DUST Search - when did ambush have a proto onlu rule

CCP Eterne wrote:

The dev blog we put out on Tuesday was our Uprising + the Future dev blog.

If you want a more detailed look at our roadmap, here are the things we'll be working on over the coming months.

Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST.
Improving controls for aiming
Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better
Making sure all battles hit a consistent 30 FPS minimum for our current max battle sizes
Improving vehicle movement
Balancing vehicles so each has a role and is balanced both versus other vehicles and infantry
Improving infantry movement
Making getting into battles provide more context about what's going on, why you're fighting, etc.
Improving Planetary Conquest and making it more meaningful and interesting to be involved with
Improving Factional Warfare, making it more interesting, and rewarding players who are loyal to a faction somehow
Fixing bugs and exploits
Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make
Improving situational awareness tools through the UI
Improving the fitting experience through UI and better integration with the market

There are also things that are not high level roadmap stuff that we'll be working on. Stuff like the addition of snow in Uprising 1.2 is a good example of this. For example, we have some other graphical improvements coming in 1.3, such as some changes to sites and scopes to improve visibility in certain environments, which are not "Roadmap" items but are still important fixes nonetheless.

We don't have set-in-stone dates for when certain things are coming. It's also not really possible to share the nitty gritty details of each roadmap item at the moment, for a variety of reasons.

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steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 861	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:03:00 - [1] - Quote Because their is no way in hell you can compete in their with out it. It's frankly shocking that ccp thinks that's ok it's so un EvE it's unreal. In eve you choose your own level of risk. In Dust514 you chose which came mode your going to get clan stacked or proto stomped. And don't say HTFU because in this case it's ******** argument. The game has fundamitly broken here and it's extra bad this week because of event. Normal players don't have a chance
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 702	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Because their is no way in hell you can compete in their with out it. It's frankly shocking that ccp thinks that's ok it's so un EvE it's unreal. In eve you choose your own level of risk. In Dust514 you chose which came mode your going to get clan stacked or proto stomped. And don't say HTFU because in this case it's ******** argument. The game has fundamitly broken here and it's extra bad this week because of event. Normal players don't have a chance CCP should make all suits have the same amount of slots but limit them in CPU and PG, this will reduce the gap between proto and basic but still keep basic being a better suit.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 388	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:10:00 - [3] - Quote Coming into Dust was easier back in early 2013 because nobody had black suits at the time. On the flip side, you can get advanced suits with proto weapons and modules for like 4 mil SP, so it doesnt take very long.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2592	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:21:00 - [4] - Quote I've honestly been wondering what the game would be like if you removed everything but standard gear but buffed the PG/CPU of the suits while also lowering module/equipment/weapon requirements. I mean if infantry were brought more in line with vehicles were everything is effectively the same tier, things could either be interesting or utterly terrible.
Sgt Buttscratch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 407	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:45:00 - [5] - Quote Starting up the bottom you gotta pick up the scraps. Best done with a laser rifle and flux grenades, take what you can assists KS, laser fatties(the only character lasers work on). not many people worry about taking laser riflers out, they are seen as more of a cuddly puppy than a pitbul with aids
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 523	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:51:00 - [6] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Because their is no way in hell you can compete in their with out it. It's frankly shocking that ccp thinks that's ok it's so un EvE it's unreal. In eve you choose your own level of risk. In Dust514 you chose which came mode your going to get clan stacked or proto stomped. And don't say HTFU because in this case it's ******** argument. The game has fundamitly broken here and it's extra bad this week because of event. Normal players don't have a chance i'm curious....what part of "we're working on match making to solve this exact issue" seems like they think it's fine?
Serimos Haeraven Deep Space Republic Top Men. 222	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:51:00 - [7] - Quote Allow me to point this one out for you guys worried they won't fix this issue.. CCP Eterne wrote: The dev blog we put out on Tuesday was our Uprising + the Future dev blog. If you want a more detailed look at our roadmap, here are the things we'll be working on over the coming months. Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST. Improving controls for aiming Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better Making sure all battles hit a consistent 30 FPS minimum for our current max battle sizes Improving vehicle movement Balancing vehicles so each has a role and is balanced both versus other vehicles and infantry Improving infantry movement Making getting into battles provide more context about what's going on, why you're fighting, etc. Improving Planetary Conquest and making it more meaningful and interesting to be involved with Improving Factional Warfare, making it more interesting, and rewarding players who are loyal to a faction somehow Fixing bugs and exploits Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make Improving situational awareness tools through the UI Improving the fitting experience through UI and better integration with the market There are also things that are not high level roadmap stuff that we'll be working on. Stuff like the addition of snow in Uprising 1.2 is a good example of this. For example, we have some other graphical improvements coming in 1.3, such as some changes to sites and scopes to improve visibility in certain environments, which are not "Roadmap" items but are still important fixes nonetheless. We don't have set-in-stone dates for when certain things are coming. It's also not really possible to share the nitty gritty details of each roadmap item at the moment, for a variety of reasons.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2671	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:52:00 - [8] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: when did ambush have a proto only rule when hasn't it? I stopped playing Ambush a long time ago since i realize if you wanna tryhard and stroke your epeen, that's where to do it. Tanks and proto gear. I see proto gear in Skirmish too, but it's not as much as I see in lolAmbush.
Logi Stician The Vanguardians 11	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:02:00 - [9] - Quote I've had this game for 20 or so days and when I see squaded-up elites rockin' protos and the like, I jump in a free suit, drop hives and uplinks and wait for the carnage. All those respawns in those horrible horrible massacres are paying for my eventual proto gear acquisition. I really admire the coordination that a lot of these folks have, Seemingly everywhere at once, spread out but with fire focused on single targets; it inspires awe. All the while: team respawn +25, team respawn +25, team respawn +25, team respawn +25, team respawn +25. . .
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 861	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:03:00 - [10] - Quote For the matchmaking I will belive it when I see it lol. Just frustrated post really think there needs to be gear lock outs based on game type. Mirroring how eve does it

Sgt Buttscratch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 409	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:09:00 - [11] - Quote a good way of matchmaking would be to assign a level to SP amounts, then giving matches a level amount max. say 10+million SP was level 5, max total in match is 50 level points per side. one side might only have 10 players, who are all level 5, other could have 16. if that makes sense.
Bubba Brown Militaires Sans Jeux 197	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:12:00 - [12] - Quote large corps roll lots of quick ambush matches to make large sums of isk very quickly. or whatever reason, these corp squads never need to face one another, it's always corp squad vs randoms i chalk this up to a failure in the matchmaking system
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 389	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:25:00 - [13] - Quote Bubba Brown wrote: large corps roll lots of quick ambush matches to make large sums of isk very quickly. or whatever reason, these corp squads never need to face one another, it's always corp squad vs randoms i chalk this up to a failure in the matchmaking system I roll with my Alliance a lot and unfortunately, it ends in a lot of pub stomps. Don't get me wrong, I love being a masshole and armor tank in ambush vs 16 blueberries as much as the next guy, but it gets old, which is why I love PC battles. Challenge is fun.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 843	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:27:00 - [14] - Quote From what I can tell.. matchmaking won't solve this issue at all. It will help with the one-sided matches we all deal with, but in terms of proto vs. std gear, I don't think matchmaking is going to put guys with high sp in their own games and guys with low SP in their own games... what its going to do is even out the teams so you don't see 3 squads on one side and all npc corps on the other. So on an individual basis... guys without proto gear will still be facing guys with proto gear.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN. 18	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:31:00 - [15] - Quote I usually don't play ambushes but played them exclusively after capping to take advantage of the 3x SP event. I'm hoping that the influx of Proto in ambush seen during this period was also due to proto players wanting to make their 1000/1500 SP in very quick games with minimal effort (just reaching 334 WP).
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 843	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:35:00 - [16] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: CCP should make all suits have the same amount of slots but limit them in CPU and PG, this will reduce the gap between proto and basic but still keep proto being a better suit. I've made two threads about this in feedback section. I think its a great idea. Helps with scaling forward into new tiers too. Could you imagine having officer cal logi with 7 highs and 5 lows? Or going into null sec with a deadspace cal logi with 11 highs and 7 lows? At some point it seems rather absurd...
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 746	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Because their is no way in hell you can compete in their with out it. It's frankly shocking that ccp thinks that's ok it's so un EvE it's unreal. In eve you choose your own level of risk. In Dust514 you chose which came mode your going to get clan stacked or proto stomped. And don't say HTFU because in this case it's ******** argument. The game has fundamitly broken here and it's extra bad this week because of event. Normal players don't have a chance That rule came in when they reduced the price of almost everything, and then converted the months worth of salvage of beta players into pure isk. Giving most of them several hundred million isk, which is more than can be realistically spent on anything outside of PC.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Top Men. 575	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:36:00 - [18] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: From what I can tell.. matchmaking won't solve this issue at all. It will help with the one-sided matches we all deal with, but in terms of proto vs. std gear, I don't think matchmaking is going to put guys with high sp in their own games and guys with low SP in their own games... what its going to do is even out the teams so you don't see 3 squads on one side and all npc corps on the other. So on an individual basis... guys without proto gear will still be facing guys with proto gear. Quote: I don't think matchmaking is going to put guys with high sp in their own games and guys with low SP in their own games Well the E3 video says matchmaking will do this....but this is CCP we are talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv_zxFjP6Q
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 862	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:46:00 - [19] - Quote That's fine if it was mixed up but at thr moment matchescan end up newb vs vets and this has been an issue since closed beta and is not really very good that it's dragged on so long


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