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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:16:00 -
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I created an alt a few days ago and decided to spec into Gallente HAVs. I transfer 5 million isk from my main to get started.
At first I thought tanking was a piece of cake (I was farming kills at the academy), then reality set in after I got int a real match where people could actually kill me. I didn't have a problem with being blown up because I am new at it . I had a problem with not being about to turn a profit. The price of tanks is super high. I now see why tankers complain about being blown up. If you get blown up 2 times, that's a 1 million Isk loss. People earn about 240,000 per game which means you need to play 4 games to make it up.
I never new how much I was costing tankers when I blew up their tanks. This experience has made me feel sorry for tankers.
I absolutely don't support nerfing AV (I'm a forge gunner), but CCP should lower the price of vehicles. This would help both AV players and tankers.
AV players will have more targets to take out, and tankers will be able to turn a profit.
My fit for anyone interested was:
80GJ Compressed Blaster 20GJ Scattered Blaster x2 Militia Active Heat Sink Militia Powergrid Expansion Unit x3 Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates.
Some tips on how best to fit my tank would be appreciated. |

ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
845
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:20:00 -
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active armor hardeners 2x are a must for armor and should always be fitted and a lower tier plate would help you fit them. |

Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1848
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:21:00 -
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My first tip would be to lose the compressed Blaster. Scattered or Stabilized should be the only ones you're looking at, more damage or more range. |

CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:27:00 -
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ladwar wrote:active armor hardeners 2x are a must for armor and should always be fitted and a lower tier plate would help you fit them.
I will give the armor hardeners a try. What about the armor repairer? Should I keep that or should I get the light version. |

CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:30:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:I created an alt a few days ago and decided to spec into Gallente HAVs. I transfer 5 million isk from my main to get started.
At first I thought tanking was a piece of cake (I was farming kills at the academy), then reality set in after I got int a real match where people could actually kill me. I didn't have a problem with being blown up because I am new at it . I had a problem with not being about to turn a profit. The price of tanks is super high. I now see why tankers complain about being blown up. If you get blown up 2 times, that's a 1 million Isk loss. People earn about 240,000 per game which means you need to play 4 games to make it up.
I never new how much I was costing tankers when I blew up their tanks. This experience has made me feel sorry for tankers.
I absolutely don't support nerfing AV (I'm a forge gunner), but CCP should lower the price of vehicles. This would help both AV players and tankers.
AV players will have more targets to take out, and tankers will be able to turn a profit.
My fit for anyone interested was:
80GJ Compressed Blaster 20GJ Scattered Blaster x2 Militia Active Heat Sink Militia Powergrid Expansion Unit x3 Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates.
Some tips on how best to fit my tank would be appreciated. That's your fit on a Madrugar? Blaster's your first mistake if you're new to it.
2 AT-1 ADV Cycled Missile 1 Particle Accelerator 1 Heavy IGL Repper 1 Beta Powergrid Expansion 2 Carapace Armor Hardeners 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre plates
You're welcome
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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:30:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:My first tip would be to lose the compressed Blaster. Scattered or Stabilized should be the only ones you're looking at, more damage or more range.
I will give the stabilized a try. I chose the compressed because that's the one I always get killed from when I'm forge gunning. |

CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:32:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote: That's your fit on a Madrugar? Blaster's your first mistake if you're new to it.
2 AT-1 ADV Cycled Missile 1 Particle Accelerator 1 Heavy IGL Repper 1 Beta Powergrid Expansion 2 Carapace Armor Hardeners 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre plates
You're welcome
I like the blasters. They feel super accurate. |

Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:59:00 -
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So out of all the times you couldve specced into HAV, you chose to spec during an event where AVers are rampant everywhere to devour every installation known to mankind. |

Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
712
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:01:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:So out of all the times you couldve specced into HAV, you chose to spec during an event where AVers are rampant everywhere to devour every installation known to mankind.
This, oh god... |

TITANIC Xangore
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
70
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:03:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:I created an alt a few days ago and decided to spec into Gallente HAVs. I transfer 5 million isk from my main to get started.
At first I thought tanking was a piece of cake (I was farming kills at the academy), then reality set in after I got int a real match where people could actually kill me. I didn't have a problem with being blown up because I am new at it . I had a problem with not being about to turn a profit. The price of tanks is super high. I now see why tankers complain about being blown up. If you get blown up 2 times, that's a 1 million Isk loss. People earn about 240,000 per game which means you need to play 4 games to make it up.
I never new how much I was costing tankers when I blew up their tanks. This experience has made me feel sorry for tankers.
That's on the baby Madrugers, Mine are around 550k isk, however there are others in my corp that the fits run around 1.7m isk. Lose one or 2 of those in a match and your looking at a loss for days of matches. |
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R F Gyro
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
391
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:30:00 -
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CCP are trying to balance tanks vs AV using ISK. It can't possibly work for both pub matches and PC - someone is always going to be unhappy. |

TITANIC Xangore
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
70
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:40:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:CCP are trying to balance tanks vs AV using ISK. It can't possibly work for both pub matches and PC - someone is always going to be unhappy.
Great, then charge a helluva lot more for Avnades, forge guns, and swarms. Make the militia swarms do very little damage to a full grown tank, and make it so an AV grenade doesn't track my movements. |

CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:49:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:CCP are trying to balance tanks vs AV using ISK. It can't possibly work for both pub matches and PC - someone is always going to be unhappy.
I don't see how making tanks cheaper will make anyone unhappy. |

Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1231
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:52:00 -
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TITANIC Xangore wrote:R F Gyro wrote:CCP are trying to balance tanks vs AV using ISK. It can't possibly work for both pub matches and PC - someone is always going to be unhappy. Great, then charge a helluva lot more for Avnades, forge guns, and swarms. Make the militia swarms do very little damage to a full grown tank, and make it so an AV grenade doesn't track my movements. My AV suit already costs 130k..... |

Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1042
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Posted - 2013.07.12 22:58:00 -
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I won't cry much if tanks are made cheaper. more for me to shoot. |

ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
869
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:16:00 -
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If they dropped the price of tanks by 50%... could you imagine the tank spam? Oh my.. the pub tank spam lol.
But then maybe there would be a reason for dedicated AV players in every match as well! To keep down LAV murder taxis and to suppress/destroy HAVs.
At this point I totally support a reduction in price on tanks.
Maybe later on they can make something like a 'Behemoth-Class Attack Vehicles" which requires 3 people to drive it (one driver, one gunner, and one vehicle module user) and these things can just be beastly nasty crazy as they will require coordination and 3 skilled pilots. |

Masshole Joe
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:20:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:If they dropped the price of tanks by 50%... could you imagine the tank spam? Oh my.. the pub tank spam lol.
But then maybe there would be a reason for dedicated AV players in every match as well! To keep down LAV murder taxis and to suppress/destroy HAVs.
At this point I totally support a reduction in price on tanks.
Maybe later on they can make something like a 'Behemoth-Class Attack Vehicles" which requires 3 people to drive it (one driver, one gunner, and one vehicle module user) and these things can just be beastly nasty crazy as they will require coordination and 3 skilled pilots.
I have this already, it's called a Madrugar. I only call it if I have corpmates in my squad, and two manage the turrets, and a sniper watches for AV signatures. If folks try to get close and spam av nades, my gunners hop out and pwn em.
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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:22:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:If they dropped the price of tanks by 50%... could you imagine the tank spam? Oh my.. the pub tank spam lol.
But then maybe there would be a reason for dedicated AV players in every match as well! To keep down LAV murder taxis and to suppress/destroy HAVs.
At this point I totally support a reduction in price on tanks.
Maybe later on they can make something like a 'Behemoth-Class Attack Vehicles" which requires 3 people to drive it (one driver, one gunner, and one vehicle module user) and these things can just be beastly nasty crazy as they will require coordination and 3 skilled pilots.
I would also like to see more tanks on the field. Sometimes I get into matches where I'm useless because no one is using vehicles. I don't like FG roof farming infantry, so I just sit back and AFK matches with no vehicles. |

CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
466
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:33:00 -
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Try this: 80GJ Scattered Blaster 20GJ Scattered Blaster x2 Militia Active Heat Sink Militia Powergrid Expansion Unit x3 Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates.
Not a bad fir for someone with little SP in tanks.
Would you mind posting this on my post? Your input is very valuable to us. |

CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
466
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:34:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:CuuCH Crusher wrote:I created an alt a few days ago and decided to spec into Gallente HAVs. I transfer 5 million isk from my main to get started.
At first I thought tanking was a piece of cake (I was farming kills at the academy), then reality set in after I got int a real match where people could actually kill me. I didn't have a problem with being blown up because I am new at it . I had a problem with not being about to turn a profit. The price of tanks is super high. I now see why tankers complain about being blown up. If you get blown up 2 times, that's a 1 million Isk loss. People earn about 240,000 per game which means you need to play 4 games to make it up.
I never new how much I was costing tankers when I blew up their tanks. This experience has made me feel sorry for tankers.
I absolutely don't support nerfing AV (I'm a forge gunner), but CCP should lower the price of vehicles. This would help both AV players and tankers.
AV players will have more targets to take out, and tankers will be able to turn a profit.
My fit for anyone interested was:
80GJ Compressed Blaster 20GJ Scattered Blaster x2 Militia Active Heat Sink Militia Powergrid Expansion Unit x3 Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates.
Some tips on how best to fit my tank would be appreciated. That's your fit on a Madrugar? Blaster's your first mistake if you're new to it. 2 AT-1 ADV Cycled Missile 1 Particle Accelerator 1 Heavy IGL Repper 1 Beta Powergrid Expansion 2 Carapace Armor Hardeners 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre plates You're welcome
He doesn't have the SP for that. All I'd say is swap out the compressed blaster for the scattered. |
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Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
72
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Posted - 2013.07.12 23:37:00 -
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More tanks means less LAV's. But it also means more stuff exploding. A good thing. |

CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:21:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote: That's your fit on a Madrugar? Blaster's your first mistake if you're new to it.
2 AT-1 ADV Cycled Missile 1 Particle Accelerator 1 Heavy IGL Repper 1 Beta Powergrid Expansion 2 Carapace Armor Hardeners 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre plates
You're welcome
He doesn't have the SP for that. All I'd say is swap out the compressed blaster for the scattered.
True I only have 670,000 lifetime sp. I'm working on my hardeners right now. |

CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:28:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TITANIC Xangore wrote:R F Gyro wrote:CCP are trying to balance tanks vs AV using ISK. It can't possibly work for both pub matches and PC - someone is always going to be unhappy. Great, then charge a helluva lot more for Avnades, forge guns, and swarms. Make the militia swarms do very little damage to a full grown tank, and make it so an AV grenade doesn't track my movements. My AV suit already costs 130k..... So? |

CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.13 00:31:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:CuuCH Crusher wrote:I created an alt a few days ago and decided to spec into Gallente HAVs. I transfer 5 million isk from my main to get started.
At first I thought tanking was a piece of cake (I was farming kills at the academy), then reality set in after I got int a real match where people could actually kill me. I didn't have a problem with being blown up because I am new at it . I had a problem with not being about to turn a profit. The price of tanks is super high. I now see why tankers complain about being blown up. If you get blown up 2 times, that's a 1 million Isk loss. People earn about 240,000 per game which means you need to play 4 games to make it up.
I never new how much I was costing tankers when I blew up their tanks. This experience has made me feel sorry for tankers.
I absolutely don't support nerfing AV (I'm a forge gunner), but CCP should lower the price of vehicles. This would help both AV players and tankers.
AV players will have more targets to take out, and tankers will be able to turn a profit.
My fit for anyone interested was:
80GJ Compressed Blaster 20GJ Scattered Blaster x2 Militia Active Heat Sink Militia Powergrid Expansion Unit x3 Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator 180mm Reinforced Steel Plates.
Some tips on how best to fit my tank would be appreciated. That's your fit on a Madrugar? Blaster's your first mistake if you're new to it. 2 AT-1 ADV Cycled Missile 1 Particle Accelerator 1 Heavy IGL Repper 1 Beta Powergrid Expansion 2 Carapace Armor Hardeners 180mm Reinforced Nanofibre plates You're welcome He doesn't have the SP for that. All I'd say is swap out the compressed blaster for the scattered. It's a grinding/learning process. |
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