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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:56:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote: A new player using INFERIOR fittings SHOULD be easier to kill with a PROTO weapon. You can't just balance proto weapons based on stats of non-proto and noob suits. Otherwise there would be ZERO incentive to use a proto gun in the first place.
Just like a Taranis will slaughter an Incubus in EVE....
apples and oranges. there was a time a taranis would **** even cruisers, guess what happened? Yea that's right, they FIXED it.
Ah, happy days
There was a time when I could sit in a Falcon and jam everything from 180k+, guess what happened?
They broke my Falcon |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
215
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:57:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote: A new player using INFERIOR fittings SHOULD be easier to kill with a PROTO weapon. You can't just balance proto weapons based on stats of non-proto and noob suits. Otherwise there would be ZERO incentive to use a proto gun in the first place.
Just like a Taranis will slaughter an Incubus in EVE....
apples and oranges. there was a time a taranis would **** even cruisers, guess what happened? Yea that's right, they FIXED it. Ah, happy days There was a time when I could sit in a Falcon and jam everything from 180k+, guess what happened? They broke my Falcon
Yeah...they fixed it because there was no real counter to it...which isn't the case when it comes to the FL |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
182
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Posted - 2013.07.13 15:18:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote: Ah, happy days There was a time when I could sit in a Falcon and jam everything from 180k+, guess what happened? They broke my Falcon
Yeah...they fixed it because there was no real counter to it...which isn't the case when it comes to the FL [/quote]
Dude am in favour of getting FP to **** out of the game completely am just saying the above poster made a ****** analogy by using taranis and incursus
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
217
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Posted - 2013.07.13 15:20:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote: Ah, happy days There was a time when I could sit in a Falcon and jam everything from 180k+, guess what happened? They broke my Falcon Yeah...they fixed it because there was no real counter to it...which isn't the case when it comes to the FL Dude am in favour of getting FP to **** out of the game completely am just saying the above poster made a ****** analogy by using taranis and incursus
I made that analogy, and it was a good one...and no, removing the FP is a ridiculous idea |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:13:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:Try out a gallente protologi against explosions, talk to you later. Try out a Caldari shield suit against my scrambler pistol...yeah...talk later
I don't really see how that defends your "talk PRO suits and not non-PRO suits when you talk about PRO weapons"-statement, now try to make more sense. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:15:00 -
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RKKR wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:Try out a gallente protologi against explosions, talk to you later. Try out a Caldari shield suit against my scrambler pistol...yeah...talk later I don't really see how that defends your "talk PRO suits and not non-PRO suits when you talk about PRO weapons"-statement, now try to make more sense.
You were whining about the FL/MD explosive damage against armor tankers....which is ridiculous, because shield tankers face the exact same issues against my scrambler pistol. Think before posting |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
182
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:17:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:I made that analogy, and it was a good one...and no, removing the FP is a ridiculous idea
lol its a horrible analogy that doesn't make sense, plus removing something that is broke isn't as ridiculous as letting a problem persist. moron. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:21:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:Try out a gallente protologi against explosions, talk to you later. Try out a Caldari shield suit against my scrambler pistol...yeah...talk later I don't really see how that defends your "talk PRO suits and not non-PRO suits when you talk about PRO weapons"-statement, now try to make more sense. You were whining about the FL/MD explosive damage against armor tankers....which is ridiculous, because shield tankers face the exact same issues against my scrambler pistol. Think before posting
I'm whining now?
I think you need to use your pistol better.
Now give me some numbers with damage per shot for both weapons and shield/armor-tankers, talk to you later and thanks for admitting in a passive way that your statement didn't make sense. |
Cat Merc
DUST University Ivy League
3053
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:29:00 -
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If you're Caldari and think the flaylock is fine, you should try a gallente suit. See how long you last. A suit with 4x complex armor plates, which is a terrible fit btw because you have no recharge and almost no PG left, survives THREE FLAYLOCK SHOTS. THREE. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:If you're Caldari and think the flaylock is fine, you should try a gallente suit. See how long you last. A suit with 4x complex armor plates, which is a terrible fit btw because you have no recharge and almost no PG left, survives THREE FLAYLOCK SHOTS. THREE.
Aaaah my dear Cat Merc, could you also educate our readers and share your wissom about the accuracy needed for -let us say- a flaylock versus scrambler pistol.
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:51:00 -
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RKKR wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:RKKR wrote:Try out a gallente protologi against explosions, talk to you later. Try out a Caldari shield suit against my scrambler pistol...yeah...talk later I don't really see how that defends your "talk PRO suits and not non-PRO suits when you talk about PRO weapons"-statement, now try to make more sense. You were whining about the FL/MD explosive damage against armor tankers....which is ridiculous, because shield tankers face the exact same issues against my scrambler pistol. Think before posting I'm whining now? I think you need to use your pistol better. Now give me some numbers with damage per shot for both weapons and shield/armor-tankers, talk to you later and thanks for admitting in a passive way that your statement didn't make sense.
What do you mean by saying "use your pistol better"? I have no issues using my pistol, that's why I realise it's just as effective against shield tankers like a flaylock against armor tankers
You make no sense whatsoever |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:51:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:I made that analogy, and it was a good one...and no, removing the FP is a ridiculous idea lol its a horrible analogy that doesn't make sense, plus removing something that is broke isn't as ridiculous as letting a problem persist. moron.
It isn't broken...you are simply too bad at the game to adapt |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:54:00 -
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Are you telling me you have more trouble taking out armor tankers with a scrambler pistol?
BTW I'm still waiting on my numbers. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 16:57:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Are you telling me you have more trouble taking out armor tankers with a scrambler pistol?
BTW I'm still waiting on my numbers.
Of course you're having more trouble taking out armor tankers with a scrambler pistol, look at its stats
Numbers are on the forum, do a search...I'm not your mom who needs to feed you |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:01:00 -
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My mommy also failed to stop me from "whining" so I'm afraid you have to, but I guess it's not that hard since it's already out there. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:02:00 -
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RKKR wrote:My mommy also failed to stop me from "whining" so I'm afraid you have to, but I guess it's not that hard since it's already out there.
She sure didn't teach you not to whine, that's for sure |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:05:00 -
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Are you trying to divert the attention now? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:07:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Are you trying to divert the attention now?
Diverting attention from what? I was merely replying to your dumb post |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
65
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:13:00 -
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The mass driver is brilliant now, such finesse :-) |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:14:00 -
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Dumb enough to backup the argument that MD and/or flaylocks aren't OP by making a bunch of nonsense posts...ooh wait!
Now show us them numbers! |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
219
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:18:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Dumb enough to backup the argument that MD and/or flaylocks aren't OP by making a bunch of nonsense posts...ooh wait!
Now show us them numbers!
So you really ARE too dumb to use the forum's search function? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5007
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:19:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Most weapons will take any suit out in 4 seconds if you shoot straight down?
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
225
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Most weapons will take any suit out in 4 seconds if you shoot straight down?
No...but most weapons also don't do the same shooting up...or doing it from 300m away...or OHK you at bumping distance. All weapons have tradeoffs |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
211
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:25:00 -
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I'm afraid so :(, I really wish it was that easy to do so I could just paste or refer people to it in a argument! Please help me out before this thread and with it the original message end up into the archives and forgotten by those that pollute it with nonsense. |
Cat Merc
DUST University Ivy League
3053
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:30:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Cat Merc wrote:If you're Caldari and think the flaylock is fine, you should try a gallente suit. See how long you last. A suit with 4x complex armor plates, which is a terrible fit btw because you have no recharge and almost no PG left, survives THREE FLAYLOCK SHOTS. THREE. Aaaah my dear Cat Merc, could you also educate our readers and share your wissom about the accuracy needed for -let us say- a flaylock versus scrambler pistol. Indeed. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
225
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:30:00 -
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RKKR wrote:I'm afraid so :(, I really wish it was that easy to do so I could just paste or refer people to it in a argument! Please help me out before this thread and with it the original message end up into the archives and forgotten by those that pollute it with nonsense.
If you're too dumb to use the search function, how do you expect ppl to take you seriously in the first place? |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:37:00 -
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Basicly because I'm not trying to defend the title of this thread and you're the one that fails to do this simple thing, which actually says more than your namecalling. Therefore it's in my favor to keep this silly act up.
But I guess you could already tell that by the manner of how I was responding. So what's it going to be? |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
225
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:49:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Basicly because I'm not trying to defend the title of this thread and you're the one that fails to do this simple thing, which actually says more than your namecalling. Therefore it's in my favor to keep this silly act up.
But I guess you could already tell that by the manner of how I was responding. So what's it going to be?
You're not even willing to do the research, so why on earth would anyone else waste his time talking to you? You're merely ranting and you obviously have no clue about the strength of the other proto sidearms
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RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:06:00 -
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You tried to prove that the flaylock is not OP by saying that people using non-PRO suits should stop complaining about it.
I prove that PRO-suits still can complain about the flaylock. Then you make a statement about scrambler pistol and shieldtanking and I ask how that proves your statement. You say you have more trouble taking out armor tankers with it and I say you need to learn your pistol better (and now you try to tell me I don't know anything about them LOL).
You also haven't talked about the accuracy needed to kill someone with a flaylock VS scrambler pistol (I guess that's why you have trouble taking out armor tankers).
You're telling me there are numbers which I admit I'm too dumb to find, but you also seem to fail and come up with them. Yet you keep investing energy in my "ranting".
I say you're bluffing. Prove me wrong or lose from a ranting ******! it's up to you. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5007
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:09:00 -
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RKKR wrote:You also haven't talked about the accuracy needed to kill someone with a flaylock VS scrambler pistol (I guess that's why you have trouble taking out armor tankers).
This is by far my favorite argument that I hear from crutchlock users, that somehow it takes the same or MORE skill to use than the Scrambler.
It's just like.
And then they were all.
And I was just.
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