Dear CCP and fellow tankers. After talking to a few tankers and after playing DUST514 over a year and many other fps shooters as tanks, we are creating a friendly petition for tanks. This is not a rage post and we don't want any crying or complaining or we won 't be taken seriously. Here's is a list of things we currently want, if you agree respond and your name will be put on the list if you want something on the list that you dont see please feel free to say so in a response and we might add it to the list.


First things on the list is- proto-type tanks and pilot dropsuits.

The reason we want proto tanks back and pilot dropsuits back is so that in p/c we can actually be more effective instead of having to take a basic level one tank against proto anti-armor.


2nd thing on the list is to either reduce the effective range of forge guns and swarm launchers or at least increase that tanks blaster effective range. In so many matches especially in p/c due to the fact that dropships don't have a hight ceiling, anti-armor can destroy tanks in a matter of seconds. Sure on some maps theirs cover but on most maps theirs wide open fields and some buildings are high enough to see over cover. In some situations we can get some hits on anti-armor but smart forge guns simply pop in and out and sit at awkward angles where their simply is no cover.

3rd thing we want is to possibly add some better armor resistance. Me personally I am a shield tanker so it takes a little bit more avs to kill me but my friends the armor tankers just have people run up and throw 3 lai dais avs instantly killing them or they'll just throw down a nano hive and throw 6-10 in a matter of seconds.

Now me personally don't want tanks to be OP, but they should be able to decently handle themselves and anti-armor should have to put some effort. I personally have done it and i've had it happen to me but me single handedly can kill a madrugar with 3-4 swarm and a little bit more for gunnlogis with barely any effort. Tanks have a in-effective radar so i can either drive a logi lav and come up behind them and kill them before they know what hit them or do what my friend DOC DDD does and take a proto swarm on a caldari logi suit stack 5 complex damage mods and me personally have seen him drop 1.5 mill dollar tanks in 2 shots. It took 3-4 to drop my gunnlogi with resistance amps.


CCP, the biggest problem is, if you want tanks to be easily destroyed which many fps games do like bf3, at least make them cheap then. If the turret costs were produced and we could actually make profit off tanking, then their would be no problem. But if i have to spend 600-1.5 mill for one tank that can't even last through the match, we're just losing money, not gaining, and that shouldn't happen. In my AR suit that costs 12k or less, even if i die 20 times i still make a profit. This game is about making money not losing money but i know some people use 3-4 proto AR suits a match and lose money, you dont have to call that many you can switch to a less exspensive suit. Tanks dont have that option, we lose one and we're done. Last build i used to be capable of running militia tanks that were 160k so if i died i would make profit. But now that's not possible because 1-2 swarms can destroy them and their more expensive now due to turret costs.

So that's the 5th thing, possibly reducing the price. When the drop ship pilots asked for a buff you instead decreased the price and it was alright. When can tanks get a decreased price?



So far the supporters of the list are:
Tank Gorillarape
Die Quickly
I Keel You
TakeCoverOrDie
FIghter4All
Barbosa07z
Void Echo
CharCharOdell
TheLegend345
Killer-12
Vethosis
Viktor Viktrizi
Tai kar
Oso Tiburon
GodHands9
Exergonic
Please respond to this petition and ask to have your name put on the list. Remember this is not a rage post if you have feedback or requests for this petition please feel free to comment. Thank you.

if your dying from AV then your dying from whats meant to kill you off, you certainly don't seem like a tanker, the attitude says "infantry".

calm your ass down little shield

It's rather easy looking at the issue from both sides tanks need only a few tweaks,
PG skill
Turret Price
and lack of proto stuff
is AV OP? no
are DS'es and Tanks UP? yes

the only time i die from av the past 3 weeks is when i come home drunk,,, you call yourself tanker?

you must be ****

clearly you want i win button as does that char scrub, your the only two constantly crying

the issue with tanks is amour vs shield

in no way am I ever asking for god mode or a win button, I want balance and reasonable price for my fittings. armor vs shield is a problem at the moment, but not the biggest problem, any tanker can see that the real problem is the lack of support we have when fighting AV (im not hating on the AV guys, im stating a fact), we don't have advanced or prototype HAVs and therefore nothing to make balance or adjust to balance.

I like the fact that I can be killed, it makes me devise clever strategies and more tactics for myself to survive and win, Iv never asked for a win button or god mode before.

I want balance only.

No disrespect to tankers but... You can blame the LAV pricks for the huge amount of players that specced into AV. If they werent so annoying people wouldnt use such high AV. If they do give tanks BUFFS and make them cheap every panzy in the game will be using them and the matches will be flooded with tanks. Then you will risk your tanks being nerfed REALLY hard.

I know half the guys on that list and i feel for you but I will not agree.

Theres **** all wrong with tank Vs av

learn to move out the ******* way , its as simple as that

your making serious tankers look bad with all your crying, every ******* day, there you are, bitching about crap, i go lone wolf, no team support and do just fine, i've been tanking since upriseing, what does that say about you?! the self defined don of tanks? lmao

get over yourself youpussy

since when have I ever proclaimed myself to be "The don of tanks"? iv been saying that since iv been a tank driver since I started playing this game, I know a hell of a lot more than most tank drivers especially you, only the tank vets are the ones that can say they are the experts and we are the experts. iv been playing since the E3 chapter back in closed beta which was a year ago, youv been tanking since uprising? HA I have you beat by a year already.

I do move my **** around, I don't stay still in one spot, I don in fact move around, your completely ignorant.

Sounds like you've been blowing up ****** pilots then but that is always fun, especially jumping on top of them and watching them freak out trying to shake you off

Seriously though all tank drivers, if someone has jumped on top of you then you are doing it wrong

Theres **** all wrong with tank Vs av

learn to move out the ******* way , its as simple as that

your making serious tankers look bad with all your crying, every ******* day, there you are, bitching about crap, i go lone wolf, no team support and do just fine, i've been tanking since upriseing, what does that say about you?! the self defined don of tanks? lmao

get over yourself youpussy

AV is fine, its amour vs shield that needs a look into

tanks have changed, get over it, i moved from AR user to tank driver as aiming ******* blows, adapt or die etc

and again you and that charcu.nt clearly want i win button

as again theres **** all wrong with tanks, i as new tank driver can go 20-0 ******* well easy, unless maddy comes and fucks up my day

so what the **** are you crying about? that you cant go 50-0?

again get over yourself

AV is fine, its amour vs shield that needs a look into

Nvm this proved to me you're just a pub tanker

Good day /tiphat

Have you ever even been in a real PC match??

I'll wait....

no

clearly, as stated, i play lone wolf on my own, and do just ******* fine in my tank, i love it , much more fun than ar ever fecking was

other than friendly fire and a bit more competiveness, i dont see what your point is, if a whole squad dedicates themselfs to taking out tank, then you better have a whole squad to take out AV'ers, its as simple as that

same as public match, if the team's shite. then a tanks not really gonna help them, no matter how many infantry you kill

again as new tank driver i have no problems or issues against av

so why you so called "vets" bithcing is beyond me, it just looks like you want that I-WIN button

and i've been here since closed beta also..... means nothing, scrub

you said youv been tanking since uprising. iv been tanking since I 1st played this game in the E3 build

tanking since closed beta makes more experience than someone that just barely started during this build. mho

Not doing you any fecking favours tho is it, again, if a new tanker cant adapt, why cant you?

oh wait, you cant go 50-0 any more and actully have to think about your tanking

Since the character max has been reached the list will continue here:




After reading some comments this will also be added, the biggest thing that ruined things for tanks is the Logi Lav's. After everyone saw how affective they were everyone started specing into Av. All the time my buddy goes 20 & 0 in his logi lav and when me and him squad up together and im getting hammered i literally ask him to take the forge gun shots for me since he can survive them better than i can. LLAV > Tank should not happen i shouldn't feel safer in a llav than my tank i know the point of the llav is to sit in the middle of the battlefield and heal people but their is really no one who does that it's all just murder taxis and it's to late to reverse how many people speced into anti-armor due to llavs so the only way to fix is buff the tanks
slightly reduce the buff on logi lavs

iv never had a problem with thinking, im a big thinker so I have no trouble with it, apparently you do since you cant seem to understand what this thread is about or what we are talking about, and your lack of experience makes you a big liability to us.

as iv stated before I don't care about how many kills I get in a match, I just care about making a profit.

since you keep bringing it up, you must care about your kd ratio, because I certainly don't, I stopped caring a while back

no

clearly, as stated, i play lone wolf on my own, and do just ******* fine in my tank, i love it , much more fun than ar ever fecking was

other than friendly fire and a bit more competiveness, i dont see what your point is, if a whole squad dedicates themselfs to taking out tank, then you better have a whole squad to take out AV'ers, its as simple as that

same as public match, if the team's shite. then a tanks not really gonna help them, no matter how many infantry you kill

again as new tank driver i have no problems or issues against av

so why you so called "vets" bithcing is beyond me, it just looks like you want that I-WIN button

and i've been here since closed beta also..... means nothing, scrub

Since the character max has been reached the list will continue here:




After reading some comments this will also be added, the biggest thing that ruined things for tanks is the Logi Lav's. After everyone saw how affective they were everyone started specing into Av. All the time my buddy goes 20 & 0 in his logi lav and when me and him squad up together and im getting hammered i literally ask him to take the forge gun shots for me since he can survive them better than i can. LLAV > Tank should not happen i shouldn't feel safer in a llav than my tank i know the point of the llav is to sit in the middle of the battlefield and heal people but their is really no one who does that it's all just murder taxis and it's to late to reverse how many people speced into anti-armor due to llavs so the only way to fix is buff the tanks
slightly reduce the buff on logi lavs

not doing too well now are you

when did i mention kd other than to make my point about you

you cant make a profit?

well, what does that say about you, as im making profit just fine , yep newb tanker making profit not sat in redline lmao, bet you hate that

getgoodscrub

and
learntoavoidavyoufuckingnoob