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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:48:00 -
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As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
155
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:35:00 -
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As a Logibich, you have plenty of tools to service your feel troops and gain WP with. Why does this need to be one of them, for YOU?
Kidding. I think AS users should get 10 WP per scan. It's almost a waste of time, at the moment. |
Ordrian Maxus
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:23:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. I completely agree! |
WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization
28
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Posted - 2013.07.13 03:40:00 -
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+1 for this thread
14 WP seems fine |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
74
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Posted - 2013.07.13 04:06:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime.
You are getting plenty of reward for it.
Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted?
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.13 04:12:00 -
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Daylon Daxx wrote:You are getting plenty of reward for it.
Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted?
Yes I am getting points for above the said, but thats not the point. Sometimes I often exclusively run the Active Scanner but the point here is; currently there is no rewarded WPGÇÖs for using the Active Scanner and no real incentive for anyone to use or skill into it.
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Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.07.13 04:43:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Daylon Daxx wrote:You are getting plenty of reward for it.
Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted?
Yes I am getting points for above the said, but thats not the point. Sometimes I often exclusively run the Active Scanner but the point here is; currently there is no rewarded WPGÇÖs for using the Active Scanner and no real incentive for anyone to use or skill into it.
Point taken (no pun intended). I just see the possibility of exploitation.
But if you're are a serious Scanner user for squad benefit (like you are saying) then spending 3 levels into the Active Scanner skill should be required for WP reward.
Maybe giving 10-15 WP on an advanced scanner and/or 15-20 WP for a Proto scanner and nothing for lvl2 or below. This would deter anyone using the scanners just for "cheap" WP, and in turn make you more valuable to your squad.
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
278
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Posted - 2013.07.13 04:58:00 -
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Daylon Daxx wrote:Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. You are getting plenty of reward for it. Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted? A rather narrow minded view isn't it? I personally run assault and I use the active scanner, I also would not mind a reward.
As for the OP's comment on GÇ£No margin for errorGÇ¥ being useseless, it isn't. I have seen GÇ£Some margin of errorGÇ¥ only once, but I believe this is down to nobody having skills or modules in profile dampening. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.13 05:14:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:I have seen GÇ£Some margin of errorGÇ¥ only once, but I believe this is down to nobody having skills or modules in profile dampening.
Interesting, I have always wondered if it was due to something like that. + 1 from me. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.07.13 05:17:00 -
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+1 |
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Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.07.13 05:20:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:Daylon Daxx wrote:Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. You are getting plenty of reward for it. Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted? A rather narrow minded view isn't it? I personally run assault and I use the active scanner, I also would not mind a reward. As for the OP's comment on GÇ£No margin for errorGÇ¥ being useseless, it isn't. I have seen GÇ£Some margin of errorGÇ¥ only once, but I believe this is down to nobody having skills or modules in profile dampening.
Narrow minded? I answered the OP based SPECIFICALLY on HIS role in the game, not roles in general.
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darkiller240
INGLORIOUS-INQUISITION
70
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Posted - 2013.07.13 06:19:00 -
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+1 what about the scanner on the viecles ? |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.07.13 06:34:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:+1 what about the scanner on the viecles ?
As far as IGÇÖm aware they work the same and should gain the same rewards. Although the distances with Vehicle Active Scanners are slightly out of alignment; 100 meters in a vehicle, feels and acts like 25-30 meters. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
280
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Posted - 2013.07.13 10:42:00 -
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Daylon Daxx wrote:RINON114 wrote:Daylon Daxx wrote:Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. You are getting plenty of reward for it. Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted? A rather narrow minded view isn't it? I personally run assault and I use the active scanner, I also would not mind a reward. As for the OP's comment on GÇ£No margin for errorGÇ¥ being useseless, it isn't. I have seen GÇ£Some margin of errorGÇ¥ only once, but I believe this is down to nobody having skills or modules in profile dampening. Narrow minded? I answered the OP based SPECIFICALLY on HIS role in the game, not roles in general. Specifically - A word synonymous with being narrow or closed (specific). It should be fairly obvious that other people use this piece of kit, and that the OP's situation is not the only one that could ever happen. Think about options before you post.
I hope you have learned something this day.
As for vehicle scanners I agree with the previous poster who said the scanners feel like 30m, they really don't stretch too far. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
194
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Posted - 2013.07.13 12:57:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote: Yes I am getting points for above the said, but thats not the point. Sometimes I often exclusively run the Active Scanner but the point here is; currently there is no rewarded WPGÇÖs for using the Active Scanner and no real incentive for anyone to use or skill into it.
I want to spec into it because it's a different equipment and there's a lot of variants in the proto section. Are they useful? |
Tarsious Jones
Regime Of Shadow Marines
33
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:00:00 -
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I agree that scan assists should be implemented, along with wp for mcru spawns, and repairs on vehicles/installations. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
130
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:11:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:I want to spec into it because it's a different equipment and there's a lot of variants in the proto section. Are they useful?
Very useful I can't believe I never used them before. Once activated it sends a slow pulse in an arc in front of you at 90-30 degrees (depending on the scanner), any enemy player caught in that pulse gets highlighted for everyone minimap for a limited amount of time. (The advanced A-45 Quantum holds them on there for 16 seconds!) There's a cooldown between usages too.
It's great to use if you're running solo; looking to hack objectives, use it to see if anyone is hiding around the corner or to find out where is best to drop an Orbital. |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:57:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:Daylon Daxx wrote:RINON114 wrote:Daylon Daxx wrote:Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ is annoying; as it works everytime. You are getting plenty of reward for it. Aren't you already getting points for rezzing, repping, dropping hives and uplinks, when your squad go after these enemies you spotted? A rather narrow minded view isn't it? I personally run assault and I use the active scanner, I also would not mind a reward. As for the OP's comment on GÇ£No margin for errorGÇ¥ being useseless, it isn't. I have seen GÇ£Some margin of errorGÇ¥ only once, but I believe this is down to nobody having skills or modules in profile dampening. Narrow minded? I answered the OP based SPECIFICALLY on HIS role in the game, not roles in general. Specifically - A word synonymous with being narrow or closed (specific). It should be fairly obvious that other people use this piece of kit, and that the OP's situation is not the only one that could ever happen. Think about options before you post. I hope you have learned something this day. As for vehicle scanners I agree with the previous poster who said the scanners feel like 30m, they really don't stretch too far.
I don't need your smug BS words of wisdom...pal. I've been on this earth 48 years and don't have put up with the arrogant, condescending crap your dishing out.
Other than taking swipes at me, you have contributed nothing to this thread. I, on the other hand, came up with a reasonable suggestion in regards to Active Scanners, on my second post.
Stick to the topic, Junior...
I do not need an English lesson. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
133
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:13:00 -
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I would prefer we stick to the subject at hand and stop this silly bickering..... At the end of the day its all constructive criticism and helps develop ideas for ourselves and CCP to develop upon. |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:38:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:I would prefer we stick to the subject at hand and stop this silly bickering..... At the end of the day its all constructive criticism and helps develop ideas for ourselves and CCP to develop upon.
I agree and stated so.
But I do not appreciate being talked down and lectured too, either. Which I think I made quite clear in the post above. Any further indiscretions on his part will be reported instead.
And Lt. Royal, you have my apologies. |
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Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
67
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Posted - 2013.07.13 22:53:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:As a Logi bro, I stay behind the lines; repping, ammo dumping and reviving but mostly I use the Active Scanner; to help spot where the opposition is and see if they are looking to flank left or right. I get my squad and team a ton of kills spotting targets but yet, I get no reward for it!
What IGÇÖm suggesting is that; being rewarded war points for spotting enemy players (as long as a team member gets the kill on that spot). Something little like 10 WPGÇÖs to actually make the Active Scanner seem worthwhile. I guess it would be similar to how spotting works in battlefield 3.
Edit: This should also apply for Vehicle Active Scanners.
P.S. The GÇÿno margin for errorGÇÖ on the equipment Scanner is annoying; as it works everytime.
I think it should work like the rep tool
+10 for any scanned enemies and +10 for one of them being killed (scans last 2 to around 20 seconds), this should balance the variants of active scanners. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
135
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:44:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:+10 for any scanned enemies
This sounds way OP and a lot of people would exploit the points. For instance you could just sit back in the red-line and farm WPGÇÖs without ever joining the fight and everyone on the other side could do the same. It would just turn into a battle of who can scan the most etc |
Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War
2242
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:54:00 -
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Already suggested by yours truly, and the devs confirmed they're working on it. |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
67
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:56:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:+10 for any scanned enemies This sounds way OP and a lot of people would exploit the points. For instance you could just sit back in the red-line and farm WPGÇÖs without ever joining the fight and everyone on the other side could do the same. It would just turn into a battle of who can scan the most etc
You can put a cool down on wp gains ike the repair tool |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
136
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Posted - 2013.07.14 01:17:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Lt Royal wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:+10 for any scanned enemies This sounds way OP and a lot of people would exploit the points. For instance you could just sit back in the red-line and farm WPGÇÖs without ever joining the fight and everyone on the other side could do the same. It would just turn into a battle of who can scan the most etc You can put a cool down on wp gains ike the repair tool
No, its would still be OP. And then you would get people [Requesting] for the WP cool down to be nerfed. I think sticking to 10% of a kill; 5 WPGÇÖs is enough.
The reason why I requested about this; was to give some recognition for the use of the item. Not to make it into something where people could exploit and farm WPGÇÖs out of it. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
136
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Already suggested by yours truly, and the devs confirmed they're working on it.
Don't suppose you have a linky to your posting or reply from dev?
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Rian CuThalion
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
80
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:20:00 -
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+1 to OP. Would give me additional incentive to run them instead of [hives or uplinks] |
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