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Sinboto Simmons Sver true blood Public Disorder. 605	Posted - 2013.07.11 10:03:00 - [31] - Quote Dale Templar wrote: Why are you trying to ruin a perfectly good game. If you want RPG, play EVE. Dust 514 is supposed to be a MMOFPSRPG additional content to the game will not ruin it but help it inch ever so closer to what it was supposed to be originally.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:11:00 - [32] - Quote Hunter Fencen wrote: How much better would it be if DUST walked a little away from its FPS side and more towards it MMO side? Imagine a series of open worlds (not majorly big but still) that you could explore with corp mates. Capsuleers drop you on a planet, you put on a nice looking suit before dropping, making the suit more like a EVE ship. You can explore the district in open world, clear out drone infestations, gather materials, set up outposts and of course have huge open world running wars that span whole huge districts, not set go in a game, fire bullets, make cash, like you do now but actual exploration, maybe finding that crucial ore deposit that makes millions for capsuleers. Oh and you can then incorparate loyalty points into this, clearing your nearby district of nasty space pirates has never been so rewarding :) With 7000 players and over what do I know how many planets? Is it a nice idea? Yes. Would it work? Not in a thousand years. You would need millions of players for it to be fun. If you don't have that many most of the time you would just look at an empty landscape.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 709	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:20:00 - [33] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Hunter Fencen wrote: How much better would it be if DUST walked a little away from its FPS side and more towards it MMO side? Imagine a series of open worlds (not majorly big but still) that you could explore with corp mates. Capsuleers drop you on a planet, you put on a nice looking suit before dropping, making the suit more like a EVE ship. You can explore the district in open world, clear out drone infestations, gather materials, set up outposts and of course have huge open world running wars that span whole huge districts, not set go in a game, fire bullets, make cash, like you do now but actual exploration, maybe finding that crucial ore deposit that makes millions for capsuleers. Oh and you can then incorparate loyalty points into this, clearing your nearby district of nasty space pirates has never been so rewarding :) With 7000 players and over what do I know how many planets? Is it a nice idea? Yes. Would it work? Not in a thousand years. You would need millions of players for it to be fun. If you don't have that many most of the time you would just look at an empty landscape. Open up new planets to explore as the playerbase expands, also not all planets in EVE are suitable for human life.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 125	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:21:00 - [34] - Quote Hunter Fencen wrote: How much better would it be if DUST walked a little away from its FPS side and more towards it MMO side? Imagine a series of open worlds (not majorly big but still) that you could explore with corp mates. Capsuleers drop you on a planet, you put on a nice looking suit before dropping, making the suit more like a EVE ship. You can explore the district in open world, clear out drone infestations, gather materials, set up outposts and of course have huge open world running wars that span whole huge districts, not set go in a game, fire bullets, make cash, like you do now but actual exploration, maybe finding that crucial ore deposit that makes millions for capsuleers. Oh and you can then incorparate loyalty points into this, clearing your nearby district of nasty space pirates has never been so rewarding :) sounds like quite the coding nightmare at this point... if this is what you want wait for destiny or titanfall
Soldiersaint Reaper Galactic 96	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:24:00 - [35] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Keep it FPS. Just add more MMO. Don't take some FPS away. Take the freaking fps away darn it.........we dont need that part -_- If I wanted FPS removed I'd go play Defiance... oh wait we all know how that game turned out. Almost the entire studio was fired. http://www.gamespot.com/news/layoffs-at-defiance-dev-report-6408548 you know what i meant by that ......true defiance was trash.even if it had fps it would still be trash. but hopefully the division will bring third person mmo shooters back
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 47	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:27:00 - [36] - Quote To be honest... this is actually what I thought DUST was gonna be like when I first seen it.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.07.11 11:35:00 - [37] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Hunter Fencen wrote: How much better would it be if DUST walked a little away from its FPS side and more towards it MMO side? Imagine a series of open worlds (not majorly big but still) that you could explore with corp mates. Capsuleers drop you on a planet, you put on a nice looking suit before dropping, making the suit more like a EVE ship. You can explore the district in open world, clear out drone infestations, gather materials, set up outposts and of course have huge open world running wars that span whole huge districts, not set go in a game, fire bullets, make cash, like you do now but actual exploration, maybe finding that crucial ore deposit that makes millions for capsuleers. Oh and you can then incorparate loyalty points into this, clearing your nearby district of nasty space pirates has never been so rewarding :) With 7000 players and over what do I know how many planets? Is it a nice idea? Yes. Would it work? Not in a thousand years. You would need millions of players for it to be fun. If you don't have that many most of the time you would just look at an empty landscape. Open up new planets to explore as the playerbase expands, also not all planets in EVE are suitable for human life. And then what? We have some planets which can actually interact with Eve Online and people in other region just ran out of luck? Planets suitable for life? There are still at least double as many as there are systems in Eve online. Not to mention that Dusties have these nice suits which can actually protect them on hazardous planets. It just wouldn't work.
Hunter Fencen ROGUE SPADES EoN. 42	Posted - 2013.07.11 12:22:00 - [38] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Hunter Fencen wrote: How much better would it be if DUST walked a little away from its FPS side and more towards it MMO side? Imagine a series of open worlds (not majorly big but still) that you could explore with corp mates. Capsuleers drop you on a planet, you put on a nice looking suit before dropping, making the suit more like a EVE ship. You can explore the district in open world, clear out drone infestations, gather materials, set up outposts and of course have huge open world running wars that span whole huge districts, not set go in a game, fire bullets, make cash, like you do now but actual exploration, maybe finding that crucial ore deposit that makes millions for capsuleers. Oh and you can then incorparate loyalty points into this, clearing your nearby district of nasty space pirates has never been so rewarding :) With 7000 players and over what do I know how many planets? Is it a nice idea? Yes. Would it work? Not in a thousand years. You would need millions of players for it to be fun. If you don't have that many most of the time you would just look at an empty landscape. Open up new planets to explore as the playerbase expands, also not all planets in EVE are suitable for human life. And then what? We have some planets which can actually interact with Eve Online and people in other region just ran out of luck? Planets suitable for life? There are still at least double as many as there are systems in Eve online. Not to mention that Dusties have these nice suits which can actually protect them on hazardous planets. It just wouldn't work. Then do it bit by bit. Start by doing one system, then slowly expand, yes it'd need a lot of people but if this was the game then people would flock to it. I agree having some planets unsuitable for life would be smart as it'd limit how much work would have to be done. Each planet is like a small server unless some (lets say 5 people) are on it at one time it closes down. Other planets will be NPC owned (high sec) and always open for missions. Most of EVE is empty space but its still fun which is a bit of a flaw to you logic, not insulting your view i see where you're coming from though
semperfi1999 Internal Error. League of Infamy 642	Posted - 2013.07.11 12:51:00 - [39] - Quote This is the second worst idea i have read on these forums (first was the idea of creating trophies).
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 52	Posted - 2013.07.11 12:54:00 - [40] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: This is the second worst idea i have read on these forums (first was the idea of creating trophies). You do know that they are actually going to make trophies. Right?

Hunter Fencen ROGUE SPADES EoN. 42	Posted - 2013.07.11 12:57:00 - [41] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: This is the second worst idea i have read on these forums (first was the idea of creating trophies). Care to expand? I mean where's the cutthroat New Eden in DUST atm?
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 617	Posted - 2013.07.11 13:41:00 - [42] - Quote The most fundamental, and jarring, difference between Eve and DUST is the lobby shooter match structure imposed in DUST. I think to get the show on the road it was the only way to go, CCP didn't really have a choice, they had to make a lobby shooter. From what's been said before by CCP devs they're as enamoured of the open world vision as we are, it's just a matter of time(i.e. years, prolly). But, for my money, it is the way we're headed. This is New Eden it does need to happen eventually, because lobby shooters are are the most safe, most sterile and most boring form of PvP - that's just so inferior the universe we mercs and pilots live in.
nukel head Knights of No Republic The Superpowers 51	Posted - 2013.07.11 16:29:00 - [43] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Keep it FPS. Just add more MMO. Don't take some FPS away. Take the freaking fps away darn it.........we dont need that part -_- Then why would you even play Dust? It was designed to be an FPS.
Hunter Fencen ROGUE SPADES EoN. 42	Posted - 2013.07.11 19:15:00 - [44] - Quote nukel head wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Keep it FPS. Just add more MMO. Don't take some FPS away. Take the freaking fps away darn it.........we dont need that part -_- Then why would you even play Dust? It was designed to be an FPS. No it was meant to be an MMORPGFPS
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 248	Posted - 2013.07.11 20:05:00 - [45] - Quote EKH0 0ne wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Keep it FPS. Just add more MMO. Don't take some FPS away. Take the freaking fps away darn it.........we dont need that part -_- If I wanted FPS removed I'd go play Defiance... oh wait we all know how that game turned out. Almost the entire studio was fired. http://www.gamespot.com/news/layoffs-at-defiance-dev-report-6408548 Defiance isnt a FPS game so theres that , and how could this game be more FPS? Yeah, Defiance is a TPS, and from what I hear, its a Crap one at that! I'll stick with DUST, Red Dead, GTA, AC, and Star Wars Battlefront 1 in my game line up, thank you.
Cyrille Fodeux Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.07.11 20:19:00 - [46] - Quote The FPS side is okay. There is too little EVE for New Eden. I don't mean only matchmaking and open world but also stats and design.


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