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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.13 12:13:00 -
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let me begin by saying im a huge supporter of EVE and DUST.
im a huge fan of both games and I understand the latter is a work in progress.
ive been playing dust since January 23 and im having tons of fun which is only magnified by the wonderful corp im a part of.
I know CCP is working diligently and tirelessly on both of their games and I give them big ups for their hard work.
now, that out of the way, I must say this mordus challenge is the worst thing to happen to dust yet.
this game already has enough issues and this challenge has thrown in an un needed element of chaos.
until this challenge began I was all about team work, now I don't give a crap, I just want to meet my quota for the challenge, which means im doing all things I hate about the other stupid blueberries like shooting my teammates to scare them off a hack so I can hack, or blow up the installation before they hack it, or letting raspberries hack so I can hack it back...to make sure I get kill assists I only shoot red dots a few times and then leave them to the blue dots hoping they finish them off... I don't care if we win... I just care if I get an assist... just 1 will do...wtf CCP! DIDNT YOU SEE THIS COMING?
I admit I didn't but im not a super genius dev...maybe a challenge based on winning and teamwork would have been a better fit for this game?
I was appalled when CCP told us we would need to track our progress with pen and paper... REALLY!
granted im not a computer programmer but is the coding involved so complex that a counter couldn't have been incorporated for this challenge? was it laziness a brain fart or classic CCP trolling? which ever it was in and of itself it wouldn't be a big deal but you guys have been extremely abusive in your dealings with the dust community.
I will not go on a rant pointing out all the ways in which you have been abusive I will just point to your forums and your ominous silence on them... your community is EFFING PISSED!
yeah yeah its a game I know... look I have a wife and a kid and better things to do but as ive stated im a huge fan and this is how I unwind... and when the way I come to unwind makes me more stressed out well its disheartening and that's just a real efing shame....so I implore you CCP figure out how to respect your community and engage it in a meaningful way or GTFO... cause I sure will.....
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
138
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Posted - 2013.07.13 12:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Teamwork generally doesn't happen much anyway in random matches.
not the point
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2013.07.13 13:56:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sorry buddy, but you are asking for too much if you expected any teamwork in a pub match full of blueberries. I can't tell any difference between now and then with this challenge and I still see people afking in the mountains or on the MCC.
well I can tell a difference within myself and I cant imagine im the only one... I know there are always gonna be non team players...but I was one before this challenge... now im a real jerk... and I cant be the only one who has altered their play style for this stupid challenge.... if I am then I guess that makes me a real POS.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2013.07.13 13:57:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Sorry buddy, but you are asking for too much if you expected any teamwork in a pub match full of blueberries. I can't tell any difference between now and then with this challenge and I still see people afking in the mountains or on the MCC. well I can tell a difference within myself and I cant imagine im the only one... I know there are always gonna be non team players...but I was one before this challenge... now im a real jerk... and I cant be the only one who has altered their play style for this stupid challenge.... if I am then I guess that makes me a real POS....
let me also say that this is not the only point of my post its also the way CCP has been toward us... am I alone in feeling they have been less than respectful and communicative? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:48:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:let me begin by saying im a huge supporter of EVE and DUST.
im a huge fan of both games and I understand the latter is a work in progress.
ive been playing dust since January 23 and im having tons of fun which is only magnified by the wonderful corp im a part of.
I know CCP is working diligently and tirelessly on both of their games and I give them big ups for their hard work.
now, that out of the way, I must say this mordus challenge is the worst thing to happen to dust yet.
this game already has enough issues and this challenge has thrown in an un needed element of chaos.
until this challenge began I was all about team work, now I don't give a crap, I just want to meet my quota for the challenge, which means im doing all things I hate about the other stupid blueberries like shooting my teammates to scare them off a hack so I can hack, or blow up the installation before they hack it, or letting raspberries hack so I can hack it back...to make sure I get kill assists I only shoot red dots a few times and then leave them to the blue dots hoping they finish them off... I don't care if we win... I just care if I get an assist... just 1 will do...wtf CCP! DIDNT YOU SEE THIS COMING?
I admit I didn't but im not a super genius dev...maybe a challenge based on winning and teamwork would have been a better fit for this game?
I was appalled when CCP told us we would need to track our progress with pen and paper... REALLY!
granted im not a computer programmer but is the coding involved so complex that a counter couldn't have been incorporated for this challenge? was it laziness a brain fart or classic CCP trolling? which ever it was in and of itself it wouldn't be a big deal but you guys have been extremely abusive in your dealings with the dust community.
I will not go on a rant pointing out all the ways in which you have been abusive I will just point to your forums and your ominous silence on them... your community is EFFING PISSED!
yeah yeah its a game I know... look I have a wife and a kid and better things to do but as ive stated im a huge fan and this is how I unwind... and when the way I come to unwind makes me more stressed out well its disheartening and that's just a real efing shame....so I implore you CCP figure out how to respect your community and engage it in a meaningful way or GTFO... cause I sure will.....
Seriously? These are optional achievements. The fact that you are behaving like an arse to get them has nothing to do with CCP and everything to do with you. The way I have approached this is: I don't drive a Tank, I haven't specc'd too much into AV yet. So not going for the Destruction Objective. Kills/Assists No problem Hacking, not going to get that one. I only ever Re-Hack if noone else is around to do it (because I don't run in a Squad. I think running around taking WP from a Squad who might get an OB is a bit ******). So, unless I missed the CCP team when they came round to force me to behave like a ****. I have participated in this event and await my prize. My life will not end if I don't get them all. I feel no self-imposed pressure to get them all. I'm playing DUST514 because I actually enjoy it (mostly, Draw Distance and Rendering blah, blah...).
sigh... you missed my point... but that's ok... *pats head* |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2013.07.13 15:38:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:I'll hit the 100x Installations probably about the time I hit 100x Kills.
(There are 2-6 on the enemy's side every skirmish)
completing the challenge isn't the issue its the poor way in which it was implemented like no counter, the poor behavior it encourages like I stated in my original post the vagueness of the rules like with whether neutral installations will count or not and the challenge aside , the fact they don't communicate with us in a productive way.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:46:00 -
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Cinder Integ wrote:OP, this event rocked.
It can be completed in militia gear.
It can be completed in a short amount of time, (10 to 14 hours) by many counts... and there's no need to mention how long the typical gamer plays each week.
The objectives for this event, are tasks most players would have accomplished even if the event didn't take place.
Installations, mainly turrets, can be killed so many different ways... with another turret, remote explosives, FREE militia LAV with missile launcher on the back... and so on.
Many people are having fun, tracking there kills on objectives for the event, stop raining on our parades. Or better yet, just stop *****ing.
-Cinder
let me ask you something... are you sure you finished? did you count vehicle hacks? cause they counted at first... they don't now... did you count neutral turrets? cause they may or may not count... were you paying attention to the demeanor of the rest of your team and the other team? can you speak for all of their "fun"? how will you feel if at the end of the event on the kills and assists rewards the 2 most easily tracked you don't get your rewards cause you flubbed by 1 or 2 for lack of a counter?.... and when an issue in this game arises ... if one already hasn't.... that sends you QQing to the forms.... and CCP remains ominously silent on it how much will you moan?
why is it when someone speaks up just trying to make an experience in a game we love better, do people like you feel the need to gape their anus and pour down the brown fluid, instead of getting behind them for the sake of the community?
is it because you seek attention?
or is it that your a fanboi?
a troll?
or just an A hole?
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:00:00 -
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Nack Jicholson wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:sigh... you missed my point... but that's ok... *pats head* He/she may have missed some of your point, and as is so often the case on this forum the wordage and overall tone is way too confrontational and argumenative, but he/she is replying to what you said about the challenges affect on gameplay. You just have to let this challenge slide a little bit, just ignore it and keep playing. It's not like any of the rewards are real game changers or anything anyway. That's the route I've taken with it. I'm new to the game, so i'm still engaged by the standard run of the mill stuff...maybe to players that have been around longer the expectations were higher for this.
my concern is more the vagueness with which CCP has handled the event in sending mixed messages and not providing a counter or a challenge that makes us want to work together... this is a team oriented game despite the naysayers... their over all silence in general and their seeming lack of respect for the community. if your new I get it no big deal... if your a fanboi I get it no big deal... but im a gamer I like games and I like this game I think CCP is on to something really special here... I want to be in it for the long haul... ive been let down by many games in the past that had the same potential and failed because of design flaws and community suicide and I don't want that to happen here....
am I being dramatic? idk...
let the community hang me if I am or confirm my concerns if im not.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:07:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:The rewards don't make much sense either.. Installation Destruction goal gives you Logistics + Rep tools? Really? The people wielding guns that can bring down installations(nay, the ones taking the TIME to do this!) are not using LOGISTICS AND REP TOOLS TO GET IT DONE!
Dumb reward structure, poor event implementation. Clearly, CCP is struggling to generate content. Expecially since this is not EVE - players don't generate the content here, CCP does.
I agree... the whole event is chopped from the ground up.... I believe the reason is because they don't listen to us or speak to us... this is my underlying reason for posting and im hoping CCP will get that point. but only if the community starts posting like they are paying attention... unlike that cinder person.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CCP Eterne is poking around for a solid answer hopefully by monday.
Its currently assumed Neutral/Hostile Facilities count, Assist Hacks count on anything. Killing a manned turret nets a Facility and Kill. Assists on a facility may likely not net the count.
As for the event itself, CPM is already combing through the feedback and we mostly agreed that few of the points given about this type of event bear repeating.
I am gracious and feel vindicated by this response.
thank you for taking the time to read and post. it really means a lot to me.
I just hope the devs follow your lead now and step up as well, in putting to rest the questions surrounding this bungled event and communicating with us in a more meaningful way. |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:48:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
150
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:51:00 -
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will do and again... thanks |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:21:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:1 hack,1 kill,1 assist, 1 installation kill
per game for 15 games a day over 7 days.
job done.
without thinking about it i played a game and then looked back at what i did. in the game i tried this on without it in mind i got 9 kills, 7 assists, probably around 5 hacks and at least 2 installation kills. if i keep that up i can easy have all the rewards in half the time and most games i do better than that for installation kills and hacks.
16 people on a team... not 16 installations....bah you know what... im not gonna break it down for you... point is not everyone is as uber as you its a bad challenge apparently the CPM agrees ... that's enough for me.... |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2013.07.14 00:08:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:let me begin by saying im a huge supporter of EVE and DUST.
im a huge fan of both games and I understand the latter is a work in progress.
ive been playing dust since January 23 and im having tons of fun which is only magnified by the wonderful corp im a part of.
I know CCP is working diligently and tirelessly on both of their games and I give them big ups for their hard work.
now, that out of the way, I must say this mordus challenge is the worst thing to happen to dust yet.
this game already has enough issues and this challenge has thrown in an un needed element of chaos.
until this challenge began I was all about team work, now I don't give a crap, I just want to meet my quota for the challenge, which means im doing all things I hate about the other stupid blueberries like shooting my teammates to scare them off a hack so I can hack, or blow up the installation before they hack it, or letting raspberries hack so I can hack it back...to make sure I get kill assists I only shoot red dots a few times and then leave them to the blue dots hoping they finish them off... I don't care if we win... I just care if I get an assist... just 1 will do...wtf CCP! DIDNT YOU SEE THIS COMING?
I admit I didn't but im not a super genius dev...maybe a challenge based on winning and teamwork would have been a better fit for this game?
I was appalled when CCP told us we would need to track our progress with pen and paper... REALLY!
granted im not a computer programmer but is the coding involved so complex that a counter couldn't have been incorporated for this challenge? was it laziness a brain fart or classic CCP trolling? which ever it was in and of itself it wouldn't be a big deal but you guys have been extremely abusive in your dealings with the dust community.
I will not go on a rant pointing out all the ways in which you have been abusive I will just point to your forums and your ominous silence on them... your community is EFFING PISSED!
yeah yeah its a game I know... look I have a wife and a kid and better things to do but as ive stated im a huge fan and this is how I unwind... and when the way I come to unwind makes me more stressed out well its disheartening and that's just a real efing shame....so I implore you CCP figure out how to respect your community and engage it in a meaningful way or GTFO... cause I sure will.....
Seriously? These are optional achievements. The fact that you are behaving like an arse to get them has nothing to do with CCP and everything to do with you. The way I have approached this is: I don't drive a Tank, I haven't specc'd too much into AV yet. So not going for the Destruction Objective. Kills/Assists No problem Hacking, not going to get that one. I only ever Re-Hack if noone else is around to do it (because I don't run in a Squad. I think running around taking WP from a Squad who might get an OB is a bit ******). So, unless I missed the CCP team when they came round to force me to behave like a ****. I have participated in this event and await my prize. My life will not end if I don't get them all. I feel no self-imposed pressure to get them all. I'm playing DUST514 because I actually enjoy it (mostly, Draw Distance and Rendering blah, blah...). sigh... you missed my point... but that's ok... *pats head* It seems I did. It was late.
well as long as your on board now its all good  |
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