Dust. Goodbye.

In spite of claims by CCP to the contrary, DUST is still in beta, and still a LONG way short of being ready for release.

Also, there are leaderboards in DUST that you can look up. And there's actually MORE information in those leaderboards than Brink (not the best example, but it's still exactly what you said doesn't exist)

Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!

Thanks!

Finally you're saying stuffs mint chip...

Finally we're getting somewhere...

It's not just about events though. Fundamentally, it's a draw to the game. When people can quantify how they are doing they'll become more engaged. Think about it in terms of sports. The first field sport was created when one person stepped onto a field and said "I'm better than you and I can prove it". That can't happen if nobody knows how good they are.

Suite, though, mintchipLOL. Any eta? (p.s. thanks for the response)

I have absolutely no ETA on that at all. I should have a better idea of an eta in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to keep you updated on it as it progresses!

Event-wise, this feature feels /almost/ essential.

I have absolutely no ETA on that at all. I should have a better idea of an eta in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to keep you updated on it as it progresses!

Event-wise, this feature feels /almost/ essential.

Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!

Thanks!

Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!

Thanks!

Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!

Thanks!

Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS

Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!

Thanks!

do you really need players to tell you this basic stuff?

srsly

you leaving out basic stuff...

Well, not always! What's great is we notice this stuff, but what helps us move it along is when there's a lot of the playerbase noticing as well. Then it's easier to argue that it's important :)

So essentially you guys make my job easier by agreeing with me!

I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.

Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.

See? That wasn't hard...

Now back to the question of stats.

The Free to Play excuse is getting a bit old now.....just saying.

Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up.

If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking

I must say from what i heard about you mintchip and saw on youtube

i was not looking forwards to having you as a mod on the forums (or working as pr on the team) - assuming thats your job

Well, not always! What's great is we notice this stuff, but what helps us move it along is when there's a lot of the playerbase noticing as well. Then it's easier to argue that it's important :)

So essentially you guys make my job easier by agreeing with me!