More the reason to get your leader to agree with the no flaylock + fused ceasefire. If anything it will be a worthwhile experiment.

If this is agreed upon by both parties, Hellstorm will abide by it. You think us untrustworthy and not honorable, but you could not be further from the truth.

I mean really, lets look at the big picture and where Dust currently is at. You're actually bashing HS for using weapons that are proven to be effective in the games current state? What did you expect, a pillow fight?

I'm truly amazed at the amount of bitching an moaning coming from a corp that won the matches they are complaining about. I can only imagine the mass QQ if you guys had lost, I bet even using AR's would have been inexcusable

Just because a gun is a Flavor of the month and effective doesn't mean you have to stoop down low like rats and use it. You could still maintain a shred of dignity and win against the bums depending on it... Like we do :)

So not one single TP player used a contact nade or a flaylock?

I'd love to have this agreement in any PC. Sadly as someone above said. One person will start using em being as they get owned and then It'll be back to square one.

there should be rules in PC on what is banned to use and what is allowed. kinda like yugioh tournaments where some cards are just completely banned to use during a match.

so far i vote

Contact Grenades: These things are just plain pathetic some people throw them first even before the gun fight starts which this is a huge NO NO.

We use because you have to fight fire with fire. Do we use regularly and as a primary. HELL NO! We don't need to depend on a crutch. However those flaylocks and contact nades are too OP you have to fight them back by using them. Specially when a entire alliance depends on them to remain competitive.

So TP speced into flaylocks purely as a defense mechanism?

And I dunno, I find it quite satisfying to take out flayers with a properly cooked nade, sounds like you guys needed a vice just to keep up instead of giving HS a gool ol' fashioned beating with skill-weapons.

Big question remains... if you guys didn't resort to OP noob weaponry, would you have won? Or is fighting fire with fire your only means of success?

So TP speced into flaylocks purely as a defense mechanism?

And I dunno, I find it quite satisfying to take out flayers with a properly cooked nade, sounds like you guys needed a vice just to keep up instead of giving HS a gool ol' fashioned beating with skill-weapons.

Big question remains... if you guys didn't resort to OP noob weaponry, would you have won? Or is fighting fire with fire your only means of success?

Actually we have 3 maybe 4 Flaylockers. So ya. I wouldn't make it sound like the whole corp spec into them like yours did :)

"GUYS, ITS GONNA BE A GOOD CLEAN MATCH, NO FLAYLOCK!"

there should be rules in PC on what is banned to use and what is allowed. kinda like yugioh tournaments where some cards are just completely banned to use during a match.

so far i vote

Contact Grenades: These things are just plain pathetic some people throw them first even before the gun fight starts which this is a huge NO NO.

watched kujos stream
shook my head at what my infantry guys have to deal with

good luck gettin ppl in this game to NOT use crutches, dont think it will happen
SyN dont use it much we actually prefer to use them as intended and prefer gungame

this is why i made that feedback post on how stupid DUST is giving ppl 3 lethal nades when every other game gives u only 1 and in those u dont carry around something to get more refilled lol
Did dust even need a 2nd nubtube? MDs were fine dunno why ccp felt the need for flaylocks especially when the splash is dumb lol

Chromosone was such a better game skill wise.

yeah chromosome was good. i remember when having a prototype actually meant something. now you can get killed so easily wearing 400 shields on your suit while in chromosome 400+ shields was actually a pretty sturdy suit. Also when you skilled into something like reload speed in chromosome it really made a difference unlike right now where you just get 3% and to max it out you need almost 2 million skill points to barely feel the difference of a whopping 15% like..... trolololol. now we have all of these new changes that cant be changed such as the 10% damage that CCP implemented couple months ago.

So essentially, you don't want to give up fused because it might give you a slight disadvantage? And will only accept banning fused after you can use core locus?

LOL, really? Are you truly that self-centered? I'm sure plenty on both sides will have to sacrifice not to use fused or flaylocks. Just accept the sacrifice, plenty others have to as well.

Cause you know we would win if we allowed this to go through. So what your telling me, is that if Eon. corporations win their matches against Hellstorm, it's because they simply use OP weapons to do so?

I will say this once and likely only once.... +1 Kalante. A new level of respect from me to you bro. You and broadway (respect mutual there since day 1) are the only hellscrubs that have stuck to principle by avoiding the crutch that magically made Hellstorm relevant. I feel sorry for you 2 when the flaylock is nerfed and ccp comes to their senses about contact nades. Cause at that point hellstorm returns to irrelevancy. Burkhart will have an aneurism and exmaple will find another corp where he can do his thing.

Pathetic so many of you have found a crutch to lean on and rely on it. So many of you actually used to be good players.

That's ok tho...your gimmick cracker jack box method will be taken from you, and im sure u will win a match or 2 cause of your inflated kills and spam, but u guys have really lost a lot of respect from me. In all honesty I think outer heaven secretly planned what happened to find a way out. I pity IE for getting roped into the circus act you call league of infamy

Anyway when u get tired of midgets on tricycles as your main attraction you 2 gimme a ring.

So listen.
We talked about this before the first match, there was rumblings of a "no flaylock/fused honor rule". I was pretty skeptical. We had a few guys switch fits to SMG... That lasted about until you captured B and there was just straight CFP spam. A few of our guys that use it as a side arm switched back, because if including Blizz the Lion on your roster wasn't a clear indication of intent, the kill feed was.

There are a few of you that stuck to their guns. Broadway and Kalente are two of them(mad respect as well). Soul is not. At least it took him one match to switch from balac's to core flaylock. I personally have 1 fit with fused locus, ended up throwing 2, and they got me 1 kill. I'm sorry to the guy I gibbed with it. Might have been you kalente.

I don't believe the majority of your team would give up CFP/fused... Why would you? The number of guys that use CFP on your team vastly outnumbered those on ours. And it was very effective. And when we have fought SI and OH, they were very effective with CFP as well. Why would you give up your most effective weapon and receive only a minor benefit through our discontinued use? I don't believe it for a second. Making an honor pact that can only result in YOUR team doing worse...

You brought Blizz the Lion to both battles and then have the audacity to proclaim that WE over utilize the core flaylock?

Either this is a ploy to get the very few of us who decided to fight fire with fire to switch to less effective weapons, even for one death OR There are excuses being made.

This isn't the least bit directed at those of you who resist the cheese. You know who are.

Cause you know we would win if we allowed this to go through. So what your telling me, is that if Eon. corporations win their matches against Hellstorm, it's because they simply use OP weapons to do so?

We would of had a good 1 v 1, but you have to be a little *** boy and use fused grenades and flaylock to make up your lack of gun game ReGnYum.

Is this a joke? every time I turn a corner and run into a hellstorm member, their first reaction is to spam fused nades before even thinking about shooting anything, and 9/10 times it ends up being a flaylock.......how can you sit here and talk about gun game and skill when you've been doing the same talentless crap the entire time?

We would of had a good 1 v 1, but you have to be a little *** boy and use fused grenades and flaylock to make up your lack of gun game ReGnYum.

We would of had a good 1 v 1, but you have to be a little *** boy and use fused grenades and flaylock to make up your lack of gun game ReGnYum.

I've been keeping it real since day 1 on this game, No mass drivers, core nades, lasers, tanks, forges, flaylocks and all those other easy to kill weapons. Duvolle all day every day

Note: I'm on vacation right now but ill be back in 4 days. I've been out of Pc for 3-4 weeks already ;( So much has happened! I just don't wanna miss this war!

What?

Next to the Flaylock and Fused, the Duvolle AR is the easiest weapon to use in the game, its always been like that.

What?

Next to the Flaylock and Fused, the Duvolle AR is the easiest weapon to use in the game, its always been like that.

I'll take a game that revolves around AR's (like 90% of fps out there) than a game that revolves around explosions. Really dont understand the all the AR514 and i hate AR *****... thats what all FPS games are basically lol.

Wait were we watching the same game? Because the match I was in your hiding behind boxes and shiii spamming nades :O

What?

Next to the Flaylock and Fused, the Duvolle AR is the easiest weapon to use in the game, its always been like that.