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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:13:00 -
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So I'm doing this Mordu's Challenge and I noticed I can't log in to the web to see any game stats. There aren't any stats to speak of at all, really. What gives? Is this just DUST 514 being a "different" kind of FPS by omitting yet another feature every other FPS for the last 10 years has had, or is this an oversight?
Anyone? |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
129
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:19:00 -
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Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up.
If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
67
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:23:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up. If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.
Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Bam, you have DUST.
See? That wasn't hard...
Now back to the question of stats. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1556
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:27:00 -
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They obviously got records, that's how they balance stuff, CCP uses statistics.
You can see your lifetime SP, current SP, Lifetime ISK, current ISK and K/D. |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
49
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:27:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:A B Ablabab wrote:Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up. If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs. Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST. See? That wasn't hard... Now back to the question of stats. The graphics are pretty good considering the lack of time spent with the engine. And forgot to add that the game is F2P, most of those 'features' that you 'removed' are there because of the upfront charge.
Also, most FPS games don't that the player counts of the big AAA titles.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1295
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:35:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:A B Ablabab wrote:Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up. If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs. Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST. See? That wasn't hard... Now back to the question of stats. The graphics are pretty good considering the lack of time spent with the engine. And forgot to add that the game is F2P, most of those 'features' that you 'removed' are there because of the upfront charge. Also, most FPS games don't that the player counts of the big AAA titles.
The Free to Play excuse is getting a bit old now.....just saying. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
69
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:36:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They obviously got records, that's how they balance stuff, CCP uses statistics.
You can see your lifetime SP, current SP, Lifetime ISK, current ISK and K/D. ...*
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.
In Halo 2 I could go back and see each game's stats. (I pick Halo 2 b/c it's almost 10 years old). How many did I kill in EACH GAME, what weapons I used, what maps I played on, medals, etc...
It's stats like THAT I'd like to see. I realize these statistics probably exist in a log somewhere on CCPs servers. I really do. I also am well aware of what generic stats are available in my profile, OK? I get all of that. My question is where are the stats I could get in a game 10 years ago? I'm not sure how to focus this question anymore. What am I not communicating here? |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
224
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:42:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking
Stat tracking is in, we just can't see it. They keep statistics on EVERYTHING. What suits you wear, what guns you use, how many kills you get with each gun, how many assists, how often you use nanohives, how often your team mates use your nanohives, how many people have you resurrected, how many cars you've called in, how many people you've run over and so on. Litterally every facet of gameplay is tracked.
They just haven't found a good way to provide us with that information yet. |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
129
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:45:00 -
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We don't have a stats display for the same reason we don't have amazing graphics of billions of maps, or more gametypes, or.. any new feature. The game isn't finished.
People have been asking for stats displays for ages. They've also been asking for new maps, new weapons, new vehciles; as well as perfect balance and playability. CCP are working to get the features in. But they're not here yet... It's just that simple. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3333
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:06:00 -
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In spite of claims by CCP to the contrary, DUST is still in beta, and still a LONG way short of being ready for release.
Also, there are leaderboards in DUST that you can look up. And there's actually MORE information in those leaderboards than Brink (not the best example, but it's still exactly what you said doesn't exist) |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
373
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:15:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They obviously got records, that's how they balance stuff, CCP uses statistics.
You can see your lifetime SP, current SP, Lifetime ISK, current ISK and K/D. ...* I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. In Halo 2 I could go back and see each game's stats. (I pick Halo 2 b/c it's almost 10 years old). How many did I kill in EACH GAME, what weapons I used, what maps I played on, medals, etc... It's stats like THAT I'd like to see. I realize these statistics probably exist in a log somewhere on CCPs servers. I really do. I also am well aware of what generic stats are available in my profile, OK? I get all of that. My question is where are the stats I could get in a game 10 years ago? I'm not sure how to focus this question anymore. What am I not communicating here? Sticking the tracker that Mordu's chucklefest is using to somewhere players can see it was deemed too much work to implement.
The official advice from CCP is "use pen and paper".
Technology! |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:23:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote: Sticking the tracker that Mordu's chucklefest is using to somewhere players can see it was deemed too much work to implement.
The official advice from CCP is "use pen and paper".
Technology!
Maybe I should be playing people with pen and paper too...
GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë GÇëi-|---r-¿-¿GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë-¿ -¿ -¿/|\,- _/\_GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë _/\_
pew pew! This is fun. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1254
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:24:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.
Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.
See? That wasn't hard...
Now back to the question of stats.
Did your mommy not nurse you enough as a baby? |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:26:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs.
Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST.
See? That wasn't hard...
Now back to the question of stats. Did your mommy not nurse you enough as a baby? Damn dude, I think you are on to me. This game has problems because I wasn't nursed.
Good call. |
Eklipsch
Crimson Ravens
3
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:29:00 -
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I gave up counting after 20 ///// ///// ///// ///// slashes of the the pen. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1255
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:39:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:Maybe I should be playing people with pen and paper too... GÇë GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë GÇëi-|---r-¿-¿GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë-¿ -¿ -¿/|\,- _/\_GÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇëGÇë _/\_ pew pew! This is fun.
Whoa, nice shot... you pwned him! |
Croned
C0NTRA UNIT
340
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:25:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:A B Ablabab wrote:Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up. If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs. Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST. See? That wasn't hard... Now back to the question of stats. 1. Player control... player control... haven't heard that one in a while. 2. There's this thing called the settings. 3. The graphics haven't been an issue since Uprising 4. It's called an MMOFPS, not MMORPG. There's no campaign in EVE, yet no one complains about that. 5. You're sure not helping. Whining about every little thing isn't recruiting players or making this game appealing to newbies. 6. Dust maps big, other FPS maps small. 7. Why am I replying to someone with no legitimate argument and who has to exaggerate to support himself? 8. So you want to see Dust with less features? 9. If everything you say is true, then I guess it gives you pretty good reason to quit Dust. Goodbye. |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
50
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:29:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Vin Mora wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:A B Ablabab wrote:Dust is completely incomparable to other FPS, and other F2P. And before I get shouted at you can say it should be all you like, but it's not. CCP are doing to Dust what they did to EVE. They're starting slow and ramping up. If that will end in success or not.. time will tell. In the meantime, the game is feature incomplete. This includes stats tracking I think it's easy to compare to other FPSs. Imagine a good FPS. Take away player control, make vehicle control terrible, lower the graphics, take away the campaign, lower average player count, delete most of the maps, and roll it back to 1999. Add micro-transactions. Bam, you have DUST. See? That wasn't hard... Now back to the question of stats. The graphics are pretty good considering the lack of time spent with the engine. And forgot to add that the game is F2P, most of those 'features' that you 'removed' are there because of the upfront charge. Also, most FPS games don't that the player counts of the big AAA titles. The Free to Play excuse is getting a bit old now.....just saying. Except its not an excuse, its the reason that certain things in this game are missing.
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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:50:00 -
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Croned wrote: 1. Player control... player control... haven't heard that one in a while. 2. There's this thing called the settings. 3. The graphics haven't been an issue since Uprising 4. It's called an MMOFPS, not MMORPG. There's no campaign in EVE, yet no one complains about that. 5. You're sure not helping. Whining about every little thing isn't recruiting players or making this game appealing to newbies. 6. Dust maps big, other FPS maps small. 7. Why am I replying to someone with no legitimate argument and who has to exaggerate to support himself? 8. So you want to see Dust with less features? 9. If everything you say is true, then I guess it gives you pretty good reason to quit Dust. Goodbye.
Wow 9 answers to questions never asked and not a word about the stats. That's awesome. I didn't start this thread to rant about the problems with the game... I started it to find out where the stats were and I'm still watching it to find out when I can get those stats or where CCP is at on stats... if anyone knows.
So just to be crystal clear (I know it's been a confusing run...) THIS THREAD IS ABOUT STATS
I want to know about them.
Now I will feed you, troll: 1) Hmmm. OK. I, in turn, haven't heard about the band ABBA in a while. 2) Indeed there is. I can't find the physics sliders. Help? 3) By 'not an issue' I assume you mean they aren't on the "to do" list. Good to know. 4) EvE is a fascinating and feature filled game. It looks great. I could go on and on about it. 5) I'm not getting paid either. I'm spending money (WAS. Suspending RL $$ support for a while). I'm the customer. 6) Other FPS maps balanced, fun, look good, play well, are greater in #... but yah DUST has big maps. 7) ...but did you reply? See the section on game statistics. I didn't exaggerate I assure you. They aren't there. 8) I can't find the place I said that. Help? Short answer is: No. I would like to see more features. Like stats. 9) Uh... hmmm. I guess "yes" but I'm waiting to see if it's going to get better. I may take a break for a year though.
Walk safe o7 |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
90
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:44:00 -
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Because: Reasons? |
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Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
300
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:47:00 -
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Stats are cool of course. But it's no big deal to me that they don't have it. When I play Dust, I play Dust. I don't think of how it stacks against Battlefield and what they do. Or Halo and what they do. There are other things they can work on before they get around to that stat sheet. |
Noc Tempre
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2165
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Posted - 2013.07.17 04:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:In spite of claims by CCP to the contrary, DUST is still in beta, and still a LONG way short of being ready for release.
Also, there are leaderboards in DUST that you can look up. And there's actually MORE information in those leaderboards than Brink (not the best example, but it's still exactly what you said doesn't exist)
I'd call it more of an alpha than a beta. Beta implies feature complete but buggy. |
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
672
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:03:00 -
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Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
105
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:04:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks! Finally you're saying stuffs mint chip... |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
300
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:24:00 -
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Portable Neocom app or a way to chat with corporation outside of the game. |
Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:24:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks! Finally you're saying stuffs mint chip... Finally we're getting somewhere...
It's not just about events though. Fundamentally, it's a draw to the game. When people can quantify how they are doing they'll become more engaged. Think about it in terms of sports. The first field sport was created when one person stepped onto a field and said "I'm better than you and I can prove it". That can't happen if nobody knows how good they are.
Suite, though, mintchipLOL. Any eta? (p.s. thanks for the response) |
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CCP Mintchip
C C P C C P Alliance
682
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:30:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks! Finally you're saying stuffs mint chip... Finally we're getting somewhere... It's not just about events though. Fundamentally, it's a draw to the game. When people can quantify how they are doing they'll become more engaged. Think about it in terms of sports. The first field sport was created when one person stepped onto a field and said "I'm better than you and I can prove it". That can't happen if nobody knows how good they are. Suite, though, mintchipLOL. Any eta? (p.s. thanks for the response)
I have absolutely no ETA on that at all. I should have a better idea of an eta in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to keep you updated on it as it progresses!
Event-wise, this feature feels /almost/ essential. CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep |
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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
92
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:39:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote: I have absolutely no ETA on that at all. I should have a better idea of an eta in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to keep you updated on it as it progresses!
Event-wise, this feature feels /almost/ essential.
Wow. Outstanding! Agreed & thanks! |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
2070
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:36:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:hackerzilla wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks! Finally you're saying stuffs mint chip... Finally we're getting somewhere... It's not just about events though. Fundamentally, it's a draw to the game. When people can quantify how they are doing they'll become more engaged. Think about it in terms of sports. The first field sport was created when one person stepped onto a field and said "I'm better than you and I can prove it". That can't happen if nobody knows how good they are. Suite, though, mintchipLOL. Any eta? (p.s. thanks for the response) I have absolutely no ETA on that at all. I should have a better idea of an eta in the coming week or so, and I'll be sure to keep you updated on it as it progresses! Event-wise, this feature feels /almost/ essential.
Status on kill mails/battle reports..? |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
273
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Posted - 2013.07.17 06:44:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Hey! Yeah, no kidding right? Well this is obviously a feature we'd like to have implemented for future events, absolutely! We are also looking into getting stats for events like this on the website so you'd be able to check both inside and outside of the game. Definitely noted and working it's way to you, the players!
Thanks!
Hopefully it's not just for events. It should be 24/7. I would especially like to see stats of hacks. I couldn't very well keep up recording my hacks on paper for the Mordu's challenge while being fired at, haha. |
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