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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:58:00 -
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i know how you feel, we're all still stuck in our quarters, FW and instant battles are pretty much the same thing over and over for us. You can't get into PC unless you got a corp with a big wallet, but even then PC is just an expensive version of skirmish. |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:18:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm still interested to see what their new hire from Dice will add into the mix, particularly when you consider that one of the games on his resume is Battlefield 2142, a game that Dust would benefit greatly from integrating more concepts from.
Anyone else want to be able to board and capture the enemy MCC in PC instead of just blowing it up? Damn right, I have been mentioning this for a while. It may be what turns this game around. Ha we can hope.
Well there is some hope with these monthly updates |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:31:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:This thread needs to stay at the top until it gets some dev responses. Great job, Jack. You hit the right notes on every level.
CCP, if you can deliver on the promises you've made over the years, this will be a game that I'll be proud to say I supported. But until that glorious day of fulfillment comes, you'll need to do everything in your power to reassure us, the dedicated players, that you have not lost sight of the dream that was, and is, Dust 514.
Indeed he did, CCP might consider this a bump but I don't care cuz you're right this thread should stay on top |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:39:00 -
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although I can blame myself for thinking the game was gonna look and feel as awesome as the trailers were I can't blame myself or anyone else that got excited watching that gameplay footage that's posted at the beginning of this thread. It really looks like you can have so much more fun in that version of Dust than how much fun you can have in the current version. Anyone else think so? |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:25:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:-1 for reminding me of those videos. Now I'm sad...
God, I remember seeing that video when it first came out, I was so damn excited for THAT game. Then as we got closer, more epic trailers like the 'EVE Forever' and 'Mercenary' videos came out and we all got giddy.
Then the closed beta came out, and I think everyone who got in had a moment of "...wuuuuhh?"
I enjoy DUST, i bought a PS3 just to play it, but...I seriously miss THAT game. CCP put so much work into it, only to realize the PS3 couldn't handle the game engine, so everything had to be remade for Unreal, and with Sony demanding a release, we got a partially-finished game.
The dev's put on a brave face, but I think this whole thing has worn on them too. I doubt they're happy about the whole situation either.
Still, I have faith in CCP, and hope for the game.
And if a dev reads this...why don't you just use the player model from the trailers as the Caldari scout suit? You already made it, and it looks great. I don't think they like where they're at right now either, given everything they said they wanted to have by this point even at FanFest last year. I'm betting they're making that new model because using the old ones wouldn't really fit with the design direction they have now, or something to that effect. Honestly, I prefer the concept art they've shown for the Caldari Light better anyway.
they don't like where they're at? This whole time I thought this was where they planned to be at right now and the only reason they've decided to do monthly updates is because the community was tired of CCP's BS |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 20:33:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:-1 for reminding me of those videos. Now I'm sad...
God, I remember seeing that video when it first came out, I was so damn excited for THAT game. Then as we got closer, more epic trailers like the 'EVE Forever' and 'Mercenary' videos came out and we all got giddy.
Then the closed beta came out, and I think everyone who got in had a moment of "...wuuuuhh?"
I enjoy DUST, i bought a PS3 just to play it, but...I seriously miss THAT game. CCP put so much work into it, only to realize the PS3 couldn't handle the game engine, so everything had to be remade for Unreal, and with Sony demanding a release, we got a partially-finished game.
The dev's put on a brave face, but I think this whole thing has worn on them too. I doubt they're happy about the whole situation either.
Still, I have faith in CCP, and hope for the game.
And if a dev reads this...why don't you just use the player model from the trailers as the Caldari scout suit? You already made it, and it looks great. I don't think they like where they're at right now either, given everything they said they wanted to have by this point even at FanFest last year. I'm betting they're making that new model because using the old ones wouldn't really fit with the design direction they have now, or something to that effect. Honestly, I prefer the concept art they've shown for the Caldari Light better anyway. they don't like where they're at? This whole time I thought this was where they planned to be at right now and the only reason they've decided to do monthly updates is because the community was tired of CCP's BS The guys who are leading the team right now are the same guys that showed off all that cool stuff for the stage demos in past FanFests, and who seemed legitimately psyched about being able to offer all of that. Do you really think they're happy with how things are now? I can tell you from experience that there's a difference between providing an appearance of acceptance and solidarity out of necessity for marketing purposes, and what someone really thinks.
honestly yes, by the lack of content and unfulfilled promises I really feel like they don't give a s*** and they think that everyone will come back to the game eventually. people have come back but looking at the future competition (MMO/FPS games on the PS4)things aren't looking good for CCP |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 01:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote: I want it to be a serious tactical MMO where teamwork is valued above personal gun skill. There is a lot of work that needs to go into this, but otherwise, it has improved on this point since chromosome. I think it's important to strike a balance. We are, of course, talking about being super-soldiers that are faster, stronger, and overall better than normal humans.
It feels like that balance is going to take most of the time CCP has and they won't be able to get to work on new content much |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 03:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote: I want it to be a serious tactical MMO where teamwork is valued above personal gun skill. There is a lot of work that needs to go into this, but otherwise, it has improved on this point since chromosome. I think it's important to strike a balance. We are, of course, talking about being super-soldiers that are faster, stronger, and overall better than normal humans. It feels like that balance is going to take most of the time CCP has and they won't be able to get to work on new content much I don't really mind how the balance is handled now, we just need work on aiming accuracy, which is tied up in framerate, so fixing one fixes both. I actually like the unintentional buff to sprinting, as it makes the game feel more like Quake or UT like it did in Replication, which I find to be a lot of fun. I'd honestly love to see an across the board speed buff to get us moving faster before we get larger maps or even the full 5x5km.
Well we need transportation for those huge maps, Dropships will be much more useful then |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 05:09:00 -
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Well there's a few weeks left here so we'll see what's in 1.3 and maybe then we can see if these monthly updates are really going to save Dust |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:41:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Jackof All-Trades wrote:The trailers I supplied had superior ideas and features but inferior gunplay, graphics and implementation of classical FPS elements to which we have today. DUST 514 is a good game as it stands, with balancing always needing to be done, but it has always aspired to be the 'thinking man's FPS'. Skirmish 1.0 is the game mode in where you flew an MCC to dock at the enemy command post to allow a complete system hack of the district, and thereby bring it under your control. This method allowed controllable MCC's, able to be owned and able to be fitted without making tanking overpowered as it would if it were to be implemented in the current Skirmish. The idea of installations as being nothing more than a module of the MCC is something that allows intricate tactics when it comes to starving an MCC of power and information, and ultimately giving the opposite team the upper hand. It is gameplay like this that will catapult DUST 514 to the highest point in gameplay, and it is this game that I seek to find through this thread. I think that's why most of us were psyched to hear about an upcoming Skirmish 3.0 that takes many of the design elements of 1.0 into account. I, for instance, love the idea of allowing an MCC to be fitted just like any other vehicle, with the caveat mentioned in the DevBlog of needing enough power to let it run all its equipment. With the full 5x5 km maps made available, you could have multiple power stations on the map that could be hacked to transmit power to the MCC, as can be seen occuring in some of the concept art that has been released. CCP said at FanFest a few months ago that their yearly theme for this year was "Focus". As far as it appears to me right now, I don't think that focus is on the right goals. Dust can have perfect "mechanics" and unique features like deep vehicle and suit customization, but it will always be "just another shooter" unless you guys capitalize on the biggest trump card you seem to want to keep hidden under your deck: EVE. We all came into this looking to be mercenaries hired my starship-piloting PC players who would build and sell all the gear we needed on the largest player-driven market in the industry, roaming the stars in massive War Barges that carry all our gear and deploy our MCCs, while also providing support drops of turrets, supply depots, and CRUs. We came into this looking to be able to stake our own claims on planets, and not just have a square on the map interface, but a massive chunk of land that we could build on the way we wanted, and that we could defend with the use of powerful cannons that could bring those PC guys in EVE to their knees with one shot. Concepts like that are what had all those industry guys you used to do so many interviews with psyched about this game, because those are the things that had never been done before, and would make Dust 514 completely unique among shooters. I'm saying your focus is misplaced because no matter what is done on the Dust we have now to make it "competitive" will leave it as another sci-fi shooter in an ocean of them. When you guys first showed off Dust, and for a year or so afterward, that Dust logo always had "EVE" in it, and that's what your focus needs to be on, because that's what all of us are here for. We're here for an MMOFPS that doesn't try to be it's own universe, but actually delivers on what you said you wanted it to be: a brand new window into the already vibrant universe you've spent 10 years building with us. I'm all for the concept of "Focus", but I think it's time to get back to "Deliver".
Yes, we've been patient since closed beta and many more since open beta and it's still a lobby shooter. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:+1
Needs dev response.
There has been so much discussion about how DUST is so unfinished and so much confusion as to why it was released with so many missing pieces. The foundation is there for a truly great game. I just hope the pace of getting it there will be fast enough to reward current players more and attract more new players. As long as the core player base remains healthy and active the game will continue to grow and over time will mature and come into its own. Then it will be like a fine wine and and PS3/4 owners will stop by for a sip and be amazed. The same pattern of growth that worked for EVE can work for DUST. It just needs to stay alive and healthy for a little while.
I'll tell you what. The changes to PC open that part of the game up so the fun might just be starting with that. Basically PC was in open beta until that update. Yeah, it still needs work, but that was an excellent update to it. If nothing else, most of the posts in this thread should show that a lot of us that don't even respond to each other's posts sometimes, and even get in arguments in each other's threads at other times can all get together and agree on wanting Dust to be what it seems like you guys wanted it to be when you first showed it to us.
Why did they make it officially released so early anyways? |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 12:57:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:da GAND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:+1
Needs dev response.
There has been so much discussion about how DUST is so unfinished and so much confusion as to why it was released with so many missing pieces. The foundation is there for a truly great game. I just hope the pace of getting it there will be fast enough to reward current players more and attract more new players. As long as the core player base remains healthy and active the game will continue to grow and over time will mature and come into its own. Then it will be like a fine wine and and PS3/4 owners will stop by for a sip and be amazed. The same pattern of growth that worked for EVE can work for DUST. It just needs to stay alive and healthy for a little while.
I'll tell you what. The changes to PC open that part of the game up so the fun might just be starting with that. Basically PC was in open beta until that update. Yeah, it still needs work, but that was an excellent update to it. If nothing else, most of the posts in this thread should show that a lot of us that don't even respond to each other's posts sometimes, and even get in arguments in each other's threads at other times can all get together and agree on wanting Dust to be what it seems like you guys wanted it to be when you first showed it to us. Why did they make it officially released so early anyways? That's the $64,000 question. My theory is that they were getting pushed by the impending release of next gen consoles and wanted the game to grow its player base before everyone focused on the PS4 games. Probably also other reasons having to do with what men in suits who care only about money wanted.
I see what you mean but CCP should've been moving nearly as fast as they are now along time ago
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:03:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94919&find=unread
This is how we all sort of feel right now , or at least most of us since closed beta |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:03:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Did you guys all sign up for your Dust 514 fanboi cards???
If anyone seriously thinks this is a good game the I feel sorry for you as your gaming experience must be pathetically small.
it seems like anyone can be considered a fanboy these days |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 02:55:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:Jaqen Morghalis wrote:da GAND wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:Did you guys all sign up for your Dust 514 fanboi cards???
If anyone seriously thinks this is a good game the I feel sorry for you as your gaming experience must be pathetically small. it seems like anyone can be considered a fanboy these days I'm a fanboy ...of boobs... ...and cake. But the cake's a lie O.O Have to say I'm disappointed this hasn't gotten a dev responseGǪ
they're way too busy trying to fix this mess that they're in
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:27:00 -
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TunRa wrote:This...expresses my hopes for Dust.
same, the stuff from the 2011 E3 Dust trailer was something I hoped we would have by now |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:27:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Well, after yet another match of LAV + Flaylock spam by stacked proto teams amid various game bugs and other assorted fail I realised I can't play more than 2 matches in a row without quitting out in rage and wishing explosive diarrhea on the whole dev team. I even tried afking in the MCC for slackass-SP gain and even this made me angry.
Time for a long, long ragecation from this toilet of a game. I really really really tried to like Dust and my OCD pushed me far past my usual BS tolerance levels but enough is enough. I think this game has even managed to poison my enjoyment of EVE.
I'll look in on 1.3 to see if its some sort of cosmic miracle that fixes the 20 greatest issues of the game. With common sense suggesting this is unlikely I think I'll say goodbye for 6 months and check back to see if CCP have developed a clue.
I took a break for about a week, if your'e tired of the game it's best to take a long break. Maybe not 6 months but maybe a few months |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 17:03:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Well, after yet another match of LAV + Flaylock spam by stacked proto teams amid various game bugs and other assorted fail I realised I can't play more than 2 matches in a row without quitting out in rage and wishing explosive diarrhea on the whole dev team. I even tried afking in the MCC for slackass-SP gain and even this made me angry.
Time for a long, long ragecation from this toilet of a game. I really really really tried to like Dust and my OCD pushed me far past my usual BS tolerance levels but enough is enough. I think this game has even managed to poison my enjoyment of EVE.
I'll look in on 1.3 to see if its some sort of cosmic miracle that fixes the 20 greatest issues of the game. With common sense suggesting this is unlikely I think I'll say goodbye for 6 months and check back to see if CCP have developed a clue. I took a break for about a week, if your'e tired of the game it's best to take a long break. Maybe not 6 months but maybe a few months That's actually the position I'm in due to not currently having a PS3 available. I've only been able to play the game when I visit a friend of mine, but those play sessions usually last no less than 6 hours, so I've been getting a good idea as to the mechanics of each patch.
oh cool, I wouldn't expect a whole lot from the next patch. CCP already has so much to fix, so much to balance and so much content to deliver that's past due |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:32:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Well, after yet another match of LAV + Flaylock spam by stacked proto teams amid various game bugs and other assorted fail I realised I can't play more than 2 matches in a row without quitting out in rage and wishing explosive diarrhea on the whole dev team. I even tried afking in the MCC for slackass-SP gain and even this made me angry.
Time for a long, long ragecation from this toilet of a game. I really really really tried to like Dust and my OCD pushed me far past my usual BS tolerance levels but enough is enough. I think this game has even managed to poison my enjoyment of EVE.
I'll look in on 1.3 to see if its some sort of cosmic miracle that fixes the 20 greatest issues of the game. With common sense suggesting this is unlikely I think I'll say goodbye for 6 months and check back to see if CCP have developed a clue. I took a break for about a week, if your'e tired of the game it's best to take a long break. Maybe not 6 months but maybe a few months That's actually the position I'm in due to not currently having a PS3 available. I've only been able to play the game when I visit a friend of mine, but those play sessions usually last no less than 6 hours, so I've been getting a good idea as to the mechanics of each patch. oh cool, I wouldn't expect a whole lot from the next patch. CCP already has so much to fix, so much to balance and so much content to deliver that's past due Well, they said before 1.2 that these patches are mainly going to consist of what fixes they have ready for deployment by the time the patch rolls around, but they still put in some new assets, and there was that thread last night with completed 3D renders of the Combat Rifle, Magsec SMG, and Bolt Pistol, so I wouldn't say it's outside the realm of possibility that we might be seeing those weapons soon. To be clear, that gallery also had renders of most of the other weapons we have in-game.
sorry but I really don't have much confidence in CCP since uprising, but could u provide a link to that thread? |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:41:00 -
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any links to that gallery? |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:06:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:After seeing these videos crop back up over the last few days I want to ask.
How many of you would run out to buy a PS4 if CCP said they could bring something similar to that by the middle of next year?
Earlier this year many were talking about staying with PS3 and not buying new consoles for like 2-3 years or more but honestly, we will not see anything like that on PS3. If Uprising didnt get us there I dont think it is possible.
I want to know if the die hard of us left will by a PS4 even if they arent a big console fan and just got a PS3 mostly or solely for Dust.
Background: I had a PS3 mostly for PES / MGS and Blu Ray and now only play it for Dust.
I don't know about everyone else but I won't be getting the ps4 at release or maybe even a year after that. I'll stick with PC games, that's what I did when the ps3 and xbox 360 came out. I only bought my ps3 two years ago. |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 04:54:00 -
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Looks alright, I think I've seen a pic of the Minmitar AR before just like that one. |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:35:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:da GAND wrote:Looks alright, I think I've seen a pic of the Minmitar AR before just like that one. Yeah, there was earlier concept art of this both at FanFest and other designer galleries.
ah that would explain why it looks familiar, probably wont get that Minmatar Combat rifle anytime soon |
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:49:00 -
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I didn't see that in the trailer, I only saw the commando suit in it, but i'll take a look at it again |
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:07:00 -
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alright i might take a look at that again later |
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