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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:09:00 -
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Want still |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:23:00 -
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How would you want it to deal damage? Per shot, per second of continued overheat? Would it suffer a small damage penalty (say 5-10%) when overheated to keep the other gun viable?
I like the Idea and would use these, but it brings up the issue. Even if you do more damage to yourself with these variants, they are going to be superior because you will still be able to fire while your counterpart with the "regular" version would get stuck walking, be unable to fire, and still have taken as much initial feedback damage as you did.
Besides nothing is making you continue to shoot those final shots to kill your target, so you could use this variant like current scram rifles, but without the draw-back of a feedback stall. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
655
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:21:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:How would you want it to deal damage? Per shot, per second of continued overheat? Would it suffer a small damage penalty (say 5-10%) when overheated to keep the other gun viable?
I like the Idea and would use these, but it brings up the issue. Even if you do more damage to yourself with these variants, they are going to be superior because you will still be able to fire while your counterpart with the "regular" version would get stuck walking, be unable to fire, and still have taken as much initial feedback damage as you did.
Besides nothing is making you continue to shoot those final shots to kill your target, so you could use this variant like current scram rifles, but without the draw-back of a feedback stall.
Drastically decrees weapon feedback or only make the zealot variant available after operation lvl 5 |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1577
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:54:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:How would you want it to deal damage? Per shot, per second of continued overheat? Would it suffer a small damage penalty (say 5-10%) when overheated to keep the other gun viable?
I like the Idea and would use these, but it brings up the issue. Even if you do more damage to yourself with these variants, they are going to be superior because you will still be able to fire while your counterpart with the "regular" version would get stuck walking, be unable to fire, and still have taken as much initial feedback damage as you did.
Besides nothing is making you continue to shoot those final shots to kill your target, so you could use this variant like current scram rifles, but without the draw-back of a feedback stall.
I'd say it starts dealing it's heat-build up as DPS to the user. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
322
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:02:00 -
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How about after you overheat, you get the same amount of overheat damage as now but doesn't lock up and deals damage per shot. Also, if the zealot variant overheats, the weapons cooldown time is increased. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
139
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:28:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:'zealot'' variants of the energy weapons would be identical to regular variants except for one change.
Instead of locking up when they over heat they just deal feedback damage and you can keep firing taking more damage as you go.
This would let people maybe be able to get that one last shot to kill at the cost of dealing nearly lethal amounts of damage to yourself.
You're a true Amarrian. That's the only thing I respect about you. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:30:00 -
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General Erick wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:'zealot'' variants of the energy weapons would be identical to regular variants except for one change.
Instead of locking up when they over heat they just deal feedback damage and you can keep firing taking more damage as you go.
This would let people maybe be able to get that one last shot to kill at the cost of dealing nearly lethal amounts of damage to yourself. You're a true Amarrian. That's the only thing I respect about you.
umm, thanks? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6344
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Posted - 2013.10.02 14:42:00 -
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LAZZOR! |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:13:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:LAZZOR!
PEW PEW PEW |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
155
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:16:00 -
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+1 again for MAKE. IT. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:35:00 -
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Still would be super awesome
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6984
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Posted - 2013.11.09 18:47:00 -
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I would sooooo love this
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
204
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Posted - 2013.11.09 18:59:00 -
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+1 and i will always want it.
That and having my minmatar heavy/tank
CCP wants me to specialize? But there's so many weapons!
'Unwise SP spending mode activated'
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The-Errorist
348
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Posted - 2013.11.11 08:58:00 -
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Still want |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.08 23:21:00 -
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I want this
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Faunher
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.12.09 05:55:00 -
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I am not a heavy, but I miss back when heavies were the top of the scoreboard, surpassed only maybe by the logi giving them reps. I feel as if this would help put them back up on to the top of the chain, +1 |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
598
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Posted - 2013.12.09 08:00:00 -
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Something to consider is possible damage to the weapon itself. For example, the description of the Laser Rifle says:
"Heat build-up is typically managed by a self-regulating failsafe, a device used to forcibly shut the weapon off at regular intervals, flushing heat from its internal workings and preventing lethal feedback to the user, but most laser rifles in the field have been altered to bypass the built-in safety protocols."
So it seems that the weapons aren't shutting down to protect the user from further damage, but because they have difficulty functioning at such high temperatures.
My suggestion, along with DPS for the overheat, is to have a breaking point, with an early warning fuction (beeping, or something like that) of course.
+ 1 to the OP, I would like to see something like that for all weapons with an overheat mechanic (vehicle turrets included). It just makes sense to me that if push a weapon beyond it's limits you risk turning it into a really expensive club.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7675
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:41:00 -
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I want still
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
939
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:59:00 -
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I'm against the idea that a variant should have such remarkably different overheating mechanics.
Either all overheating weapons have this, or none do. That's the only way to go. 
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8987
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Talos Alomar wrote:'zealot'' variants of the energy weapons would be identical to regular variants except for one change.
Instead of locking up when they over heat they just deal feedback damage and you can keep firing taking more damage as you go.
This would let people maybe be able to get that one last shot to kill at the cost of dealing nearly lethal amounts of damage to yourself. I would loooooooove this.
Still would
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
22
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Posted - 2014.02.09 19:09:00 -
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+1
Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.02.20 07:48:00 -
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Still a great idea
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The-Errorist
522
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:16:00 -
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bumb |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
General Tso's Alliance
527
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:34:00 -
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Exceptional idea. +1 |
Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
28
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:38:00 -
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unless they apply the over heat mechanic to the Rail rifle then they need to remove it from all the laser weapons so that their is a counter to the RR DPM output. |
The-Errorist
524
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:51:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:unless they apply the over heat mechanic to the Rail rifle then they need to remove it from all the laser weapons so that their is a counter to the RR DPM output.
No, balancing a good weapon to be on par with an overpowered one is not a good idea. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10357
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Posted - 2014.04.09 01:43:00 -
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I still want this coolness
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2672
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:09:00 -
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bump |
The-Errorist
SVER True Blood
739
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:44:00 -
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This would go well with risk vs reward model that's in place.
MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill. http://vimeo.com/93181621
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Talon Paetznick II
Gallente Federation Resistance
10
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Posted - 2014.06.11 03:02:00 -
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would love to see this mechanic on an HMG it would go like this
*gets killed by HMG (but nearly took him out)*
me: "a**hole"
*HMG kills self with overheat*
me: "dumba** "
dust math:
getting killed by ion pistol = dropping the soap,useful item= nerfhammer,
protostomp= WHY GOD!!!
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