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SnakeSix
Pradox One
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:25:00 -
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And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots. |
Nyusto Clegli
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:26:00 -
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I'm loving my minmatar Logi at proto level 4H/4L/4E nice rounded out and fits my play style |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1806
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:27:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots. with everyone crying about cal logis, I don't think it would be safe to skill into them. CCP's nerfing abilities aren't the greatest. They may just make the suit useless. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1854
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:28:00 -
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Minnie logi |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:28:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:SnakeSix wrote:And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots. with everyone crying about cal logis, I don't think it would be safe to skill into them. CCP's nerfing abilities aren't the greatest. They may just make the suit useless.
Yeah didnt plan on going Caldari, hate the FOTM in any game. Expecting a blow from nerf hammer to CalLogi and Flaylocks. Deciding between Gallente/Winmitar. |
Nyusto Clegli
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:28:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Minnie logi +1 my brother in arms! |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1615
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:28:00 -
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I run minmatar logi myself, but that tool fitting bonus on gallante logi looks pretty nice sometimes. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:29:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Minnie logi
Can someone break down pros/cons? I know Gallente has more equipment, but what about the Minmitar? What makes it stand out? |
Nyusto Clegli
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:32:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Minnie logi Can someone break down pros/cons? I know Gallente has more equipment, but what about the Minmitar? What makes it stand out?
I think it is balanced without being higher anywhere else and no real negatives |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1857
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:36:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Minnie logi Can someone break down pros/cons? I know Gallente has more equipment, but what about the Minmitar? What makes it stand out?
Minmatar logi is balanced all around, 4 equip, 4 high, and 4 low. Lowest base EHP, but highest base speed, plus a hacking speed bonus as a racial bonus. Just a good all-arounder if you don't like to specialize in armor or shields. |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
359
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:38:00 -
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bonuses you can focus heavily on shields and still have great armor.
you can fill your lows with hack/speed/insert LOL settup here and still have great shields.
you get 4 equipments
you hack REALLY quick if you skill into it |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:40:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:bonuses you can focus heavily on shields and still have great armor.
you can fill your lows with hack/speed/insert LOL settup here and still have great shields.
you get 4 equipments
you hack REALLY quick if you skill into it
Talkin bout minnie right? |
Nyusto Clegli
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:43:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:bonuses you can focus heavily on shields and still have great armor.
you can fill your lows with hack/speed/insert LOL settup here and still have great shields.
you get 4 equipments
you hack REALLY quick if you skill into it Talkin bout minnie right?
yes. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:44:00 -
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Btw, should I still run AR? Or Scrambler Rifles? |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:53:00 -
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Caldari, frankly. In it's current form it can get some absurd tank going with Complex Extenders in high. Low slots can support an Energiser, some biotics for mobility and CPU/PG Boosters to fit better stuff in elsewhere. It doesn't necessarily sacrifice all that much to gain it's renowned toughness.
The hammer is gonna fall on it at some point, though.
Gallente is a pretty solid choice for taking heaps of Proto Equipment into the fight but lose out on Caldari and Minmatar mobility, less biotics and more plates. BUT, as part of a defensive emplacement with fellow armour tankers they do pretty great on account of Allotek Nanohives and Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohives. Former is ammo and +40 repair, latter is +70 repair. Both wide area, come in packs of 3. Can make themselves and fellow armour absurdly sustainable against most incoming damage, the real bane of these strategies is grenade bombardment however so look out for that.
Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Less durable in a straight up fight but I like their speed and innate hacking bonus. Personally use it to get nanohives and uplinks to where they'd benefit the team most using that mobility. Despite being balanced it's possibly the least conventional Logi? It's good for rapid flanking strikes to support the team so there's a bit of an aggressive edge to it. Don't have to use it that way but it's a strength to be acknowledged. It's partly because I've not skilled into a light weapon but Assault Scrambler Pistols have actually been working alright with it. Great for rapidly laying down damage in a firefight with some rapid headshots then getting out of there. Being able to speed tank is also great even if you're playing entirely defensively.
Amarr... hmm. Less PG, that's bad. Less equipment slots, also bad. Less slots in general, aw hell. For your purposes not so great. It's also slowest Logi. Sidearm at Proto which is actually very nice, but... it's Proto only. Advanced and Basic don't get the sidearm but still get penalised on equipment. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:55:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Caldari, frankly. In it's current form it can get some absurd tank going with Complex Extenders in high. Low slots can support an Energiser, some biotics for mobility and CPU/PG Boosters to fit better stuff in elsewhere. It doesn't necessarily sacrifice all that much to gain it's renowned toughness.
The hammer is gonna fall on it at some point, though.
Gallente is a pretty solid choice for taking heaps of Proto Equipment into the fight but lose out on Caldari and Minmatar mobility, less biotics and more plates. BUT, as part of a defensive emplacement with fellow armour tankers they do pretty great on account of Allotek Nanohives and Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohives. Former is ammo and +40 repair, latter is +70 repair. Both wide area, come in packs of 3. Can make themselves and fellow armour absurdly sustainable against most incoming damage, the real bane of these strategies is grenade bombardment however so look out for that.
Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Less durable in a straight up fight but I like their speed and innate hacking bonus. Personally use it to get nanohives and uplinks to where they'd benefit the team most using that mobility. Despite being balanced it's possibly the least conventional Logi? It's good for rapid flanking strikes to support the team so there's a bit of an aggressive edge to it. Don't have to use it that way but it's a strength to be acknowledged. It's partly because I've not skilled into a light weapon but Assault Scrambler Pistols have actually been working alright with it. Great for rapidly laying down damage in a firefight with some rapid headshots then getting out of there. Being able to speed tank is also great even if you're playing entirely defensively.
Amarr... hmm. Less PG, that's bad. Less equipment slots, also bad. Less slots in general, aw hell. For your purposes not so great. It's also slowest Logi. Sidearm at Proto which is actually very nice, but... it's Proto only. Advanced and Basic don't get the sidearm but still get penalised on equipment.
Thank you for the informative post, decided Minnie logi, goes with my playstyle.
Last question is...what weapon should I run with it? |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
36
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:56:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:Btw, should I still run AR? Or Scrambler Rifles?
I run MD, not as a FOTM, but to help finish off reds weakened by my squadies, and to shock reds to retreat back a bit while I Rez or rep or give a squadies the chance to move back, reload or what ever. Also, I'm a horrible shot with rifles so the MD allows me to contribute some kills while I'm dropping links, hives and repping. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:00:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:SnakeSix wrote:Btw, should I still run AR? Or Scrambler Rifles? I run MD, not as a FOTM, but to help finish off reds weakened by my squadies, and to shock reds to retreat back a bit while I Rez or rep or give a squadies the chance to move back, reload or what ever. Also, I'm a horrible shot with rifles so the MD allows me to contribute some kills while I'm dropping links, hives and repping.
Thanks for input, gonna keep it in mind. Don't really like the low ammo though.. Lol I'm a horrible shot with explosives, probably gonna kill my own teammates. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:04:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Caldari, frankly. In it's current form it can get some absurd tank going with Complex Extenders in high. Low slots can support an Energiser, some biotics for mobility and CPU/PG Boosters to fit better stuff in elsewhere. It doesn't necessarily sacrifice all that much to gain it's renowned toughness.
The hammer is gonna fall on it at some point, though.
Gallente is a pretty solid choice for taking heaps of Proto Equipment into the fight but lose out on Caldari and Minmatar mobility, less biotics and more plates. BUT, as part of a defensive emplacement with fellow armour tankers they do pretty great on account of Allotek Nanohives and Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohives. Former is ammo and +40 repair, latter is +70 repair. Both wide area, come in packs of 3. Can make themselves and fellow armour absurdly sustainable against most incoming damage, the real bane of these strategies is grenade bombardment however so look out for that.
Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Less durable in a straight up fight but I like their speed and innate hacking bonus. Personally use it to get nanohives and uplinks to where they'd benefit the team most using that mobility. Despite being balanced it's possibly the least conventional Logi? It's good for rapid flanking strikes to support the team so there's a bit of an aggressive edge to it. Don't have to use it that way but it's a strength to be acknowledged. It's partly because I've not skilled into a light weapon but Assault Scrambler Pistols have actually been working alright with it. Great for rapidly laying down damage in a firefight with some rapid headshots then getting out of there. Being able to speed tank is also great even if you're playing entirely defensively.
Amarr... hmm. Less PG, that's bad. Less equipment slots, also bad. Less slots in general, aw hell. For your purposes not so great. It's also slowest Logi. Sidearm at Proto which is actually very nice, but... it's Proto only. Advanced and Basic don't get the sidearm but still get penalised on equipment. Thank you for the informative post, decided Minnie logi, goes with my playstyle. Last question is...what weapon should I run with it? Hmm, the boring but practical answer is probably AR.
Scrambler Rifles I'd actually prefer but they have a higher PG requirement.
Mass Drivers with Flux Grenades gives you the ability to contribute to your squad's firepower in a bombardment and area denial capacity. Minmatar speed can also enable breaking off from the squad briefly to rapidly get somewhere overlooking the enemy your squad's engaging. A Quantum Active Scanner can help a great deal in verifying how feasible it is to do this, in fact the scanner's just an under appreciated boon in general if you've the room to fit it. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
723
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:06:00 -
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The best logi seems to be the original logi aka the minmatar logi, with the speed increase and hacking bonus it makes for a well rounded support suit that can get somewhere quickly for logi support and hack faster then any other unit if necessary.
I'd rank the gallente logi as the second best.
My ideal minny logi suit would be repps, needle, and proto re/pm
Sadly I'm a scout |
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion rise of legion
191
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:10:00 -
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I was lured in by the gallente bonus as well. Unfortunately, armor is broken currently, so you would really be gimping yourself by going gallente. Winmatar FTW. |
LRMXxX
What The French CRONOS.
27
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:12:00 -
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Stay away from Gal as long as Flaylock, MD or fused aren't fixed: armor tank is bad right now, I would suggest very strongly to opt for Minmatar (for the 4 equipment slots). |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
37
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:14:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:SnakeSix wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Caldari, frankly. In it's current form it can get some absurd tank going with Complex Extenders in high. Low slots can support an Energiser, some biotics for mobility and CPU/PG Boosters to fit better stuff in elsewhere. It doesn't necessarily sacrifice all that much to gain it's renowned toughness.
The hammer is gonna fall on it at some point, though.
Gallente is a pretty solid choice for taking heaps of Proto Equipment into the fight but lose out on Caldari and Minmatar mobility, less biotics and more plates. BUT, as part of a defensive emplacement with fellow armour tankers they do pretty great on account of Allotek Nanohives and Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohives. Former is ammo and +40 repair, latter is +70 repair. Both wide area, come in packs of 3. Can make themselves and fellow armour absurdly sustainable against most incoming damage, the real bane of these strategies is grenade bombardment however so look out for that.
Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Less durable in a straight up fight but I like their speed and innate hacking bonus. Personally use it to get nanohives and uplinks to where they'd benefit the team most using that mobility. Despite being balanced it's possibly the least conventional Logi? It's good for rapid flanking strikes to support the team so there's a bit of an aggressive edge to it. Don't have to use it that way but it's a strength to be acknowledged. It's partly because I've not skilled into a light weapon but Assault Scrambler Pistols have actually been working alright with it. Great for rapidly laying down damage in a firefight with some rapid headshots then getting out of there. Being able to speed tank is also great even if you're playing entirely defensively.
Amarr... hmm. Less PG, that's bad. Less equipment slots, also bad. Less slots in general, aw hell. For your purposes not so great. It's also slowest Logi. Sidearm at Proto which is actually very nice, but... it's Proto only. Advanced and Basic don't get the sidearm but still get penalised on equipment. Thank you for the informative post, decided Minnie logi, goes with my playstyle. Last question is...what weapon should I run with it? Hmm, the boring but practical answer is probably AR. Scrambler Rifles I'd actually prefer but they have a higher PG requirement. Mass Drivers with Flux Grenades gives you the ability to contribute to your squad's firepower in a bombardment and area denial capacity. Minmatar speed can also enable breaking off from the squad briefly to rapidly get somewhere overlooking the enemy your squad's engaging. A Quantum Active Scanner can help a great deal in verifying how feasible it is to do this, in fact the scanner's just an under appreciated boon in general if you've the room to fit it.
Thanks for input :D
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
723
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:29:00 -
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LRMXxX wrote:Stay away from Gal as long as Flaylock, MD or fused aren't fixed: armor tank is bad right now, I would suggest very strongly to opt for Minmatar (for the 4 equipment slots). What's wrong with the mass driver |
Vethosis
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
551
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:40:00 -
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minmitar gets 20 more clips in a magazine for SMGs. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
407
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:42:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:General John Ripper wrote:SnakeSix wrote:And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots. with everyone crying about cal logis, I don't think it would be safe to skill into them. CCP's nerfing abilities aren't the greatest. They may just make the suit useless. Yeah didnt plan on going Caldari, hate the FOTM in any game. Expecting a blow from nerf hammer to CalLogi and Flaylocks. Deciding between Gallente/Winmitar. If you don't plan Cal Logi for survivability, then your options are Galente or Minmatar. Flip a coin tbh... Min has a bit more versatility as far as roles you can play (runner, speedy shotgun hacker dude, w/e) whereas the Gal is going to let you run 4x proto equipment slots. /drool |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:45:00 -
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Minma and Galen are the true logi suits,but i go with mina since there basic suits till logi levels is more versatile than galen and minma has 3 slots at basic instead of 2 like most logis |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
36
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:46:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote: Gal is going to let you run 4x proto equipment slots. /drool
The reason I'm gal. |
Royce Kronos
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
68
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:50:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Actually, the Minmatar has 2/2/3 on the STD suit.
I would agree though. Go Minmatar if you want a balanced, all purpose logi suit with speed and hacking. Go Gallente if you are going full logibro and using proto equipment a good amount of the time.
I would suggest you read The Logi Code. Guide to Logi Success. for a fully detailed and comprehensive guide to logis.
Hope this helps. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:56:00 -
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Royce Kronos wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Minmatar are balanced and fast. 2/2/2, 3/3/3, 4/4/4 from STD to Proto. Actually, the Minmatar has 2/2/3 on the STD suit. I would agree though. Go Minmatar if you want a balanced, all purpose logi suit with speed and hacking. Go Gallente if you are going full logibro and using proto equipment a good amount of the time. I would suggest you read The Logi Code. Guide to Logi Success. for a fully detailed and comprehensive guide to logis. Hope this helps. Ah, my mistake. 'Least it was an underestimate rather than an over.
Vethosis wrote:minmitar gets 20 more clips in a magazine for SMGs. That's the Minmatar Assault bonus, the Logi's is the hacking speed boost. |
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TheWee BabySeamus
Dem Durrty Boyz
23
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:57:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots. galente logi is dope |
Delta90212
R.I.f.t
11
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:21:00 -
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Winmater FTW really versatile |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
682
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:24:00 -
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SnakeSix wrote:And I mean a serious support Logi, not some FOTM.
Currently going towards Gallente for the equipment slots.
Gallente logi women's suit is the best looking. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
175
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:26:00 -
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Seen a Minmatar Logi who was able to sprint twice as fast as me(i'm a scout) and who was able to hack the objectives in literally a couple of seconds flat. He just went from objective to objective at light speed hacking like crazy. It was quite impressive really. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
66
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:44:00 -
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I mainly use my proto gallente. thanks to the skill bonus to equipment you can get some great fits on it. i'm heavily tanked. do some great damage and can carry various equipment to be usefull on the battlefield too. i do liek my minny one though i use that at beginning with a couple kinetic/cardiac mods and carry drop uplinks and shield tank it to get into city and hack objectives and setup some uplinks for the fat suits to spawn in at. i also tend to use it after i cap. i just go into ambush oms and litter drop uplinks all over for my team, sit back and watch the points rack up from spawns |
bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
72
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:52:00 -
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I mostly run logi in a min sever suit (I got the bpo in chromosome) and I run a few different set ups on it depending on the map and the situation. Thing is flexible as ****.
Trust in rust. Go minmatar. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
38
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:24:00 -
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Went minmitar, very fun suit.. Gets to objectives first and lays down REs. Once I see that letter flash I see a +50 right after ;)
Thanks for input. |
EternalRMG
Eir Gaming
400
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:56:00 -
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Well i think, that as a Medic the best one is Gallente I run gallente logi and i can get 800 + Hp without being slow and having 4 proto equipment proto gun and nad 50%shields 50% armor Being a bit slow is not a problem, when you run witha heavy
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Abraham Hellsing
Turalyon Plus
0
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Posted - 2013.07.16 03:10:00 -
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Gal Logi IMO.
It not as slow as Amarr, and has more HP then Minmi. Gal can also be fit better with the CPU and PG bonus to equipment. Granted you run a tad slower with more armor plates, but you can fit more. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK rise of legion
264
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Posted - 2013.07.16 05:23:00 -
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Minmatar Logi is very well balanced, I'd say a solid choice. Gallente Logi is very much the heavier logi. The bonus allows it to field better equipment, but armor tanking makes it considerably slower. Amarr Logi has good base stats at standard, but the lack of PG/CPU and slots leave it wanting at higher levels, the sidearm isn't worth it IMO. Caldari Logi is the most combat oriented logi, and is a great fir with so many slots, but it is likely to be nerfed.
Amarr and Caldari only have 3 equipment slots at the proto level. Minmatar and Gallente have 4.
With any future balancing changes the logi should still keep its role as the primary equipment carrier. I have a Gallente Logi that does well, though my second choice would be Minmatar. The equipment slots and bonuses are what drive my decision. (and my race) |
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French Fancy
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
8
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Posted - 2013.07.16 05:39:00 -
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I am advanced gallente atm and it's great, the strongest atm is caldari but it will end up getting nerfed at some point... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
571
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Posted - 2013.07.16 05:53:00 -
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I'm at loyal Amarr supporter, but to be honest Gallente is the best support logi and here's why.
Support needs equipment. At prototype Caldari and Amarr logi have 3 equipment slots whereas Gallente and Minmatar have 4 so that eliminated two.
Between Gallente and Minmitar, let's look at the racial bonuses. Minmatar gets 25% faster hacking, whereas Gallente gets 25% reduction of equipment CPU and PG. With that saved PG and CPU you can place a complex code breaker and still have some spare saved CPU and PG, so the Minmatar logi is nullified.
Plus with the 25% reduction you can manage to fit all prototype equipment while still having room for complex modules.
Easy choice if you are going for pure support. |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
38
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:32:00 -
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French Fancy wrote:I am advanced gallente atm and it's great, the strongest atm is caldari but it will end up getting nerfed at some point...
i doubt it, if anything you'll get a "buff", armor is so broken atm |
SnakeSix
Pradox One
38
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:33:00 -
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Haven't specced into any weapon yet, still using militia AR, any suggestions?
I know MD is a popular choice....but idk. |
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