DUST Search - Best STD Medium Basic Frame?

Marston VC wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability.

I would recommend the STD Basic Heavy frame. This suit will give you maximum tanking power for a low investment. It gives you the closest thing to prototype health for other suits, only you get a kick ass gun (which unfortunately you'll need to spec into as well...... but oh well) and the feeling of being a badass when you take one three people and win because they just cant kill you fast enough.

My HMG suit costs about 20k and ive got almost 1000 HP. I went 33 and 5 with it today and while in that scenario I do lose 100k, I make 250k back, netting me a 150k profit. This isn't as efficient as using a cheaper Militia suit, or some other thing that costs 2k per suit, but its definitely the most "fun" isk efficient suit I play with. so take that for what it is.....

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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 229	Posted - 2013.07.15 21:50:00 - [1] - Quote As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 416	Posted - 2013.07.15 21:53:00 - [2] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability. A caldari BPO if you like assault style. A sever or dren logi suit if you want to farm WP with militia rep, injector, uplinks ... ISK version of any will work tbh if your goal is farming. an exile bpo will save significant isk as well. I dislike amarr due to lack of low slots. ott... w/e.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 175	Posted - 2013.07.15 21:54:00 - [3] - Quote Militia Suits are plenty survivable if you don't have a lot of SP's sunk into your character. The only thing the more advanced suit is going to do for you is let you fit better modules. If you have good skills for armor or shields then yes do STD if only basic or militia I would just stick with a militia suit imo.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK rise of legion 612	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability. Your money is going to be on the Caldari. Gallente is a no-go for the moment because Flaylocks are obviously in vogue and do a lot of damage to armor. Amarr is similarly poorly endowed, and the Amarr suit's lack of speed is a large detriment when you're in a low level suit. Caldari is almost certainly your best bet unless you're going to try something weird with a shotgun/flaylock on the Minmatar. Not only do shields mildly counter the flaylocks, but the additional speed you get in a Caldari suit is even more important at low levels than it is at high level. In a standard suit your only saving grace is going to be your reaction time and your ability to run away from bad altercations fast. Help, I've been flaylocked and I can't get up! That's why I wear one.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Top Men. 685	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:04:00 - [5] - Quote Quote: Best STD Space Herpes from the movie "Ice Pirates"
Poonmunch Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 95	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:06:00 - [6] - Quote Most can be cured by antibiotics, so you don't need to know what the best one is. Munch P.S. Sorry, you walked in to that one.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 229	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:09:00 - [7] - Quote I play a Heavy so I'm not too well versed in the other frames. However, in terms of modules, I have shields, armor, and damage modifiers up to complex and armor rep at enhanced. Everything else is not skilled into. I have not skilled into equipment, but drop up links seem tempting to farm a little extra WP. As for weapons, ill probably sink a little SP into a standard AR for the 60 round clip and I have Scrambler Pistols and Grenades up to proto. With what I have available, what cheap fittings could I focus and which frame would be optimal? The Amarr has very good PG/CPU, but the Caldari seems more balanced with the extra low slot. I don't plan on armor tanking, but the Gallente may be useful against Flux spam, but after looking at the Minmi's 3 high slots, it makes me wonder if I should strap it down with complex shields. Decisions...
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 359	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:21:00 - [8] - Quote Well... if ISK's the concern rather than SP then specialised suits actually cost less than basic. So following up that line of thought I'd think about Minmatar Assault. You're a Scrambler Pistol user and with 2 ranks in Min Assault magazine capacity should go up to 12... hopefully. There's also the possibility that it'll go with +10% of 6 rather than +10% of 11 and then round down. Depends whether Scrambler Operation is factored before or after the modification and how it rounds. Clarification on this score would be greatly appreciated.
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 92	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:22:00 - [9] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I play a Heavy so I'm not too well versed in the other frames. However, in terms of modules, I have shields, armor, and damage modifiers up to complex and armor rep at enhanced. Everything else is not skilled into. M-1 x2 shield x1 dmg mod
Scheneighnay McBob Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 2370	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:24:00 - [10] - Quote Minmatar. Built in rep, and higher speed. Nuff said

Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 359	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:35:00 - [11] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar. Built in rep, and higher speed. Nuff said The usefulness of integrated repair can't be understated. Mitigates whittling without using up a low slot or fitting, means everything can go into speed. That on top of being the fastest just seals the deal for me.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 360	Posted - 2013.07.15 22:46:00 - [12] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar. Built in rep, and higher speed. Nuff said The usefulness of integrated repair can't be understated. Mitigates whittling without using up a low slot or fitting, means everything can go into speed. That on top of being the fastest just seals the deal for me. minmatar is certainly a beast if you want shields and like those duct tape loving peoples. their assult suits are sidearm monsters (scrambler rifle SMG being a beastly combo, also mass driver/anything, they are super quick and that built in repper frees up a low slot while maintaining your ability to wait out the reps to return to full fighting strength. i may be biased however...
Sir Spanks Alot Bragian Order Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.07.15 23:25:00 - [13] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability. The STD brought me here I'd say the one that comes with some lube
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 229	Posted - 2013.07.16 02:27:00 - [14] - Quote It seems Minmitar and Caldari are the favored choices. Thus far, I've unlocked STD Amarr and Caldari suits. However, I may throw out another 25k SP for the Minmi. The PG and CPU of the Amarr really helps with fitting my modules whilst having enough for a drop up link. On the other hand, The Caldari suit can net me slightly more shields and armor, totaling to about 700 HP, but I will have to forego any equipment. With the Minmi's high slots, I could probably fit 2 complex shields and 1 enhanced, but the low slot may have to be used for a CPU or PG upgrade. I guess I'll experiment a bit more.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 579	Posted - 2013.07.16 02:37:00 - [15] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability. I would recommend the STD Basic Heavy frame. This suit will give you maximum tanking power for a low investment. It gives you the closest thing to prototype health for other suits, only you get a kick ass gun (which unfortunately you'll need to spec into as well...... but oh well) and the feeling of being a badass when you take one three people and win because they just cant kill you fast enough. My HMG suit costs about 20k and ive got almost 1000 HP. I went 33 and 5 with it today and while in that scenario I do lose 100k, I make 250k back, netting me a 150k profit. This isn't as efficient as using a cheaper Militia suit, or some other thing that costs 2k per suit, but its definitely the most "fun" isk efficient suit I play with. so take that for what it is.....
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 229	Posted - 2013.07.16 02:51:00 - [16] - Quote Marston VC wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: As the title states, what STD basic medium frame is best? I just need some insight because I plan to strictly farm ISK for the next month on a cheap fitting. I'd go with the free militia suits, but I want a little more survivability. I would recommend the STD Basic Heavy frame. This suit will give you maximum tanking power for a low investment. It gives you the closest thing to prototype health for other suits, only you get a kick ass gun (which unfortunately you'll need to spec into as well...... but oh well) and the feeling of being a badass when you take one three people and win because they just cant kill you fast enough. My HMG suit costs about 20k and ive got almost 1000 HP. I went 33 and 5 with it today and while in that scenario I do lose 100k, I make 250k back, netting me a 150k profit. This isn't as efficient as using a cheaper Militia suit, or some other thing that costs 2k per suit, but its definitely the most "fun" isk efficient suit I play with. so take that for what it is..... Umm... I'm specced into proto heavy already. I have some SP I've been saving for the new racial variants, but I'm a bit tired of the turtle gameplay. I wanted to try something different and running cheap STD fittings seems to be my best shot at acquiring ISK for profit. As is, I am down to my last 30 mil and medium frames will give me an opportunity to try out different play styles. I guess another factor is that my first serious game running an Assault militia suit netted me nearly 300k ISK, 18 kills, and 20 odd something assists. The only problem was that I died too many times in the process. If I am able to replicate what I had done with the militia fit whilst having fewer deaths, then I think this minor investment into STD medium frames will be well worth my time.


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