DUST Search - Current state of Nova Knives?

Lee Goland wrote:

OZAROW wrote:

What's your profile dampening at?
Do you have proficiency knives using ishnoks( you said 300 damage ishnoks are 200/ had to ask, proficiency level?)
Do you have minmatar racial suit bonus?
What's your speed?
What's your sensitivity settings? I lowered mine to 20 left right an 10 up down big difference!
Have you de fragged your ps3 lately?
Do you hit them once they stop moving?
Do you stalk them?
I run shields knives complex red an a enhanced armor repair an flux nades with my sensitivity low to not miss a quick strafer.
I found the new build doesn't allow the manic slashing without a charge, Because the knives have a delay now.
Press your swing an see if the knives react instantly. They don't they wait almost 1second because they auto matically begin to charge, you have to incorporate this to your style. Also the hight opponent strafe speed means that one second delay often means you only get em with one blade. Plus their movement doesn't always register that an our endurance now has a delay .
So use the armor repair an complex red. You'll run 9.36 but the enhanced repair an a scouts quick shield recharge will keep you at almost full health if you get hit an hide behind a box , they see you two seconds later an your health is full again , use the flux to stall. When you chuck the first nade they don't know what kind it is so you by time to get your endurance an shield up, throw another an run, circle stalk and kill this strategy work well because they don't know your back to full health an they abort thinking your not coming back for seconds an that's when you get them.
Stalk wait for their endurance to make them walk , sprint kill.
Adjust your settings in sensitivity de frag the ps3 an try my style see if it works, get at me tonight I'll be able to squad in about 8 hours

I have level three (is that ADV?) on Minnie Scout., Dampening module, Scan Range module, Scan Precision module, Damage Mod, Kin Cat, Nova, Flaylock, and Sniper Rifle. My general purpose scout build is Minnie Adv with two Adv Kin Cats, Adv Novas, Adv Flaylock, Flux Grenades, Nanohive, Adv Sidearm Mod, Adv...I don't remember what the high Scan mod is...Precision?

I think the advanced Novas are 150 dmg base, and to my understanding that's per blade, so both hitting should be 300, and charged should be 600, no?

My speed with two adv kin cats is 9.something....9.3 maybe, perhaps 9.6?

I will definitely try turning down my sensitivity. I had it cranked up to 60 each. The logic being that since I need to dance around like a fool, agility was the prime concern. I'm worried that being that low would prevent me from being able to leap over folks and whip around for the backstab, but I'll try it.

I actually didn't know you could de-frag a PS3, so I'll check that out too.

This is the first I've heard of a knife delay, but I'll check for that as well.


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OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 136	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:29:00 - [1] - Quote Send me a message now an add urself to the bacon knives channel or scouts united I ll squad up with you an explain some ish I I figured out in this build
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 136	Posted - 2013.07.11 20:08:00 - [2] - Quote What's your profile dampening at? Do you have proficiency knives using ishnoks( you said 300 damage ishnoks are 200/ had to ask, proficiency level?) Do you have minmatar racial suit bonus? What's your speed? What's your sensitivity settings? I lowered mine to 20 left right an 10 up down big difference! Have you de fragged your ps3 lately? Do you hit them once they stop moving? Do you stalk them? I run shields knives complex red an a enhanced armor repair an flux nades with my sensitivity low to not miss a quick strafer. I found the new build doesn't allow the manic slashing without a charge, Because the knives have a delay now. Press your swing an see if the knives react instantly. They don't they wait almost 1second because they auto matically begin to charge, you have to incorporate this to your style. Also the hight opponent strafe speed means that one second delay often means you only get em with one blade. Plus their movement doesn't always register that an our endurance now has a delay . So use the armor repair an complex red. You'll run 9.36 but the enhanced repair an a scouts quick shield recharge will keep you at almost full health if you get hit an hide behind a box , they see you two seconds later an your health is full again , use the flux to stall. When you chuck the first nade they don't know what kind it is so you by time to get your endurance an shield up, throw another an run, circle stalk and kill this strategy work well because they don't know your back to full health an they abort thinking your not coming back for seconds an that's when you get them. Stalk wait for their endurance to make them walk , sprint kill. Adjust your settings in sensitivity de frag the ps3 an try my style see if it works, get at me tonight I'll be able to squad in about 8 hours
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 138	Posted - 2013.07.11 20:33:00 - [3] - Quote The Cobra Commander wrote: OZAROW wrote: What's your profile dampening at? Do you have proficiency knives using ishnoks( you said 300 damage ishnoks are 200/ had to ask, proficiency level?) Do you have minmatar racial suit bonus? What's your speed? What's your sensitivity settings? I lowered mine to 20 left right an 10 up down big difference! Have you de fragged your ps3 lately? Do you hit them once they stop moving? Do you stalk them? I run shields knives complex red an a enhanced armor repair an flux nades with my sensitivity low to not miss a quick strafer. I found the new build doesn't allow the manic slashing without a charge, Because the knives have a delay now. Press your swing an see if the knives react instantly. They don't they wait almost 1second because they auto matically begin to charge, you have to incorporate this to your style. Also the hight opponent strafe speed means that one second delay often means you only get em with one blade. Plus their movement doesn't always register that an our endurance now has a delay . So use the armor repair an complex red. You'll run 9.36 but the enhanced repair an a scouts quick shield recharge will keep you at almost full health if you get hit an hide behind a box , they see you two seconds later an your health is full again , use the flux to stall. When you chuck the first nade they don't know what kind it is so you by time to get your endurance an shield up, throw another an run, circle stalk and kill this strategy work well because they don't know your back to full health an they abort thinking your not coming back for seconds an that's when you get them. Stalk wait for their endurance to make them walk , sprint kill. Adjust your settings in sensitivity de frag the ps3 an try my style see if it works, get at me tonight I'll be able to squad in about 8 hours This has to be one of the best knife posts I have seen. I am trying to learn how to use them. I came from a Gall. Shotty build so I am at some disadvantage when it comes to the knives (racial bonuses etc...) but I am not letting it stop me. Just got the proto knives and I am working on my proficiency now...but I am going to incorporate what you just posted. I know one thing though...these things are a real challenge to use (and I have the deaths to prove it for me! Lol) but the rush you get stabbing someone in the back as the hack an objective, thinking no one saw them, is off the chain! Lol Last night I got 4 red line snipers in a row sharing a nano hive with a cheap militia fit for those redline untouchable s it was worth the suicide just if I coulda seen all 4 of there faces when it said OZAROW NOVA KNIVES ON THEIR KILLED CHART LMAO
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 00:31:00 - [4] - Quote The Cobra Commander wrote: [quote=OZAROW]What's your profile dampening at? This has to be one of the best knife posts I have seen. I am trying to learn how to use them. I came from a Gall. Shotty build so I am at some disadvantage when it comes to the knives (racial bonuses etc...) but I am not letting it stop me. Just got the proto knives and I am working on my proficiency now...but I am going to incorporate what you just posted. I know one thing though...these things are a real challenge to use (and I have the deaths to prove it for me! Lol) but the rush you get stabbing someone in the back as the hack an objective, thinking no one saw them, is off the chain! Lol So what level is your suit at? Armor an shield upgrades an enhancement? Armor repair? Biotics regulation endurance an have you unlocked kinetics? Profile dampening? Your scout is a armor tanker but you can use those low slots to a wicked advantage if you spent the sp correctly . But the play style is different for a few reasons. You can be faster but then you run no armor speed mods 3 an armor rep an a complex shield Or two reds armor rep an a green Or two armor reps basic plate an speed Or profile damp 2 an speed an armor rep All of these styles with a shield But now you have nearly any shield an any time you get hit you ll always lose armor so you need a wicked armor repair always on so it act like your shield regen. So you have 2 things healing you at all times so get that complex armor rep ASAP ! I went mini scout because gallente needs mor things unlocked to be successfull Armor basic maybe enhance ( for shotty use) but deffinetly armor upgrades 5 for the 5% per level mine is shields so everything I skilled would be similar but almost backwards. But you need a complex shield in the frontjust to fill one space which feels like wasted sp unles you went shield energizer so even tho its a low shield it's aways up. But because your pg side will take a lot of power for the 4 slot proto u need engineering an circuitry high lv 5 if possible. The gallente will never have the speed or movement of a mini unless u use 3 complwx kin but you'll run out of stamina faster but since its armor you need fast armor reps on your suit so it works like a minis shield. So if you have armor upgrades 5 an shield up grades 5 you can have extention at level one an have your stock armor higher without a armor mod so you don't lose mobility or speed and put a complex shield in the front an complex armor rep an 3 speed mods in the back run like snot an always have full health in seconds to escape when trapped. An with full pg CPU you can have two weapons cuz your CPU an pg stock is higher than minmatar. But before you spec further spend the 20 thousand sp on a minna tar light basic an test drive its mobility because if you haven't gone galente racial yet it might be worth it to change suits if it fits your play style better. For uprising I went gallente then regretted it an was lucky to get the optional respec. I went mini proto racial 5 nk proficiency3 , shotgun proficiency 3 , dampening 4, endurance 5 cardiac3 , kinetics,5 A shield upgrade an extention5 CPU pg 2 took about 9 million sp. Not sure how much you have but that's a good knifed guideline on how to spec. Since then I now have more weapons an an a basic level 3 gallent scout, minmatar middle frame 3 an a basic gallente assault trying to make a stronger knifer with more hp for shields since I had the same knife problems as you. But then I went bac to my winmatar scout put armor rep on it so I didn't over pass my prey , cleaned my ps3, an lowed my sensitivity an hunted differently mind you some battle aren't good for scout but now I have a tough advanced minmatar medium frame to slap speed mods a proto short an armor rep on an it makes the scout sp spent wor for that build , but not so much anything else cuz the minmitat medium is like second best movement an sprint next to scout so it made sence. So try mini scout before you dump more into gallente. Hope the novel helps
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 01:05:00 - [5] - Quote Lee Goland wrote: OZAROW wrote: What's your profile dampening at? Do you have proficiency knives using ishnoks( you said 300 damage ishnoks are 200/ had to ask, proficiency level?) Do you have minmatar racial suit bonus? What's your speed? What's your sensitivity settings? I lowered mine to 20 left right an 10 up down big difference! Have you de fragged your ps3 lately? Do you hit them once they stop moving? Do you stalk them? I run shields knives complex red an a enhanced armor repair an flux nades with my sensitivity low to not miss a quick strafer. I found the new build doesn't allow the manic slashing without a charge, Because the knives have a delay now. Press your swing an see if the knives react instantly. They don't they wait almost 1second because they auto matically begin to charge, you have to incorporate this to your style. Also the hight opponent strafe speed means that one second delay often means you only get em with one blade. Plus their movement doesn't always register that an our endurance now has a delay . So use the armor repair an complex red. You'll run 9.36 but the enhanced repair an a scouts quick shield recharge will keep you at almost full health if you get hit an hide behind a box , they see you two seconds later an your health is full again , use the flux to stall. When you chuck the first nade they don't know what kind it is so you by time to get your endurance an shield up, throw another an run, circle stalk and kill this strategy work well because they don't know your back to full health an they abort thinking your not coming back for seconds an that's when you get them. Stalk wait for their endurance to make them walk , sprint kill. Adjust your settings in sensitivity de frag the ps3 an try my style see if it works, get at me tonight I'll be able to squad in about 8 hours I have level three (is that ADV?) on Minnie Scout., Dampening module, Scan Range module, Scan Precision module, Damage Mod, Kin Cat, Nova, Flaylock, and Sniper Rifle. My general purpose scout build is Minnie Adv with two Adv Kin Cats, Adv Novas, Adv Flaylock, Flux Grenades, Nanohive, Adv Sidearm Mod, Adv...I don't remember what the high Scan mod is...Precision? I think the advanced Novas are 150 dmg base, and to my understanding that's per blade, so both hitting should be 300, and charged should be 600, no? My speed with two adv kin cats is 9.something....9.3 maybe, perhaps 9.6? I will definitely try turning down my sensitivity. I had it cranked up to 60 each. The logic being that since I need to dance around like a fool, agility was the prime concern. I'm worried that being that low would prevent me from being able to leap over folks and whip around for the backstab, but I'll try it. I actually didn't know you could de-frag a PS3, so I'll check that out too. This is the first I've heard of a knife delay, but I'll check for that as well. My advanced fit only has shields2 (think complex an enhanced) complex red(9.36) enhanced armor rep flux an proto knives( 200 each blade 400 each charged 800 total x 25% suit bonus + 9% proficiency =1072 total charge) so work on getting proto knives proficiency 3 CPU pg least 3 complex reds an enhanced armor rep I switched out the red for the rep an like it better not worring that if my armies damaged an my shield get fluxes I have 2 hp, then seconds later I'm full health cuz this build escaping bullets seems harder an speed isn't what it used to be for me, now it's all about full health an SUPRISE MO FAKAH I GOT FULL HP IN 5 SECONDS HOW U LIKE ME NOW BYIOTCHHHHHHHH LOL! Too much speed equals being slow cuz you abuse it an run out of stamina too often. Try changing the sensitivity lower in a match everytime you die, it's easier to track a guy when your right beside him an both of you can't find each other, trust me his will be higher than your so he ll spin in a circle twice before he finds you, sprint punch him it the head charge cuz hell pause to see how much damage he lost an stand still then WHAM HOT RAZORS!
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 03:35:00 - [6] - Quote Seems like a pretty awesome fit I also have proto shotty but I think I miss 99% of the time when spotted I get spooked I have no clue how people kill well with them an distance I suck with em but will aventually have a a mini logi as the big brother to my scout since everything I'm spect into will make him monster scout! Some reason I do better in this game with knives than I ever could with a gun that needs aim lol maybe I should get my glasses fixed! My sub is a mean mofo an so is my faylock lol low CPU low pg everyone in the game is scared of em perfect knive back up weapon, if I miss a knife then flux boom boom reload run(YE IM THAT GUY LOL) But hell with 277 total hp I figure I'm allowed! But normally my scout uses just knives my gallente can fit not weapons. Sounds like you know what ur doing an have alot of sp. personally I would go mini basic light level 3 for a cost of maybe a weeks sp an use knives on that an get a ton of kills when it's a good tight city map an use gallente shotty when it gets tougher! Props to killing well with shotty tho I'm still yet to master it do I like the knives but Isee mini in ur future I think the extra mobility will blow u away an your gonna be a hard core kinder if you like it this much already
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 03:38:00 - [7] - Quote Both weapons on gallente ( stupid auto correct phone lol)
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 139	Posted - 2013.07.12 04:12:00 - [8] - Quote Personally every one has a radar, everyone has the option to make it better an almost every knife kill is in your blind spot so if your not tactical enough to check it or don't run with a squad that's like a hippo walking in a open field thinking its safe