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        |  Spec Ops Cipher
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.07.12 16:56:00 -
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 There's no defence against them!
 
 I just got picked up 5 times in a row, and travelled nearly 30m. Died instantly everytime lol.
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        |  Doc Noah
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 238
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 16:57:00 -
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 Stay dead
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        |  dannyMasters11
 Vherokior Combat Logistics
 Minmatar Republic
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 16:58:00 -
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 Spec Ops Cipher wrote:There's no defence against them! 
 I just got picked up 5 times in a row, and travelled nearly 30m. Died instantly everytime lol.
 
 
 You are funny, I dont get it?
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        |  Spec Ops Cipher
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
 233
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:01:00 -
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 Hit by LLAV
 Picked up
 Hit by same LLAV
 Picked up, started to run
 Shot down
 Picked up, made it to cover
 Killed by a flux
 Picked up
 Shot to death (again)
 Picked up
 Orbitalled
 
 
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        |  Asher Night
 187.
 League of Infamy
 
 392
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:04:00 -
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 >There's no defense against them.
 
 Clearly has the horrible comprehension skills that could only come from an American public education. This game isn't like B3 where you can accept the revive or not.
 
 I can't tell you how many people I have pro ressed who sent me hatemail afterward, lol. Its basically like killing your own team except you get 60 points instead of 50.
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        |  Seymor Krelborn
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 132
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:08:00 -
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 nanite injectors are without equal the worst item in the game.
 
 most people don't use them correctly i.e. not clearing the area before rezzing you or rezzing you right in front of the sniper that just popped you in the first place.
 and the other half the time I welcome the death cause im either out of ammo or want to change fits...
 
 I say remove them all together or give us the option to confirm before being revived
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        |  Doc Noah
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 238
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:13:00 -
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 Asher Night wrote:>There's no defense against them. Clearly has the horrible comprehension skills that could only come from an American public education. This game isn't like B3 where you can accept the revive or not. I can't tell you how many people I have pro ressed who sent me hatemail afterward, lol. Its basically like killing your own team except you get 60 points instead of 50. 
 Eh..not gonna defend our public education since it is pretty bad but clearly you didnt get the joke
 
 Hint: Play dead, maybe they'll leave you alone
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        |  ZDub 303
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 867
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:14:00 -
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 Defo could use an 'Accept Revive' option. Enter to call for help, Enter to accept revive, backspace to bleed out.
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        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 706
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:17:00 -
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 I use them correctly All the time, they are for me to gain points, and me reviving a sniper a dozen times in row and seeing his head explode a dozen times is absolutely hilarious and a quick leap in hundreds upon hundreds of points.
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        |  XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
 Storm Wind Strikeforce
 Caldari State
 
 82
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:23:00 -
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 the nanite injector is fine
 the medics NEED to learn to clear the area before picking you up
 the medics need to learn not to pick up someone in a wide open area
 and maybe the whole animation when you get picked up needs to be sped up
 also I wish they would give us a little play with the bleed out screen
 so we can call out enemys or nearing dangers as a squad logi's approaching
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        |  Andrew Sheaffer
 ZionTCD
 
 40
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:30:00 -
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 there do what they are soppoud to do crying a respaw befor they can rezz you.
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        |  BrownEye1129
 Sver true blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:52:00 -
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 Has it really been that long since needles worked properly that everyone forgot how to powerslide when getting picked up? Saves you from getting sniped.
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1395
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:56:00 -
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 well, I agree some logis are doing it recklessly but come on. Heaven forbid someone try and be useful to the team at the risk of your precious KD/R.
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        |  Jin Robot
 Foxhound Corporation
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1395
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 17:59:00 -
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 Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I use them correctly All the time, they are for me to gain points, and me reviving a sniper a dozen times in row and seeing his head explode a dozen times is absolutely hilarious and a quick leap in hundreds upon hundreds of points.
 Only when I'm running and gunning in a squad do I "use them correctly" the way you silly fellows want.
 With that attitude I am amazed a real corp hasnt snatched you up.
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        |  RKKR
 The Southern Legion
 RISE of LEGION
 
 207
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 18:49:00 -
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 So dying is the new supply depot nowadays?
 
 LOL @ people that think they still get points after a second revive.
 
 LOL @ people that care about KDR.
 
 Bring on the crazy ISK-prizes I say.
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        |  Booby Tuesdays
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 160
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 18:55:00 -
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 The problem is the d-bags that are running around with 30% revives. You have no chance in hell to get away, let alone shoot back with that little health. My 80% revives? They have changed the tide of a firefight many a time.
 
 An option to accept revive would be awesome. It's amazing how many mercs only care about the points, and don't care that a sniper or LLAV are licking their chops, waiting for another easy kill.
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        |  Stupid Blueberry
 Nova Corps Marines
 Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
 
 25
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 19:30:00 -
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 Jin Robot wrote:well, I agree some logis are doing it recklessly but come on. Heaven forbid someone try and be useful to the team at the risk of your precious KD/R. 
 Thank you, sir o7
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        |  Oso Peresoso
 RisingSuns
 
 298
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 19:35:00 -
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 who gives a flying ****? Oh wait, does it make you look less elite at the end of match screen? Does it harm your perfectly manicured KDR ? Even if you die, squad points for your team's next orbital.
 
 Want a confirm res option? Too bad, imagine how that would look for the sniper watching it happen. It would look stupid.
 
 Should people try to use them only once the area is safe ? Sure, most of the time. Does it really matter if they don't? No.
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        |  Vin Mora
 Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
 Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
 
 38
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 19:39:00 -
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 RKKR wrote:LOL @ people that think they still get points after a second revive. I have gotten points for reviving the same person multiple times. I think it was a total of 4 times in a row, he eventually got into cover after the forth time.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 3267
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 19:40:00 -
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 The nanite injectors should only work if the person who is bleeding out asks for it.
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        |  Logi Stician
 The Vanguardians
 
 17
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 20:05:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:The nanite injectors should only work if the person who is bleeding out asks for it. 
 And asks for it with a written in game correspondence, that the rezzer must stop, read said request, and send a courteous reply letting the recipient know that the request was received and will be administered just as soon as the medic has single handedly removed every possible threat that might present itself to the soon to be revived.
 
 Or, I stick you with my 50 or 80% NI and rep you as soon as you stand and start running for cover, so you can go on murdering raspberries for great justice. Need ammo? Logi Stician logistics solutions comes fully equipped with all the sweet, tasty bullets, grenades, rockets and potatoes a depleted ally could possibly want. Did you want to change suits? Sorry, can't help you. I'm not a mind reader and I'm not going to lose sleep over whether or not i should've rezzed sgt murderface when he went down in my AO.
 
 If yer dead and I can safely stick ya, I'm gonna stick ya.
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        |  Logi Bro
 Greatness Achieved Through Training
 EoN.
 
 1815
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 20:09:00 -
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 Needs to be a cooldown on it, TBH, not only do poor noobs that don't understand why they are coming back to life with 30% health die constantly, but it also prevents the large majority of good logisticians to get WP for revive; I always take a good look around, peer around nearby corners, and then by the time I get to my team-mates body, he's already been revived (and sometimes has already died) by a starter assault fit with a nanite injector equipped who was grinding WP.
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        |  RKKR
 The Southern Legion
 RISE of LEGION
 
 207
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 20:50:00 -
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 @Booby Tuesdays: Yeah, it sucks to see a random picking up a blueberry with a 30% a split second before you jam your proto-injector in him. A MLT or PRO Nanite injector gives the same WP, this is not actually true because one can get more WP by repairing the freshly 30% revived blueberry. I hope they will look into this in one of these patches.
 
 @Vin Mora: Well I guess you were lucky, but that isn't how it should be at the moment. Did you noticed it on other occassions?
 
 I also like to add that clearing the field is not really necessary all the time, but it also doesn't mean you have to go and act like a fool. Having a PRO Nanite Injector for this is a good idea, but don't be foolish and realise that a shield-tanker may have some flimsy armor. A nice back-up squad, awareness,... are also a great help for doing it. Sometimes when you get hardcore on the reviving (I like these kind of games) the bluedots will even wait on a revive after a while if they notice you doing a good job.
 
 But to get back on topic: the main problem is that people get revived in bad situations or insta-revived over and over again...because of the reward (WP or just being a *******). Common Suggestions to counter this are'
 
 - Making a bleed out option on the kill-screen
 - Make revives only possible if the players asks for it
 - Only give a WP-reward if the target stays alive for X seconds.
 
 I suggest something like this:
 
 You get shot down and your dropsuit goes into a sort of hibernation-mode to keep you alive, your HUD dissappears to save some power. You can hear your heartbeat which goes fainter and fainter as the bleed-out timer expires (more like chromosome). Besides the count-down timer you can see a message to activate the self-terminating procedure (bleeding out).
 
 [Would it be cool if the enemies can hack your dropsuit while in this mode to gain a extra clone?]
 
 If you didn't decide to bleed-out you can wait untill a person injects (the reviver) you with nanites (the reviver gets WP). You HUD shows up again with an extra option (you can still end your miserable life) to arise from the dead. If you do decide to stand up again the reviver gets an additional amounts of WP.
 
 What do you think?
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1111
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 21:34:00 -
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 We aren't given a choice. Sometimes, I want to bleed out only to be brought back up and killed again. Logi's don't clear the area, and you don't have time to select a spawn. It's very annoying.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 Bullet Cluster
 
 1111
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 21:35:00 -
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 Seymor Krelborn wrote:nanite injectors are without equal the worst item in the game. most people don't use them correctly i.e. not clearing the area before rezzing you or rezzing you right in front of the sniper that just popped you in the first place. and the other half the time I welcome the death cause im either out of ammo or want to change fits... I say remove them all together or give us the option to confirm before being revived  
 Option to accept revival, please.
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        |  Cenex Langly
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 21:39:00 -
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 Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Hit by LLAVPicked up
 Hit by same LLAV
 Picked up, started to run
 Shot down
 Picked up, made it to cover
 Killed by a flux
 Picked up
 Shot to death (again)
 Picked up
 Orbitalled
 
 
 
 Your suffering pleases me.
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        |  Cenex Langly
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 55
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 21:39:00 -
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 Forlorn Destrier wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:nanite injectors are without equal the worst item in the game. most people don't use them correctly i.e. not clearing the area before rezzing you or rezzing you right in front of the sniper that just popped you in the first place. and the other half the time I welcome the death cause im either out of ammo or want to change fits... I say remove them all together or give us the option to confirm before being revived  Option to accept revival, please. 
 Absolutely agree. OMG, some logi's are ********...
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        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 712
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 21:49:00 -
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 Jin Robot wrote:With that attitude I am amazed a real corp hasnt snatched you up. 
 Honestly not interested in running with any "real corp," even with invitations. I already have a pool of people from another game and RL who I squad up with.
 
 I'll be interested in "Real corps" if matchmaking starts enforcing it or when PC starts becoming entertaining enough on a personal level for me to ever bother with it.
 
 In EVE corps have a purpose and have tangible benefits, in DUST they are more a social aspect with no tangible benefits outside of PC or making it easy to "squad up," something I wish they'd fix.
 
 Additonally, if you want people to start playing modes properly and start caring outside of personal/squad gain, then there needs to be an extra reward for winning a match.
 
 Currently with a cut-throat "Our squad first" mentality there is no incentive to win a match in pub matches, and the main concern is simply scoring WPs getting kills and not dying, to hell with your random team mates. Winning/losing changes nothing at the moment in pub matches.
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        |  Seymor Krelborn
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 136
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 22:01:00 -
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 Logi Stician wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:The nanite injectors should only work if the person who is bleeding out asks for it. And asks for it with a written in game correspondence, that the rezzer must stop, read said request, and send a courteous reply letting the recipient know that the request was received and will be administered just as soon as the medic has single handedly removed every possible threat that might present itself to the soon to be revived.  Or, I stick you with my 50 or 80% NI and rep you as soon as you stand and start running for cover, so you can go on murdering raspberries for great justice. Need ammo? Logi Stician logistics solutions comes fully equipped with all the sweet, tasty bullets, grenades, rockets and potatoes a depleted ally could possibly want. Did you want to change suits? Sorry, can't help you. I'm not a mind reader and I'm not going to lose sleep over whether or not i should've rezzed sgt murderface when he went down in my AO. If yer dead and I can safely stick ya, I'm gonna stick ya.  
 
 I liked the 1st paragraph.... you lost me on the 2nd....
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        |  TITANIC Xangore
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 70
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.12 22:04:00 -
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 Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Hit by LLAVPicked up
 Hit by same LLAV
 Picked up, started to run
 Shot down
 Picked up, made it to cover
 Killed by a flux
 Picked up
 Shot to death (again)
 Picked up
 Orbitalled
 
 
 
 
 Sounds like someone had a bad day...
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