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D ust5 14 Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:18:00 - [1] - Quote Why is it not in game? Taken 10 years to make this game and it lacks basic functions like this...
General John Ripper The Generals EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:19:00 - [2] - Quote D ust5 14 wrote: Why is it not in game? Taken 10 years to make this game and it lacks basic functions like this... Soon.
D ust5 14 Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:21:00 - [3] - Quote Soon soon soon I am sick of this soon non-sense. SoonTM LOL SOONTM LOL SOONTM IT IS COMING SOON TM LOL
General John Ripper The Generals EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:24:00 - [4] - Quote D ust5 14 wrote: Soon soon soon I am sick of this soon non-sense. SoonTM LOL SOONTM LOL SOONTM IT IS COMING SOON TM LOL it is getting kinda old. Hm I know, lets all start saying it in spanish. Pronto TM
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 390	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:28:00 - [5] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: D ust5 14 wrote: Soon soon soon I am sick of this soon non-sense. SoonTM LOL SOONTM LOL SOONTM IT IS COMING SOON TM LOL it is getting kinda old. Hm I know, lets all start saying it in spanish. Pronto TM ProntoGäó If there was a player market or trading people would far less inclined to macro-transaction (things are very expensive relatively). CCP probably can simply not afford to lose the small amount of hard currency they eke out at present. The "I just bought such and such pack" threads are few and far between these days.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 561	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:30:00 - [6] - Quote It seems like CCP's response to this has been "Give players less salvage so they don't have much to trade anyways." I know it's coming soon, but even if it were implemented now I can't imagine there'd be much trading going on. Probably a lot right off the bat from players who got a bunch of salvage before they lowered its frequency and quantity (and those players are probably rolling in the ISK regardless), but after that not much. They should aim to launch this alongside a meaningful salvage system.
Julius Vindice A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 182	Posted - 2013.07.15 11:35:00 - [7] - Quote lam(TM) - latin for SOON I truly hope it will come soon, I want to buy me some of them Gastuns and sell the crap I don't want or need for a higher price and see what moron falls for my scam.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3340	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:17:00 - [8] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: D ust5 14 wrote: Soon soon soon I am sick of this soon non-sense. SoonTM LOL SOONTM LOL SOONTM IT IS COMING SOON TM LOL it is getting kinda old. Hm I know, lets all start saying it in spanish. Pronto TM You think it's just getting old? Try being an Eve player that had to see this word being thrown around for 10 years.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 650	Posted - 2013.07.15 13:18:00 - [9] - Quote Because of Balance.

Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 359	Posted - 2013.07.15 14:26:00 - [10] - Quote because the same team thats doing the item transfers JUST finished working on player isk transfers. and therefore should only NOW be working on item transfers. you can rest assured that the next update from that team will be item transfers, but this will be done carefully as it also involves the economy and as in eve CCP takes its econamy seriously so it will NOT be rushed and will even be held back in order to create a stable market.

The Attorney General ZionTCD 414	Posted - 2013.07.15 14:29:00 - [11] - Quote Why are you guys telling him Soon? Item trading is a LONG way off. Most likely next year, but that is my best guess. Don't give in to the CCP way of thinking with using a tired trope to explain away failings.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 330	Posted - 2013.07.15 14:32:00 - [12] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: If there was a player market or trading people would far less inclined to macro-transaction (things are very expensive relatively). CCP probably can simply not afford to lose the small amount of hard currency they eke out at present. You're saying here that CCP has ulterior motives to stop item trading. That's a load of BS. CCP stated I believe that BPOs and such would not be tradable. Outside that, allowing the trade of consumable items wouldn't hurt CCP's revenue from the game. If anything they would increase it. Also, item trading is core functionality that has to happen before other steps on the path of Eve-Dust interaction. It will be in in the next 4 months or sooner.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 359	Posted - 2013.07.15 14:35:00 - [13] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: Allah's Snackbar wrote: If there was a player market or trading people would far less inclined to macro-transaction (things are very expensive relatively). CCP probably can simply not afford to lose the small amount of hard currency they eke out at present. You're saying here that CCP has ulterior motives to stop item trading. That's a load of BS. CCP stated I believe that BPOs and such would not be tradable. Outside that, allowing the trade of consumable items wouldn't hurt CCP's revenue from the game. If anything they would increase it. Also, item trading is core functionality that has to happen before other steps on the path of Eve-Dust interaction. It will be in in the next 4 months or sooner. people could sell aurum weapons for ISK. what this would do is cause people who want to buy isk to buy aurum, buy desireable AUR weapons and then sell them for isk. it would increase the purchase of aurum not decrease it
The Attorney General ZionTCD 414	Posted - 2013.07.15 14:48:00 - [14] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: It will be in in the next 4 months or sooner. LOL, you keep dreaming. You will still have all your useless salvage at New Years.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 359	Posted - 2013.07.15 15:22:00 - [15] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: It will be in in the next 4 months or sooner. LOL, you keep dreaming. You will still have all your useless salvage at New Years. the reason they reduced the salvage numbers was to reduce the impact on the coming economy, they were seeking to avoid i giant overstock of salvage items, waiting 4 months would undue that work. i surmise that we are looking at about 1-2 months, probably 1.4 or 1.5 inventories are primed and ready for the change, and the framework used for item trading has been finished (isk trading was built of the framwork, they would of had to program the backend with both isk and item trading in mind so now its more than half finished and they are working on the finishing touches and the future market balancing) only after that will we start to see work done of providing rewards for faction warfare. certain things rely on other things to be developed and ready, its not hard to see how far along any particular project is. cloaking however is taking a long long time, there was probably some seriously huge bugs with it.
Poonmunch Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 88	Posted - 2013.07.15 15:31:00 - [16] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: D ust5 14 wrote: Why is it not in game? Taken 10 years to make this game and it lacks basic functions like this... Soon. I think you mean SOON(tm). Munch
Phantom Vaxer The Generals EoN. 27	Posted - 2013.07.15 15:57:00 - [17] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: It seems like CCP's response to this has been "Give players less salvage so they don't have much to trade anyways." I know it's coming soon, but even if it were implemented now I can't imagine there'd be much trading going on. Probably a lot right off the bat from players who got a bunch of salvage before they lowered its frequency and quantity (and those players are probably rolling in the ISK regardless), but after that not much. They should aim to launch this alongside a meaningful salvage system. But it's pretty annoying. I have collected so many rare salvage variants of weapons that I am not trained to use nor will train in them for a while and they just sit in my assets when I have corp members who could actually use the weapons
The Attorney General ZionTCD 416	Posted - 2013.07.15 16:01:00 - [18] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-pzODp6-hO8#t=1265s The slide gives you a better understanding of what is involved. We will not see limited item trading until after we see taxed transfers from EvE. They mention a couple of times they need to have a stable economy BEFORE we get limited item trading. So yeah, it is going to be a long wait.
TerdY420 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:25:00 - [19] - Quote Alot of these ideas would cripple the already fragile economy. With items having no value the risk reward would be gone leaving us with a sci fi cod. And I hate fish!
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 94	Posted - 2013.07.16 21:58:00 - [20] - Quote TerdY420 wrote: Alot of these ideas would cripple the already fragile economy. With items having no value the risk reward would be gone leaving us with a sci fi cod. And I hate fish! I think the whole "balance" concept is way to soon,. <--- lawl Just dump dust into eve's harsh world already, let me and every other jerry transfer 2 bill isk an be done with it,. Why beat around the bush with this fake non existing economy, lets just jump in the fire already..

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3339	Posted - 2013.07.16 22:02:00 - [21] - Quote EVENTUALLYGäó
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 74	Posted - 2013.07.16 22:03:00 - [22] - Quote D ust5 14 wrote: Soon soon soon I am sick of this soon non-sense. SoonTM LOL SOONTM LOL SOONTM IT IS COMING SOON TM LOL Let's time travel back to kindergarden and go to time out for a bit. Your tantrum is unacceptable.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 417	Posted - 2013.07.16 22:05:00 - [23] - Quote D ust5 14 wrote: Why is it not in game? Taken 10 years to make this game and it lacks basic functions like this... weally weally harrd to kode.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 74	Posted - 2013.07.16 22:06:00 - [24] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: because the same team thats doing the item transfers JUST finished working on player isk transfers. and therefore should only NOW be working on item transfers. you can rest assured that the next update from that team will be item transfers, but this will be done carefully as it also involves the economy and as in eve CCP takes its econamy seriously so it will NOT be rushed and will even be held back in order to create a stable market. (also mr dust, why are you going through all my old posts and liking all of them? are you a fan perhaps?) Seriously... You think this takes that long to program? I could show you the algorithm right now. Select Player ID Remove money from Player ID=1 Add money to player ID=2 // for giggles print note in wallet write to log... done. Now let's talk about item trades...


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