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TakeCover OrDie
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:31:00 -
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Dear CCP and fellow tankers. After talking to a few tankers and after playing DUST514 over a year and many other fps shooters as tanks, we are creating a friendly petition for tanks. This is not a rage post and we don't want any crying or complaining or we won 't be taken seriously. Here's is a list of things we currently want, if you agree respond and your name will be put on the list if you want something on the list that you dont see please feel free to say so in a response and we might add it to the list.
First things on the list is- proto-type tanks and pilot dropsuits.
The reason we want proto tanks back and pilot dropsuits back is so that in p/c we can actually be more effective instead of having to take a basic level one tank against proto anti-armor.
2nd thing on the list is to either reduce the effective range of forge guns and swarm launchers or at least increase that tanks blaster effective range. In so many matches especially in p/c due to the fact that dropships don't have a hight ceiling, anti-armor can destroy tanks in a matter of seconds. Sure on some maps theirs cover but on most maps theirs wide open fields and some buildings are high enough to see over cover. In some situations we can get some hits on anti-armor but smart forge guns simply pop in and out and sit at awkward angles where their simply is no cover.
3rd thing we want is to possibly add some better armor resistance. Me personally I am a shield tanker so it takes a little bit more avs to kill me but my friends the armor tankers just have people run up and throw 3 lai dais avs instantly killing them or they'll just throw down a nano hive and throw 6-10 in a matter of seconds.
Now me personally don't want tanks to be OP, but they should be able to decently handle themselves and anti-armor should have to put some effort. I personally have done it and i've had it happen to me but me single handedly can kill a madrugar with 3-4 swarm and a little bit more for gunnlogis with barely any effort. Tanks have a in-effective radar so i can either drive a logi lav and come up behind them and kill them before they know what hit them or do what my friend DOC DDD does and take a proto swarm on a caldari logi suit stack 5 complex damage mods and me personally have seen him drop 1.5 mill dollar tanks in 2 shots. It took 3-4 to drop my gunnlogi with resistance amps.
CCP, the biggest problem is, if you want tanks to be easily destroyed which many fps games do like bf3, at least make them cheap then. If the turret costs were produced and we could actually make profit off tanking, then their would be no problem. But if i have to spend 600-1.5 mill for one tank that can't even last through the match, we're just losing money, not gaining, and that shouldn't happen. In my AR suit that costs 12k or less, even if i die 20 times i still make a profit. This game is about making money not losing money but i know some people use 3-4 proto AR suits a match and lose money, you dont have to call that many you can switch to a less exspensive suit. Tanks dont have that option, we lose one and we're done. Last build i used to be capable of running militia tanks that were 160k so if i died i would make profit. But now that's not possible because 1-2 swarms can destroy them and their more expensive now due to turret costs.
So that's the 5th thing, possibly reducing the price. When the drop ship pilots asked for a buff you instead decreased the price and it was alright. When can tanks get a decreased price?
So far the supporters of the list are: Tank Gorillarape Die Quickly I Keel You TakeCoverOrDie FIghter4All Barbosa07z
Please respond to this petition and ask to have your name put on the list. Remember this is not a rage post if you have feedback or requests for this petition please feel free to comment. Thank you. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:34:00 -
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signed. charlotte o'dell. gang affiliated. |
The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
730
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:36:00 -
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signed |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
509
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:38:00 -
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My addition to the list-
Give us Advanced and Prototype HAVs already, we are tired of waiting for them, and make them actually worth the SP & ISK it takes to even use them, and im talking about increasing the PG/CPU output of the HAVs yet to be implemented so they be actual Advanced and Prototype HAVs, not these stupid Enforcers.
Also, remove the Enforcers, they are a complete joke of HAVs, they are utterly useless and die faster than militia HAVs do. the SP people put into the Enforcers should be redirected into the advanced HAV category so they don't get cheated by this. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:38:00 -
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Well we could use something from EVE like Damage type-specific Hardeners (high resistance vs explosives, Raiguns, etc)
Also fixing the PG skill would help if it gave the 5% increse to PG per level too.
then tanks would be buffed but AV would remain un-nerfed remeber the AV players usually aren't the ones complaining we have the tools to kill you it's the AR holding masses that wan't you gone because they can't use teamwork to kill you and they won't spec into AV or vehicles to kill you.
Oh and if you ask for a buff to tanks instead of a nerf to AV then I'll support this thread |
TakeCover OrDie
Not Guilty EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:40:00 -
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:41:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Well we could use something from EVE like Damage type-specific Hardeners (high resistance vs explosives, Raiguns, etc)
Also fixing the PG skill would help if it gave the 5% increse to PG per level too.
then tanks would be buffed but AV would remain un-nerfed remeber the AV players usually aren't the ones complaining we have the tools to kill you it's the AR holding masses that wan't you gone because they can't use teamwork to kill you and they won't spec into AV or vehicles to kill you.
Oh and if you ask for a buff to tanks instead of a nerf to AV then I'll support this thread
yeah, we know, its the infantry that are trying to make us extinct, they want this to be another COD, we are fighting back |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1082
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:43:00 -
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AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about |
TakeCover OrDie
Not Guilty EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:43:00 -
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10 supporters lets keep them coming! |
TakeCover OrDie
Not Guilty EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:44:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about i have avd many tanks i just throw down nano hives or crash an lav into them or even jump on them and just slaughter them
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Viktor Vikrizi
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:44:00 -
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signed |
Tai Karr
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:45:00 -
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Signed, by an AV specializing fatty! |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1082
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:46:00 -
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TakeCover OrDie wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about i have avd many tanks i just throw down nano hives or crash an lav into them or even jump on them and just slaughter them
Sounds like you've been blowing up ****** pilots then but that is always fun, especially jumping on top of them and watching them freak out trying to shake you off
Seriously though all tank drivers, if someone has jumped on top of you then you are doing it wrong |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:46:00 -
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**** all wrong with tanks other than the shield vs amour situation
trust ol void and charcharwhatever to be the 1st knobs to comment blahh, call yourself tankers?
lmfao |
Vethosis
BurgezzE.T.F
502
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:46:00 -
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signed |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1222
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:47:00 -
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Only thing I don't agree on is reducing the swarms range. Instead put each swarms damage back to 300 instead of 330.
/signed |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
509
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:47:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about
I know EXACTLY how easy it is to destroy tanks with AV, I was an AV player during the 1st week of uprising, I would just hide behind a wall, toss down a nanohive and just thrown nade after nade at the nearest HAV, needless to say it only took 3 each time.
so yeah I know how it works for AV players so I can see your point of view, but heres the thing, we don't see you AV players as the enemy, we see the infantry players as the enemy because they are the one that demanded CCP to nerf us every time. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
111
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:48:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about It's rather easy looking at the issue from both sides tanks need only a few tweaks, PG skill Turret Price and lack of proto stuff is AV OP? no are DS'es and Tanks UP? yes |
godhands9
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:48:00 -
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i also sign as a tanker myself.
godhands9 g.t.i. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
513
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:49:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:**** all wrong with tanks other than the shield vs amour situation
trust ol void and charcharwhatever to be the 1st knobs to comment blahh, call yourself tankers?
lmfao
funny how I have more support than you do... lol
silly little infantry, you mad because I killed you with my particle cannon? |
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Tank Gorillarape
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:49:00 -
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Signed oh wait i did already XD
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oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
157
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:50:00 -
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tired of losing my maddy every match ... signed |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
111
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:51:00 -
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Oh, you know I'll sign but I think that the issue is tanks being UP, I still want to kill LAVs with militia swarms
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1082
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:51:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about I know EXACTLY how easy it is to destroy tanks with AV, I was an AV player during the 1st week of uprising, I would just hide behind a wall, toss down a nanohive and just thrown nade after nade at the nearest HAV, needless to say it only took 3 each time. so yeah I know how it works for AV players so I can see your point of view, but heres the thing, we don't see you AV players as the enemy, we see the infantry players as the enemy because they are the one that demanded CCP to nerf us every time.
Well the old tanks were overpowered, right now tanks are fine for being standard level equipment You want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks with more pg cpu and slots then Ill agree with you all day, you want to cry standards tanks are too weak and need to be able to stand up to squads of proto AV players to take one down then Ill call you an idiot |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
513
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:53:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about I know EXACTLY how easy it is to destroy tanks with AV, I was an AV player during the 1st week of uprising, I would just hide behind a wall, toss down a nanohive and just thrown nade after nade at the nearest HAV, needless to say it only took 3 each time. so yeah I know how it works for AV players so I can see your point of view, but heres the thing, we don't see you AV players as the enemy, we see the infantry players as the enemy because they are the one that demanded CCP to nerf us every time. Well the old tanks were overpowered, right now tanks are fine for being standard level equipment You want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks with more pg cpu and slots then Ill agree with you all day, you want to cry standards tanks are too weak and need to be able to stand up to squads of proto AV players to take one down then Ill call you an idiot
did I say that standards are too weak? I don't recall
oh I see it now, yeah proto and advanced are what I want. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:54:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:gbh08 wrote:**** all wrong with tanks other than the shield vs amour situation
trust ol void and charcharwhatever to be the 1st knobs to comment blahh, call yourself tankers?
lmfao funny how I have more support than you do... lol silly little infantry, you mad because I killed you with my particle cannon?
No
I roll in shield tank, which is perfectly fine, other than against amour tanks, which is the real issue, if your dieing from av, then your ******* **** tanker
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TakeCover OrDie
Not Guilty EoN.
17
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:54:00 -
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ATTENTION IF YOU ARN'T ALREADY IN IT, their is a channel for us tankers called "Tanks R Us" their is no password if you need an invite simply ask in here |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:55:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AV troll here saying if you think it takes no effort to put down a tank then maybe you should actually try doing it on foot to know exactly what you are talking about I know EXACTLY how easy it is to destroy tanks with AV, I was an AV player during the 1st week of uprising, I would just hide behind a wall, toss down a nanohive and just thrown nade after nade at the nearest HAV, needless to say it only took 3 each time. so yeah I know how it works for AV players so I can see your point of view, but heres the thing, we don't see you AV players as the enemy, we see the infantry players as the enemy because they are the one that demanded CCP to nerf us every time. Well the old tanks were overpowered, right now tanks are fine for being standard level equipment You want to talk about adding in advanced and proto tanks with more pg cpu and slots then Ill agree with you all day, you want to cry standards tanks are too weak and need to be able to stand up to squads of proto AV players to take one down then Ill call you an idiot No, Tanks were fine You needed to abush the tank not attack head on
fix PG skill (Does it give 5% per level?)
Give us proto/adv Tanks
Don't touch AV of any type |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
513
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:55:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:Void Echo wrote:gbh08 wrote:**** all wrong with tanks other than the shield vs amour situation
trust ol void and charcharwhatever to be the 1st knobs to comment blahh, call yourself tankers?
lmfao funny how I have more support than you do... lol silly little infantry, you mad because I killed you with my particle cannon? No I roll in shield tank, which is perfectly fine, other than against amour tanks, which is the real issue, if your dieing from av, then your ******* **** tanker
if your dying from AV then your dying from whats meant to kill you off, you certainly don't seem like a tanker, the attitude says "infantry".
calm your ass down little shield |
Dark Deviser
Elements Of Death Elite
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:56:00 -
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Signed |
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