Uncreative and simple minded. You obviously need to go back to playing call of Dusty because Dust is supposed to be different from your average shooter.


They want the two games to intermingle, let us do something while we're sitting in space waiting mercs to accumulate WP so as to use our ship to call an OB. The purpous of the integration is to get people involved on both sides. Let us feel like we are actually doing something rather than sitting arounnd waiting to be used.

You don't uderstand. Eve is pay to play. And it takes months to earn ships worth a damn. We risk those ships every time we undock them. Its unfair that in such risk we can;t even put them to use.

Orbital Strikes were meant to turn the tide of battle. If it is based on WP, then the tide will only grow stronger in its current direction.

A greater amount of ignorance could not be spotted. You clearly are vouching for THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what dust is formed for. This isn't some "call of booty" p.o.s., no, this game is for moulding what happens later on in dust and eve. What Xerxes said makes perfect sense because it can help give teams that have a total downfall a slight edge, hopefully to turn the tables. WP is a good idea, but it's broken because if you lose, you lose. There is no coming back from a landslide game and it isn't fair to the losing team at all.

I fully support Xerxes

Sense of accomplishment? Your reward is victory, and the means to acquire it should not make you feel 'accomplished'. War is disgusting, and getting an OB gift-wrapped in WP isn't the right kind of disgusting.

Whilst you may argue it's a game and you're meant to have fun, I think the necessity for having equipment to highlight a target, then defending it until the strike is ready, then clearing the area, is more fun that acquiring an OB through killing newbies fresh out of the academy, then rubbing it in their face when you OB them as they finally break out of their redline and try capture a point.

You are a ****** or something sir. Your statement has nothing to do with what I was talking about. You obviously do not understand that DUST interlinks to EVE. I was complaining about how in EVE there is no reason for me to risk my billion isk ship waiting for some CoD/BF/etc fanboy to rack up the points to call in an orbital bombardment and smile. You selfish ignorent prick. That Orbital bombardment is not coming from YOU in DUST, it is coming from ME in EVE. "I SHOT THE [planet]..."

My complaint was that it is no fun for me IN EVE to literally wait for you to rack up enough WP to take credit for me risking my ship in orbit so you can brag about how you are awesome to your little buddies cuz you landed a triple kill with MY lasers. Alright? We on the same page yet? Did you actually read this? Stop trolling/being a jerk and think about what dust is SUPPOSED to be. Which is a game that has two games in one univers (oh, is that what "ne Universe One War" means? YES. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS).

I was sayign I have NO REASON to let you DUST BUNNIES go ahead and FIRE MEH LAZAZ and think you did all the work. I want to be the one to actually shoot, not just be the one who's presence ALLOWS you to shoot.

AGAIN I'm asking that tactical ammunition gets a -100% velocity modifier added to its description/effects, and an activation delay of about 120-180 seconds (perhaps you could make a skill to reduce this?) This time period would represent the ship coming to a stop, locking in on the coordinates, and calculating the proper trajectory it should use due to atmospheric conditions/composition, the speed of the planet and its rotation, gravity, etc. Since I will have stopped moving, and all my guns will be in use this will make me vulerable (IN EVE IN CASE YOU STILL HAVN'T GOTTEN IT). This means I will have to rely on my allies to cover me in non orbital bombardment ships. Since currently tactical ammo can only be fit on "Small" guns this means frigs and dessys would be the ones to fire, which are often very fragile (although I could see an abbadon givving up a high slot or two for some OB lasers). With all this in mind let us fire at will as many times as peole will paint targets. Anybody who plays eve knows on average there will not be more than 4-10 ships in orbit and of them only 1-3 might be equipped to OB. The rest are support/defense.
Turn friendly fire on so people are not stupid about painting, and make the painter a limited ammo item people have to equip. Bam. Done. I can have fun on both sides.

ALSO, keep the WP system for instant matches. It does a good job of compensating for people not being there IRL/IE.

Besides. As I recall they planned on adding planetary guns to shoot eve pilots, as well as shields to protect you from orbital strikes.If the system doesn;t change you can bet your butt I am not going to wait 20 minutes while under fire and at risk of a gank just so you can brag about your stupid triple kill.

Now, does anyone have any useful, nonignorent insight? That is to say is there anyone who has been on both sides of the OB and is actually qualified to commentate?