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HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:02:00 -
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I played 12 games from a brand new character
847,980 total sp
11,081 total war points.
156 kills
18 deaths
I have a basic heavy suit with an advanced HMG
Level 2 core shield and armor. Nothing else.
1st game out of academy
Full squad of competitive team all proto.
Wow do I feel sorry for the noobs coming into this game.
We need to help the new kids by extending the time in the academy triple the war points or whatever the conditions are. Give them a fighting chance when they come out.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1296
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:04:00 -
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You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you. |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:06:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you.
Does anyone know their average SP when they graduate? I think its based on wp not sure though. They really need 2-3 mil SP before they are released in my opnion. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1296
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:08:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you. Does anyone know their average SP when they graduate? I think its based on wp not sure though. They really need 2-3 mil SP before they are released in my opnion.
Yeah, 2.3mil was enough to get my alt to an ADV Logi suit, and ADV weapon with enough left to throw into core skills.
2mil is also enough to get a decent HAV too if thats what they decide they want to do. |
Vulcanus Lightbringer
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:09:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you.
Still, the time new characters spend in the Academy should be extended, as it is now the transition between Academy and Instant is terrible.
Edit: Why not have have two-tier system? Basic Academy > Advanced Academy > Instant Battle
Basic is MIL/STD only, Advanced is MIL/STD/ADV and once you hit Instant anything goes. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
146
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:11:00 -
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Right now the best way a newb can take advantage of academy is to AFK... which is really sad.
Should be based off SP (say 2 mil) not WP. |
RevoItZ
Red Star.
EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:12:00 -
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They do need to increase the amount of WP needed to graduate, I also think all noobs/starts should earn around 3x SP until they reach around 5 million SP points(Maybe more)
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HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:12:00 -
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Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you. Still, the time new characters spend in the Academy should be extended, as it is now the transition between Academy and Instant is terrible.
I also believe that having to stay in their longer many of them will meet, share ideas, squad up, and start playing slightly more advanced players.
Or they need to have intermediate academy for the next level. |
Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
94
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:12:00 -
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They should add more tiers to the academy. Not just one.
Maybe tiers of 1 to 2 million each?
Munch |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:14:00 -
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RevoItZ wrote:They do need to increase the amount of WP needed to graduate, I also think all noobs/starts should earn around 3x SP until they reach around 5 million SP points(Maybe more)
This is a good idea too, give them 500,000 SP for graduating the academy have a nice fireworks screen for your accomplishment with a huge warning of your about to get your A$$ handed to you welcome to new Eden banner, |
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
146
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:17:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:RevoItZ wrote:They do need to increase the amount of WP needed to graduate, I also think all noobs/starts should earn around 3x SP until they reach around 5 million SP points(Maybe more)
This is a good idea too, give them 500,000 SP for graduating the academy have a nice fireworks screen for your accomplishment with a huge warning of your about to get your A$$ handed to you welcome to new Eden banner,
While both of these are great ideas these will really put a dent into the Booster business... no way CCP implements them. Staying in the Academy longer with no increase seems to be the best for both sides.
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Vulcanus Lightbringer
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:19:00 -
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What about a (voluntary) respec at the end of the Academy, or is that too much maybe? |
HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:22:00 -
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Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:What about a (voluntary) respec at the end of the Academy, or is that too much maybe?
Yes not a bad idea either the poor noons who didn't know how to spec and wasted skill points are at an even bigger discrepancy instill think they need a minimum of 2 mil sp |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
748
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:25:00 -
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Definitely agree they need more time there, also no-squad options for every mode would also help tremendously for when they come out, as they won't have to deal with stacked squads of proto. Hell, even I don't want to deal with stacked squads of proto, and I have mostly proto gear (it makes a night and day difference if there is stacking). |
Lonki Sturmer
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:53:00 -
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IGÇÖve created a character yesterday, after 5 hours was kicked from the academy.
I didnGÇÖt spend a single isk or skill points, right now I have ~2.7 mil isk and ~580k SP.
Mainly did hacks, rezzing people and killing vehicles with turrets.
It was a BIG mistake!!! Since I was doing good things towards team play and victory I scored 800-1300 WP each battle.
I have noidea what should I do now, since I can`t kill anyone, got slaughtered by older players with a single shot.
Should i start new character and do AFK to leech SP/isk???!!! |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD
Shadow of the Apocalypse
11
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:25:00 -
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If not 3xtend academy
Why not integrate the newbs into public stomps
After week x
Mix up pubs with academy
Get their feet wet
Then new eden it all ya like |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3350
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:56:00 -
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I think I read that it's 2 mil SP or 10,000 WP. |
TuFar Gon
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:15:00 -
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Dont forget that the most of them dont even know where/how to spend their sp. Core/passive upgrades, etc. . Most vets dont want to teach,,but should,,consider them your "students" think about it vets,take someone under your wing and have ultimate bragging rights when said student is killin EVERY1 lol |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:25:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Vulcanus Lightbringer wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:You're experienced, newbs wont get out as quick as you. Still, the time new characters spend in the Academy should be extended, as it is now the transition between Academy and Instant is terrible. I also believe that having to stay in their longer many of them will meet, share ideas, squad up, and start playing slightly more advanced players. Or they need to have intermediate academy for the next level.
Would love to see them in academy long enough to form their own corps. Would help break the blue donut trend. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
289
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:30:00 -
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Isn't rookie help a default channel in EVE? We need a Newberry channel defaulted since most new guys aren't going to know how to get to the help channels everyone has created in the first place. |
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