With those new numbers you can actually make money by self-locking your districts. But it will be boring to do.

Here's how it goes.

Status : District A mother corp. 300/300clones.
Attack by alt corp : 30 Million.
Status : District A locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || Auto-sell : 12M
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || Auto-sell : 12M
Day 2, Fight happens during the RT : Alt corps fields at least one player with BPO crap stuff and suicides all the genopack clones. Mother corp fields one player as well. Fight reward : 15M

End of cycle : ISK result = 12+12+15-30 = 9 Million. Add another 6 million if the district is a production facility.

Start again.

WHEN DOES THIS GET RELEASED?
All of these changes will be coming to Tranquility during downtime on July 11th. That is two days from the release of this dev blog. That is assuming no one points out glaring problems with the plan. If that happens we can and will delay the release, for now though, July 11th! :D

Summary: We are insane, these changes are coming soon, what is going on!

The devblog specifically states that this is coming on 11th July.

edit: https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/balancing-the-conquest-of-planets/

LOL
Just another example of CCP and its Devs having no clue on WTF they are doing.

Epic fail team True Tards, lol.

Release delayed.

Also a great example of CCP's player base doing all of CCP's QA testing for them.

Ohhhhhh, lets keep this blah, blah, blah info secret and then give it to them just 2 day before release and see if anyone misses all the loop holes in our uneducated Development skills.

True Tards are proud to present to you all graphs and charts of blah, blah, blah.

Yeah that was a great distraction, they won't notice our true fail if we whooo them with pictures.

Hey Foxtard do us all a favor please, just stop. You and True Tards just please stop. Its becoming very sad to watch TBH.

You are all assuming they didn't know about it :P

You are all assuming they didn't know about it :P

Hi, OP here. I'm not mad at CCP for not spotting the loophole that has been identified, why are you?

What's sad to watch is self-entitled sperging idiots like you who act like assholes. Get a life mate.

You can take this further:

Here's how to exploit the new system such that you can earn all your income from all your districts without threat of attack or actually losing them.

What you need:
2 corps, each with equal numbers of districts
30 mil isk

What you do:
Attack in the following pattern, in order
http://i.imgur.com/cm4FuOy.png

Outcome:
District 1b: 2x RT + 150 clones killed = 12 + 12 + 15 = 39 mil
District 1a: 2x RT + 150 clones killed - 150 clones sent = 12 + 12 + 15 - 15 = 24 mil
District 2b: 2x RT + 150 clones killed - 150 clones sent = 12 + 12 + 15 - 15 = 24 mil
District 2a: 2x RT + 150 clones killed - 150 clones sent = 12 + 12 + 15 - 15 = 24 mil
Merc pack: 30 mil spent by Corp B

Corp A: 24 + 24 = 48 mil
Corp B: 39 + 24 - 30 = 33 mil

i.e.
Corp A = 12 mil per district per day
Corp B = 12 mil per district per day - 1x clone pack every 2 days

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So what we have is 4 districts that are just as safe as per Cazaderon's method, except you've only have to pay for a single clone pack.

This can be extended to any number of districts, and still only cost you 1 clone pack.

Here's my proposed solution:

Clones produced by a district whilst it is under attack cannot be sold to Genolution, and so once the clone count is up the district max of 300 or 450 then they are just 'lost'.

Outcome:
You can still shield districts from attack for strategic reasons (in order to keep them or to allow them to become reinforced) but you can never do it for economic reasons since it will always cost you isk.

I think the Genolution clone pack price is about right, tbh. Please don't adjust it.

Can ou develop, i dont really see what you mean there.

I don't think this well nearly be the issue that you guys make it out to be... however one simple change could make this really quick and easy.

If you lose an attack on a district you are locked for X hours from starting a new one. Where X could be 3-4 hours.

When defender wins, attacker already loses exclusivity to attack, allowing a hostile corp attack, its just who's quicker to move clones really.

If you want to sit and lock down all of your districts when no one was going to attack anyways, than all you're doing is throwing away half your income... not very smart imo.

Example 1
Status : District 1a Corp A . 300/300 clones.
Attack by Corp B : District 1a locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || Cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 80 clones lost.
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || Cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 80 clones lost.

Example 2
Status : District 1a Corp A . 150/300 clones.
Attack by Corp B : District 1a locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || 230/300 clones
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || 300/300 clones. Excess of 10 clones cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 10 clones lost.

Hmmm, i'm very much not liking lost clones. In general, nature doesnt like things disappearing.
It feels like a massive double penalty for the defender.

The devblog specifically states that this is coming on 11th July.

edit: https://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/balancing-the-conquest-of-planets/

how would ccp only have two days?? we dont even know when the hell 1.3 will be other than soon

Well yes, but the post I was replying to said


..and so I was letting them know (with evidence) that the PC changes were/are intended for 11th July, hence the legitimacy of the "2 days to fix it" comments.

also for aspiring corps that want to make their isk or whatever.... districts are still available but going fast!!

Great job absolute, glad this was noticed before it went live and ccp thought there was just lots's of battles taking place. People would exploit this, no matter how many say it is unlikely.. give them the means to abuse, and it will be abused.

o most definitely... give an inch and we'll take a mile

Here's my proposed solution:

Clones produced by a district whilst it is under attack cannot be sold to Genolution, and so once the clone count is up the district max of 300 or 450 then they are just 'lost'.

Outcome:
You can still shield districts from attack for strategic reasons (in order to keep them or to allow them to become reinforced) but you can never do it for economic reasons since it will always cost you isk.

I think the Genolution clone pack price is about right, tbh. Please don't adjust it.

Yes we are aware of the potential for corporations to lock a district and still make money. We will have an update for you guys as soon as possible for now please keep discussion of the Planetary Conquest update to this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1039888#post1039888

Hi, OP here. I'm not mad at CCP for not spotting the loophole that has been identified, why are you?

What's sad to watch is self-entitled sperging idiots like you who act like assholes. Get a life mate.

My rage got you to call me the A-hole, this I find funny.

What are you, 9?

Whatever your reasons may be, it doesn't change the fact that you're being a douche nozzle

I have to give all you Neck Beard Fanboys credit, you all sure do stick up for each other.

Yet another personal attack from a person I have not attacked.

It's kind of stupid to see the stereotypes that people call other people

" Go back to your mother's basement you neckbeard"------ What?

"My life is better than yours"------- Do you know how he lives his life?


Stereotypes bring out the real people

What's sad to watch is self-entitled sperging idiots like you who act like assholes. Get a life mate.

I believe you missed the very first stereo type used by th OP in the personal attack against me,

What is this? The playground?

"Boohoo he called me this "

Get over it.

This is why we like to have things announced in further advance.

So we can point out the broken before the broken becomes reality.