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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:03:00 -
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The rewards don't make much sense either.. Installation Destruction goal gives you Logistics + Rep tools? Really? The people wielding guns that can bring down installations(nay, the ones taking the TIME to do this!) are not using LOGISTICS AND REP TOOLS TO GET IT DONE!
Dumb reward structure, poor event implementation. Clearly, CCP is struggling to generate content. Expecially since this is not EVE - players don't generate the content here, CCP does. |
AKCP Scion Lex
LEX Investments
33
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:05:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:The rewards don't make much sense either.. Installation Destruction goal gives you Logistics + Rep tools? Really? The people wielding guns that can bring down installations(nay, the ones taking the TIME to do this!) are not using LOGISTICS AND REP TOOLS TO GET IT DONE!
Dumb reward structure, poor event implementation. Clearly, CCP is struggling to generate content. Expecially since this is not EVE - players don't generate the content here, CCP does.
You hit the nail on the head imo. Players dont generate content in Dust and if its ever going to be what they advertised/implied then THAT is what has to change. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:07:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:The rewards don't make much sense either.. Installation Destruction goal gives you Logistics + Rep tools? Really? The people wielding guns that can bring down installations(nay, the ones taking the TIME to do this!) are not using LOGISTICS AND REP TOOLS TO GET IT DONE!
Dumb reward structure, poor event implementation. Clearly, CCP is struggling to generate content. Expecially since this is not EVE - players don't generate the content here, CCP does.
I agree... the whole event is chopped from the ground up.... I believe the reason is because they don't listen to us or speak to us... this is my underlying reason for posting and im hoping CCP will get that point. but only if the community starts posting like they are paying attention... unlike that cinder person.... |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:08:00 -
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Julius Vindice wrote:The worst part of all this is that we can't actually keep track of all our progress in any way.
pretty much this. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:16:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:The rewards don't make much sense either.. Installation Destruction goal gives you Logistics + Rep tools? Really? The people wielding guns that can bring down installations(nay, the ones taking the TIME to do this!) are not using LOGISTICS AND REP TOOLS TO GET IT DONE!
Dumb reward structure, poor event implementation. Clearly, CCP is struggling to generate content. Especially since this is not EVE - players don't generate the content here, CCP does. Truth. |
Naedeus
DUST University Ivy League
82
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:24:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: I still see people afking in the mountains.
Excuse me sir... but we're not AFKing... we're sniping. Huge difference... ain't our fault our scopes are so horrible we can't provide proper assistance on the field.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6027
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:28:00 -
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CCP Eterne is poking around for a solid answer hopefully by monday.
Its currently assumed Neutral/Hostile Facilities count, Assist Hacks count on anything. Killing a manned turret nets a Facility and Kill. Assists on a facility may likely not net the count.
As for the event itself, CPM is already combing through the feedback and we mostly agreed that few of the points given about this type of event bear repeating. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6029
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:45:00 -
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Silly dp. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CCP Eterne is poking around for a solid answer hopefully by monday.
Its currently assumed Neutral/Hostile Facilities count, Assist Hacks count on anything. Killing a manned turret nets a Facility and Kill. Assists on a facility may likely not net the count.
As for the event itself, CPM is already combing through the feedback and we mostly agreed that few of the points given about this type of event bear repeating.
I am gracious and feel vindicated by this response.
thank you for taking the time to read and post. it really means a lot to me.
I just hope the devs follow your lead now and step up as well, in putting to rest the questions surrounding this bungled event and communicating with us in a more meaningful way. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6029
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:46:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CCP Eterne is poking around for a solid answer hopefully by monday.
Its currently assumed Neutral/Hostile Facilities count, Assist Hacks count on anything. Killing a manned turret nets a Facility and Kill. Assists on a facility may likely not net the count.
As for the event itself, CPM is already combing through the feedback and we mostly agreed that few of the points given about this type of event bear repeating. I am gracious and feel vindicated by this response. thank you for taking the time to read and post. it really means a lot to me. I just hope the devs follow your lead now and step up as well, in putting to rest the questions surrounding this bungled event and communicating with us in a more meaningful way.
Well CPM Hans has a sinister plan in motion for that at the next CCP/CPM meeting. |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6029
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:49:00 -
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You can keep up to what we are up too here.
http://hansshotfirst.blogspot.com/ |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:51:00 -
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will do and again... thanks |
JerechD Diaboli
DEATH FROM ABOVE CORP
2
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:58:00 -
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Naedeus wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: I still see people afking in the mountains. Excuse me sir... but we're not AFKing... we're sniping. Huge difference... ain't our fault our scopes are so horrible we can't provide proper assistance on the field.
Then you should do what I do. Leave the MCC/base mountain, advance to a flanking position and shoot the enemy from the side as they assume they are safe. You get better angles on the objectives too and can headhshot them as they refill ammo and stand still. At least twice as many kills per round as any MCC-camper. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
100
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Posted - 2013.07.13 21:52:00 -
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1 hack,1 kill,1 assist, 1 installation kill
per game for 15 games a day over 7 days.
job done.
without thinking about it i played a game and then looked back at what i did. in the game i tried this on without it in mind i got 9 kills, 7 assists, probably around 5 hacks and at least 2 installation kills. if i keep that up i can easy have all the rewards in half the time and most games i do better than that for installation kills and hacks. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:21:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:1 hack,1 kill,1 assist, 1 installation kill
per game for 15 games a day over 7 days.
job done.
without thinking about it i played a game and then looked back at what i did. in the game i tried this on without it in mind i got 9 kills, 7 assists, probably around 5 hacks and at least 2 installation kills. if i keep that up i can easy have all the rewards in half the time and most games i do better than that for installation kills and hacks.
16 people on a team... not 16 installations....bah you know what... im not gonna break it down for you... point is not everyone is as uber as you its a bad challenge apparently the CPM agrees ... that's enough for me.... |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
154
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:46:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:let me begin by saying im a huge supporter of EVE and DUST. im a huge fan of both games and I understand the latter is a work in progress. ive been playing dust since January 23 and im having tons of fun which is only magnified by the wonderful corp im a part of. I know CCP is working diligently and tirelessly on both of their games and I give them big ups for their hard work.
now, that out of the way, I must say this mordus challenge is the worst thing to happen to dust yet. this game already has enough issues and this challenge has thrown in an un needed element of chaos. until this challenge began I was all about team work, now I don't give a crap, I just want to meet my quota for the challenge, which means im doing all things I hate about the other stupid blueberries like shooting my teammates to scare them off a hack so I can hack, or blow up the installation before they hack it, or letting raspberries hack so I can hack it back...to make sure I get kill assists I only shoot red dots a few times and then leave them to the blue dots hoping they finish them off... I don't care if we win... I just care if I get an assist... just 1 will do...wtf CCP! DIDNT YOU SEE THIS COMING?
I admit I didn't but im not a super genius dev...maybe a challenge based on winning and teamwork would have been a better fit for this game?
I was appalled when CCP told us we would need to track our progress with pen and paper... REALLY! granted im not a computer programmer but is the coding involved so complex that a counter couldn't have been incorporated for this challenge? was it laziness a brain fart or classic CCP trolling? which ever it was in and of itself it wouldn't be a big deal but you guys have been extremely abusive in your dealings with the dust community.
I will not go on a rant pointing out all the ways in which you have been abusive I will just point to your forums and your ominous silence on them... your community is EFFING PISSED!
yeah yeah its a game I know... look I have a wife and a kid and better things to do but as ive stated im a huge fan and this is how I unwind... and when the way I come to unwind makes me more stressed out well its disheartening and that's just a real efing shame....so I implore you CCP figure out how to respect your community and engage it in a meaningful way or GTFO... cause I sure will.....
Seriously? These are optional achievements. The fact that you are behaving like an arse to get them has nothing to do with CCP and everything to do with you. The way I have approached this is: I don't drive a Tank, I haven't specc'd too much into AV yet. So not going for the Destruction Objective. Kills/Assists No problem Hacking, not going to get that one. I only ever Re-Hack if noone else is around to do it (because I don't run in a Squad. I think running around taking WP from a Squad who might get an OB is a bit ******). So, unless I missed the CCP team when they came round to force me to behave like a ****. I have participated in this event and await my prize. My life will not end if I don't get them all. I feel no self-imposed pressure to get them all. I'm playing DUST514 because I actually enjoy it (mostly, Draw Distance and Rendering blah, blah...). sigh... you missed my point... but that's ok... *pats head*
It seems I did.
It was late. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.07.14 00:08:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:let me begin by saying im a huge supporter of EVE and DUST. im a huge fan of both games and I understand the latter is a work in progress. ive been playing dust since January 23 and im having tons of fun which is only magnified by the wonderful corp im a part of. I know CCP is working diligently and tirelessly on both of their games and I give them big ups for their hard work.
now, that out of the way, I must say this mordus challenge is the worst thing to happen to dust yet. this game already has enough issues and this challenge has thrown in an un needed element of chaos. until this challenge began I was all about team work, now I don't give a crap, I just want to meet my quota for the challenge, which means im doing all things I hate about the other stupid blueberries like shooting my teammates to scare them off a hack so I can hack, or blow up the installation before they hack it, or letting raspberries hack so I can hack it back...to make sure I get kill assists I only shoot red dots a few times and then leave them to the blue dots hoping they finish them off... I don't care if we win... I just care if I get an assist... just 1 will do...wtf CCP! DIDNT YOU SEE THIS COMING?
I admit I didn't but im not a super genius dev...maybe a challenge based on winning and teamwork would have been a better fit for this game?
I was appalled when CCP told us we would need to track our progress with pen and paper... REALLY! granted im not a computer programmer but is the coding involved so complex that a counter couldn't have been incorporated for this challenge? was it laziness a brain fart or classic CCP trolling? which ever it was in and of itself it wouldn't be a big deal but you guys have been extremely abusive in your dealings with the dust community.
I will not go on a rant pointing out all the ways in which you have been abusive I will just point to your forums and your ominous silence on them... your community is EFFING PISSED!
yeah yeah its a game I know... look I have a wife and a kid and better things to do but as ive stated im a huge fan and this is how I unwind... and when the way I come to unwind makes me more stressed out well its disheartening and that's just a real efing shame....so I implore you CCP figure out how to respect your community and engage it in a meaningful way or GTFO... cause I sure will.....
Seriously? These are optional achievements. The fact that you are behaving like an arse to get them has nothing to do with CCP and everything to do with you. The way I have approached this is: I don't drive a Tank, I haven't specc'd too much into AV yet. So not going for the Destruction Objective. Kills/Assists No problem Hacking, not going to get that one. I only ever Re-Hack if noone else is around to do it (because I don't run in a Squad. I think running around taking WP from a Squad who might get an OB is a bit ******). So, unless I missed the CCP team when they came round to force me to behave like a ****. I have participated in this event and await my prize. My life will not end if I don't get them all. I feel no self-imposed pressure to get them all. I'm playing DUST514 because I actually enjoy it (mostly, Draw Distance and Rendering blah, blah...). sigh... you missed my point... but that's ok... *pats head* It seems I did. It was late. well as long as your on board now its all good |
Clyffton Donovan
Fallen Angels Syndicate
9
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:06:00 -
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*bro hugs*
I know that feel bro... |
Jimmy McNaulty
Big NERDS
0
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mordu doesn't give a crap about your teamwork, he's looking if YOU, the merc, are worth your weight in biomass.
He doesn't give a crap what it does to your battles, he just wants to see you dance.
This post right here has been the singe most rewarding thing my eyes have ever had the pleasure of reading since I started browsing the forums. If I could spend the time liking this a thousand times in place of the hours wasted trying to destroy installations it would not be a wasted life. I danced to the tune well beyond my weekly cap and now I give up. Just need Thursday to show up so I know when my teammates are being useless that it's not because they need to blow up every single thing on the map like some damn single minded junkies looking for their next fix. |
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Herkimer the Gimble
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:28:00 -
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Just came to say player stats would be nice. I like the challenge but it's hard to keep track of how I'm doing. |
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