DUST Search - Proto pub stomping nubs

WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:

Badgerr Rager wrote:

WhiskeyJack Otako wrote:

Love going into pub matches solo wearing proto and coming out on top of the squads on my side and hopefully winning the match.

Why? Because 20 million SP says I can.

Sure I could have a lot more isk, but I don't really need it. Having 500 million isn't practically better than maintaining the 250 I havenow, so what's the point in slumming with lesser gear? I'm not losing isk in the long run.

Besides people try so hard to kill the proto - it just makes me better in the long run.

If you believe it makes you better than so be it Smile

but a better challenge for you (some will agree) will be to kill and be on top with not using your money and gear to get you there. I find the thrill in killing all you proto's with sometimes a bit of difficulty but usually not much while using my basic to advance gear. Its more of a challenge and makes us all better.

Clarification: it's not the proto gear that makes me better, iTs the try hards coming after me that make me better. I do about the same in free suits tbh. That wasn't a claim to greatness :)

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Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:08:00 - [1] - Quote Why must corps go in public games using proto gear and TRY to pub stomp ? lol. I mean if your corporation is good you shouldn't need to use proto gear. You could be pub stomping with basic gear. That would be more impressing, but hey, if you guys wanna come and fight to lose proto gear and isk be my guess. Ill be here waiting
Razor Signal Wraith Company 41	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:09:00 - [2] - Quote Was it..Fukai? I'm not sure on the spelling.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1161	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:10:00 - [3] - Quote Badgerr Rager wrote: Why must corps go in public games using proto gear and TRY to pub stomp ? lol. I mean if your corporation is good you shouldn't need to use proto gear. You could be pub stomping with basic gear. That would be more impressing, but hey, if you guys wanna come and fight to lose proto gear and isk be my guess. Ill be here waiting Not interested in impressing others - interested in enjoying themsevles (the whoe purpose of playing any game by the way)
French Fancy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 8	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:10:00 - [4] - Quote Badgerr Rager wrote: Why must corps go in public games using proto gear and TRY to pub stomp ? lol. I mean if your corporation is good you shouldn't need to use proto gear. You could be pub stomping with basic gear. That would be more impressing, but hey, if you guys wanna come and fight to lose proto gear and isk be my guess. Ill be here waiting When you get people like seraphims just running around with proto flaylock just change into a cheap suit and do what you can, PC is buggy so in a sense I don't blame them, it's not their fault it's the ****** matchmaking we have to endure, just use cheap stuff, if you kill a proto think about how much cheaper your 4k setup is :P
ugg reset Molon Labe. League of Infamy 315	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:11:00 - [5] - Quote because it's fun as hell, because we can but most importantly because YOU can't.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 587	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:11:00 - [6] - Quote I use what I have I don't care what you bring, nor do I want you to bring anything less then your best. it was the same when I had militia gear, and it's the same now.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 939	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:16:00 - [7] - Quote If I have the money and unlocked skills to use proto gear... why would I intentionally gimp myself by running standard gear? That's like asking a runner why he doesn't strap a 50 lb backpack on first before he competes in a race... "Cause THAT would be impressive"...
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 819	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:21:00 - [8] - Quote Because it's fun? Because, unless you want to go into PC, there is nowhere to use your proto gear? Or maybe, just maybe, they're so good that they can run proto in pub games and still make isk.
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 138	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:23:00 - [9] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: If I have the money and unlocked skills to use proto gear... why would I intentionally gimp myself by running standard gear? Basically. I don't even find pub stomping fun, but artificially making the game hard on myself doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Especially when its likely that you'll run into a protosuit on the opposing team amidst the mlt and std players. It's really a match making problem, not a player problem.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 940	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:28:00 - [10] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's fun? Because, unless you want to go into PC, there is nowhere to use your proto gear? Or maybe, just maybe, they're so good that they can run proto in pub games and still make isk. its not fun to me.. I would rather run the best gear I can. I run all proto all the time... I only have 1 adv suit fitting and its usually only used to afk in case I somehow die in the MCC. I still make money week to week.

Alina Heart DIOS EX. Top Men. 388	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:28:00 - [11] - Quote Fit Name: "Antipubstomp" Dropsuit: Militia Amarr Medium Frame Shields: 300 Armor: 180 2x Core Flaylock Pistols Remote Explosives Locus Grenades/Flux Grenades Have fun
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:29:00 - [12] - Quote Obviously its fun to do, but its even better when you can kill a **** load of them using just basic and advance gear making money instead of burning through ISK. You guys are getting all defensive ! haha which in my opinion is sad, I was just simply asking why just use proto when you could switch it up and make more money and have the same enjoyment
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:29:00 - [13] - Quote Alina Heart wrote: Fit Name: "Antipubstomp" Dropsuit: Militia Amarr Medium Frame Shields: 300 Armor: 180 2x Core Flaylock Pistols Remote Explosives Locus Grenades/Flux Grenades Have fun lol, I like the sounds of that one
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:31:00 - [14] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's fun? Because, unless you want to go into PC, there is nowhere to use your proto gear? Or maybe, just maybe, they're so good that they can run proto in pub games and still make isk. its not fun to me.. I would rather run the best gear I can. I run all proto all the time... I only have 1 adv suit fitting and its usually only used to afk in case I somehow die in the MCC. I still make money week to week. Yea well as long as you make money thats good, I just hope I dont make you lose too much money .. I understand why people use them. Just mostly asking why ALL the time. But I guess everyone has fun doing their own stuff and how they want
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:33:00 - [15] - Quote Razor Signal wrote: Was it..Fukai? I'm not sure on the spelling. haha I dont think they buy anything but proto stuff :P I believe they are a pretty good corp. I play against them a lot in pubs, I dont mind them because they are fun to go against. They might win, but I make them lose money for sure
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:35:00 - [16] - Quote French Fancy wrote: Badgerr Rager wrote: Why must corps go in public games using proto gear and TRY to pub stomp ? lol. I mean if your corporation is good you shouldn't need to use proto gear. You could be pub stomping with basic gear. That would be more impressing, but hey, if you guys wanna come and fight to lose proto gear and isk be my guess. Ill be here waiting When you get people like seraphims just running around with proto flaylock just change into a cheap suit and do what you can, PC is buggy so in a sense I don't blame them, it's not their fault it's the ****** matchmaking we have to endure, just use cheap stuff, if you kill a proto think about how much cheaper your 4k setup is :P haha all my suits are cheap, thats why I get a lot of enjoyment killing them with just my basic gear
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1294	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:35:00 - [17] - Quote I guess it makes them feel big and important... you know what they say about men with big flashy cars right ? Obviously the have some insecurity complex, so they have to "overcompensate".
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 176	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:36:00 - [18] - Quote It may sometimes take me 10 deaths to kill 1 full proto(at worst), but I will get you eventually with my knives. I also run cheap suits so I still win ISK wise neener neener neener....
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:37:00 - [19] - Quote ugg reset wrote: because it's fun as hell, because we can but most importantly because YOU can't. Oh I can, but..... you wouldn't want that when I get back from the store, lets squad up and see.. Keep an eye in the alliance chat
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:37:00 - [20] - Quote BARDAS wrote: It may sometimes take me 10 deaths to kill 1 full proto(at worst), but I will get you eventually with my knives. I also run cheap suits so I still win ISK wise neener neener neener.... haha thats what Im talking about

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 671	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:38:00 - [21] - Quote Razor Signal wrote: Was it..Fukai? I'm not sure on the spelling. Do you mean Fubuki 15?
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 111	Posted - 2013.07.16 17:49:00 - [22] - Quote Most Protogear owners make money in pro suits... I use adv gear because whenever I field adv gear I feel more confident about risky manouvers like flanking and generally enjoyable stuff like shooting people in the back. And soloing a protobear in an advance suit is a boost to your confidence
Duck Drahko DUST University Ivy League 17	Posted - 2013.07.16 18:17:00 - [23] - Quote So what's wrong with changing your gear, when you figure out that your enemies have nothing to compete with you? When the best guy on the opposing team goes 30-something/8 with a proto flaylock setup (as part of a proto-squad, you know who you are), you can't tell me that he's making a profit, nor that it was necessary to have a good game. I'm new to the world of MMOFPSs, and I understand that the rules are different here. But from the games I used to play, this is what I am used to: * Strong players do not play on free-for-all servers, because it's like stealing lollipops from children. And that's not even involving "virtual skill". * If they do play on FFAs, then they do artificially handicap themselves, take it easy, or at least switch up the teams occasionally. * Nobody, ever, would go with an entire SQUAD of strong players to an FFA with the purpose of stomping over newbies. My impression is, that the biggest problem with matchmaking right now, is that casual solo-players and competitive corporations are all thrown into one pot. PC is the only thing you can do outside of instant battles, and that's just not always an option as I understand it. I don't understand why we can't play in self-organised league matches or at least organise practice matches against other corporations. That would give the elite something to do that's more constructive than stomping over randoms. Of course another problem is that you have to take it to FFAs for the grind. Perhaps that is the biggest problem, and perhaps it can't even be solved other than by making PC more prevalent. IMO, the endgame should be such that corporations always face other corporations, never randoms. So I understand if you feel that you have no other choice than to proto stomp, but you can still alleviate the issue with honourable behaviour and by advocating for any changes that would be necessary for you to change your ways. It is of course your choice in the end, as much as it is my choice whether to respect you for it or not. And because that sounded entirely too serious, I will end this post with a zebra hanging from a tree.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 580	Posted - 2013.07.16 18:57:00 - [24] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's fun? Because, unless you want to go into PC, there is nowhere to use your proto gear? Or maybe, just maybe, they're so good that they can run proto in pub games and still make isk. its not fun to me.. I would rather run the best gear I can. I run all proto all the time... I only have 1 adv suit fitting and its usually only used to afk in case I somehow die in the MCC. I still make money week to week. Wow not only do you admit to being a proto pubstomping scrub but also an afker wow I wish we had more peiple in thus game just like you.
WhiskeyJack Otako The Southern Legion rise of legion 94	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:51:00 - [25] - Quote Love going into pub matches solo wearing proto and coming out on top of the squads on my side and hopefully winning the match. Why? Because 20 million SP says I can. Sure I could have a lot more isk, but I don't really need it. Having 500 million isn't practically better than maintaining the 250 I havenow, so what's the point in slumming with lesser gear? I'm not losing isk in the long run. Besides people try so hard to kill the proto - it just makes me better in the long run.
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 13	Posted - 2013.07.16 20:01:00 - [26] - Quote WhiskeyJack Otako wrote: Love going into pub matches solo wearing proto and coming out on top of the squads on my side and hopefully winning the match. Why? Because 20 million SP says I can. Sure I could have a lot more isk, but I don't really need it. Having 500 million isn't practically better than maintaining the 250 I havenow, so what's the point in slumming with lesser gear? I'm not losing isk in the long run. Besides people try so hard to kill the proto - it just makes me better in the long run. If you believe it makes you better than so be it but a better challenge for you (some will agree) will be to kill and be on top with not using your money and gear to get you there. I find the thrill in killing all you proto's with sometimes a bit of difficulty but usually not much while using my basic to advance gear. Its more of a challenge and makes us all better.
WhiskeyJack Otako The Southern Legion rise of legion 94	Posted - 2013.07.16 20:06:00 - [27] - Quote Badgerr Rager wrote: WhiskeyJack Otako wrote: Love going into pub matches solo wearing proto and coming out on top of the squads on my side and hopefully winning the match. Why? Because 20 million SP says I can. Sure I could have a lot more isk, but I don't really need it. Having 500 million isn't practically better than maintaining the 250 I havenow, so what's the point in slumming with lesser gear? I'm not losing isk in the long run. Besides people try so hard to kill the proto - it just makes me better in the long run. If you believe it makes you better than so be it but a better challenge for you (some will agree) will be to kill and be on top with not using your money and gear to get you there. I find the thrill in killing all you proto's with sometimes a bit of difficulty but usually not much while using my basic to advance gear. Its more of a challenge and makes us all better. Clarification: it's not the proto gear that makes me better, iTs the try hards coming after me that make me better. I do about the same in free suits tbh. That wasn't a claim to greatness :)
Badgerr Rager Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 13	Posted - 2013.07.16 20:11:00 - [28] - Quote WhiskeyJack Otako wrote: Badgerr Rager wrote: WhiskeyJack Otako wrote: Love going into pub matches solo wearing proto and coming out on top of the squads on my side and hopefully winning the match. Why? Because 20 million SP says I can. Sure I could have a lot more isk, but I don't really need it. Having 500 million isn't practically better than maintaining the 250 I havenow, so what's the point in slumming with lesser gear? I'm not losing isk in the long run. Besides people try so hard to kill the proto - it just makes me better in the long run. If you believe it makes you better than so be it but a better challenge for you (some will agree) will be to kill and be on top with not using your money and gear to get you there. I find the thrill in killing all you proto's with sometimes a bit of difficulty but usually not much while using my basic to advance gear. Its more of a challenge and makes us all better. Clarification: it's not the proto gear that makes me better, iTs the try hards coming after me that make me better. I do about the same in free suits tbh. That wasn't a claim to greatness :) We all can have some claim to greatness yes as it may make you better but with proto gear up against 2-3 basic suits would be a piece of cake. 2-3 advance yes, some difficulty but either way, you should be coming out ontop regardless. No ? Like I said earlier, I don't have a problem with people doing it. Just asking whyy. Thank you for replying
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 416	Posted - 2013.07.16 20:35:00 - [29] - Quote Badgerr Rager wrote: Why must corps go in public games using proto gear and TRY to pub stomp ? lol. I mean if your corporation is good you shouldn't need to use proto gear. You could be pub stomping with basic gear. That would be more impressing, but hey, if you guys wanna come and fight to lose proto gear and isk be my guess. Ill be here waiting Cuz ... protos on other team too. Cuz ... kill faster = faster payout. Cuz ... game design says I can and should. Cuz ... feels like it.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 72	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:12:00 - [30] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because it's fun? Because, unless you want to go into PC, there is nowhere to use your proto gear? Or maybe, just maybe, they're so good that they can run proto in pub games and still make isk. That's a difficult one, especially with the current state of the game, i.e., flaylock pistols, LAV's, and fused locusts grenades, but impressive nonetheless.

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 104	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:14:00 - [31] - Quote bring in the fused locus grenades
KingBlade82 The Phoenix Federation 91	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:16:00 - [32] - Quote I run a 3k isk suit all the time if they run proto I throw a flux and it will show how good u r ;)
Dale Templar Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 253	Posted - 2013.07.17 00:36:00 - [33] - Quote KingBlade82 wrote: I run a 3k isk suit all the time if they run proto I throw a flux and it will show how good u r ;) I dual-tank fyi. Why do I run Proto in pubs? I worked for it, I don't care about losing it, it's not really that expensive, 100k-ish a setup, plus whatever AUR I have thrown in, that's what, 3 deaths a match and still coming out even? Pffft, nothing, Prototype means nothing to me, if there was a higher, more expensive level of suit, I'd use that too. Although when I see Officer weapons in pubs I will sacrifice countless proto's just to kill that person once, I'm looking at you Thale users.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 755	Posted - 2013.07.17 00:39:00 - [34] - Quote I run nothing but proto in pub matches, why? I have the ISK, and it makes my deaths more meaningful (although the amount of ways to die almost instantly, even in proto gear, is astounding). EDIT: BTW, I had ~90 million ISK last week, last night I had about 105 million ISK. So why would I want to use lower-end suits when I have no problems making ISK running proto all the time? Yes I go negative somewhat often, but I still either average out to no overall loss, or I gain.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 401	Posted - 2013.07.17 01:07:00 - [35] - Quote It's funny how noobs put prototype gear on a ten story tall pedestal like it's the end all be all that somehow makes anyone using a God. It's really not that much better in most cases, A proto dropsuit fitted with all militia modules will be less effective than an ADV with Advanced to complex module's. To answer the question....Because I have 13mill SP And 150mill ISK.... Sooo **** it, why not?
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 238	Posted - 2013.07.17 01:19:00 - [36] - Quote Just take out your LAV when you face squads of top corps. It's awesome when you get to run over their precious proto suits. Watch out because they always have adv and even proto AV (like wyrkomi swarm launchers lol). -XOXO


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