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Val Berg Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:15:00 - [1] - Quote I have noticed, with the same gear, before the patch, I would get an average of 10,000+ SP per battle. Since the 1.2 patch, it seems the most I get is 4,700 SP per battle. I think those values are for a loss, including the passive SP bonus, less the active SP bonus. I am wondering what has changed since the patch as I could not find any reference to this in the patch notes. Thanks.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1676	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:19:00 - [2] - Quote The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 278	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:46:00 - [3] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening?
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 294	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:47:00 - [4] - Quote maybe you can make some friends who can keep you up to speed on these things.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 280	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:02:00 - [5] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: maybe you can make some friends who can keep you up to speed on these things. Could rely on the playerbase handling dissemination of information themselves. Or CCP could up the bombast by having a news page in-game that bigs up the event. More reliably keep everyone informed, make the event feel like it's more than hurdle jumping for free stuffs, tie in EVE universe lore into Dust to make the games feel more connected and actually provide world-building, granting a little insight into the narrative context for the casual player. These things can provide alternative hooks if it can get people to buy into the setting and aesthetic. One of these options sounds a mite more productive than the other.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 623	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:07:00 - [6] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. OP is not talking about the 3x event, but a change in raw sp awarded. I've noticed it too.
Duck Drahko DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:08:00 - [7] - Quote I've also been thinking that in-game information is a little bare. I do keep myself updated on the forums, but it's a bit strange that in-game I get more information from my corp than from CCP.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 97	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote Hard to tell if the OP is meaning 3x sp or not, really who earns 10k sp per match from before 1.2? I wish I could get that. But I too feel sp reward is lower. Perhaps it's just jet lag from last week but it seems off.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 533	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:41:00 - [9] - Quote ya I noticed the sp seems a lot lower yet again. I used to earn about 6-7k every single game in a skirmish or a domination, even if I fell asleep I could earn that much. now I can go 24- 0 top of my team in WP and still get like 4300.
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 874	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:44:00 - [10] - Quote Normally only make 6-8k a match now painfull slow that I gave up hitting my proto suit and just moved into heavy instead

Scotty2Hottie6 Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:12:00 - [11] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening? Event? What event where when? Did I miss something?
Stile451 Red Star. EoN. 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:08:00 - [12] - Quote 3x SP last week. Last night for a few games at the beginning it seemed I was getting less SP for good game(1000+ WP). This fixed itself later in the night when the games became more challenging. What I think happened is that the games lasted longer once they became more challenging allowing the passive in match SP to accumulate.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 637	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:12:00 - [13] - Quote Just finished a game. It IS lower. Nothing to do with 3x sp event being over. I'm making less sp for being just as awesome as before. I Call BS.... EDIT: you think I'm gonna grind sp ccp? watch this.. puts last of us in ps3 screw that. Got my suit where I want it. I'll collect passive sp, and play dust when I feel like it.
R F Gyro L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 384	Posted - 2013.07.12 18:48:00 - [14] - Quote "Hey guys, lets reduce the active SP payouts" "But they players will notice and complain" "Why don't we stick a triple SP event in between to make it harder to spot?"
Zero Notion Red Star Jr. EoN. 47	Posted - 2013.07.12 19:04:00 - [15] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening? It was on the DevBlog. Facebook. Probably their Twitter. It was on here, too. You have your options?
Atikali Havendoorr HERBGROWERS 37	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:24:00 - [16] - Quote Zero Notion wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening? It was on the DevBlog. Facebook. Probably their Twitter. It was on here, too. You have your options? Isn't that what the welcome screen is intended for? Instead they keep the ad crap text from the web page. If you already downloaded it, that "info" is no longer relevant. Srsly, go to the comp and look for new stuff 'bout your Playstation 3 massively multiplayer online game?
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2301	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:30:00 - [17] - Quote Atikali Havendoorr wrote: Zero Notion wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening? It was on the DevBlog. Facebook. Probably their Twitter. It was on here, too. You have your options? Isn't that what the welcome screen is intended for? Instead they keep the ad crap text from the web page. If you already downloaded it, that "info" is no longer relevant. Srsly, go to the comp and look for new stuff 'bout your Playstation 3 massively multiplayer online game? You know, I doubt your going to receive a text message warning you about a zombie apocalypse just because you weren't watching the news
Zero Notion Red Star Jr. EoN. 51	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:31:00 - [18] - Quote Quote: Isn't that what the welcome screen is intended for? I don't disagree at all. It would make it easier, sure, but that still doesn't mean that they don't inform the community through obvious channels. It's all in the DevBlog and the Facebook page.
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.07.12 23:34:00 - [19] - Quote There has been a reduction, I saw it when the triple SP was going on. No one noticed because of the massive points they were getting. I use to get 4K plus on ambush, now I might get 3500 with boosters. Same stats or better just less SP.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 578	Posted - 2013.07.13 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Hard to tell if the OP is meaning 3x sp or not, really who earns 10k sp per match from before 1.2? I wish I could get that. But I too feel sp reward is lower. Perhaps it's just jet lag from last week but it seems off. BEFORE 1.2 earning more than 10K SP per match?? LOL!! Hey Amazing Flying Pig and others we were earning 200K to 500K SP per MATCH. True story.

Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 115	Posted - 2013.07.13 00:48:00 - [21] - Quote So we're talking about post-Uprising SP changes, right? And not the SP reduction that happened between Chromosome and Uprising? I haven't really been paying atention to the payouts enough to notice. I'm usually looking at the "Bonus SP remaining" section to know how much of a grind I still have left for the week.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1096	Posted - 2013.07.13 01:04:00 - [22] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: maybe you can make some friends who can keep you up to speed on these things. Could rely on the playerbase handling dissemination of information themselves. Or CCP could up the bombast by having a news page in-game that bigs up the event. More reliably keep everyone informed, make the event feel like it's more than hurdle jumping for free stuffs, tie in EVE universe lore into Dust to make the games feel more connected and actually provide world-building, granting a little insight into the narrative context for the casual player. These things can provide alternative hooks if it can get people to buy into the setting and aesthetic. One of these options sounds a mite more productive than the other. We have an in game news page, its one of the first things you see when you boot up the game but the damn thing never gets updated
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 299	Posted - 2013.07.13 01:19:00 - [23] - Quote Prior to 1.2, not on a 3x weekend, SP was 3500 - 6500 per match. Now, it hovers around 3000 as high as 5000 if I make top 3. Longer grind. Yay. Because things were moving along too quickly...
Raist Soulforge the troll hord 12	Posted - 2013.07.13 01:29:00 - [24] - Quote probably has something to do with the errors in tallying kills/assists. Started a thread on it a few days back under tech support, and some others have replied there noticing the errors as well. Sometimes it simply doesn't count your assists properly--start watching more closely for your +25 Assist message. Once in a while, you can take a guy down to near death, only to have someone else get the final blow and it doesn't give you credit. Double check your Kill/Assist/Death tally at the end of a match and do the math. Many are seeing the numbers just don't add up right, sometimes in the neighborhood of missing about 200 or more in the WP tally.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1913	Posted - 2013.07.13 01:50:00 - [25] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: The 10k+ was part of the triple SP event. Ain't it wonderful how after all this time there are no in-game indicators that an event's happening? There aren't any in-game indicators for much of anything. By far, CCP's worst attribute is their absolute inability to communicate how their game works and what is going on with the game to it's players. I mean, have you ever seen a game with a more half-assed new player experience? It's laughably bad.


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