DUST Search - Most versitile Logi suit?

Morrigan Uroboros wrote:

Nix Vulken wrote:

Morrigan Uroboros wrote:

I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus.

The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end?

Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P

Minmatar, 4h/4l/4e. Need I say more?

If the answer for you is yes then WAKE UP! Minmatar also can go armor or shield (much like an amarr) unlike cal and gall and has boosted hack speed...

P.S 4 EQUIPMENT SLOTS... AKA all 4 items. Easy 2k wp per game for anyone who's not duh duh duh.

All 4 items? I think your forgetting active scanners and remote explosives :P

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Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.10 04:47:00 - [1] - Quote I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus. The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end? Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 760	Posted - 2013.07.10 04:49:00 - [2] - Quote All of them have their highs and lows tbh. ...Except for Caldari Logi because CCP has always had a hard on for Caldari.
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 1778	Posted - 2013.07.10 04:58:00 - [3] - Quote Def Minmatar, I can explain if you like: Just so you know I am speaking of the proto versions when I compare suits. The first thing to look at on the Min Logi is speed, it has a large amount of speed over the other logi's, and with that speed you can speed tank, or equip armor plates to give yourself an EHP boost and still end with the same speed as the other suits. Though it may have the lowest base health, it also has the most well-rounded slots; four of each. Four and four gives you great dual tank abilities, which is the best form of tanking, which leads to high survivability, and with the inherent logistics self-repair, it is always ready for the next fight even if it loses a large percentage of armor. The racial bonus, when coupled with Systems Hacking, literally doubles your hacking speed, which makes you a one-man army or the best support unit, whichever you choose. It is also tied for the most amount of equipment. Plus you don't look half as banana-ish as the Yellowdari Logi does.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 737	Posted - 2013.07.10 04:59:00 - [4] - Quote Seems like your primary concern is survivability. The Cal is the way to go for you.
Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.10 05:12:00 - [5] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Def Minmatar, I can explain if you like: Just so you know I am speaking of the proto versions when I compare suits. The first thing to look at on the Min Logi is speed, it has a large amount of speed over the other logi's, and with that speed you can speed tank, or equip armor plates to give yourself an EHP boost and still end with the same speed as the other suits. Though it may have the lowest base health, it also has the most well-rounded slots; four of each. Four and four gives you great dual tank abilities, which is the best form of tanking, which leads to high survivability, and with the inherent logistics self-repair, it is always ready for the next fight even if it loses a large percentage of armor. The racial bonus, when coupled with Systems Hacking, literally doubles your hacking speed, which makes you a one-man army or the best support unit, whichever you choose. It is also tied for the most amount of equipment. Plus you don't look half as banana-ish as the Yellowdari Logi does. I am rather enjoying dual tanking, it helps a lot with and flux grenade lobbed my way, but armor seams to be weaker in general than shields with all the mass drivers around now. I do find survivabillity to be very important, what use is a logi with a needle when hes the first to fall? :P. My main annoyance is that is dosen't have the same skill trees as eve. It would be so much better if the specialisations were treated like T2 ships, get your medium suit for your race to 5, then logi suit skill is the same for any with your racial prerequisites
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Bojo's School of the Trades 151	Posted - 2013.07.10 05:16:00 - [6] - Quote Amarr proto logi to me, because it has a highly unique bonus
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 64	Posted - 2013.07.10 05:20:00 - [7] - Quote Fitting damage mods for all the slots on the caldari logi is a death wish unless of course you're sniping. I might take off 1 complex shield extender for a complex damage mod.
Cosgar ParagonX 2575	Posted - 2013.07.10 05:32:00 - [8] - Quote Minmatar or Gallente are the best all around logis. You can't go wrong with either one when it comes to versatility. I use the Minmatar, but if we ever got another respec, I'd have to sit and think for a while, deciding whether or not to go Gallente.
Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.11 04:01:00 - [9] - Quote hackerzilla wrote: Fitting damage mods for all the slots on the caldari logi is a death wish unless of course you're sniping. I might take off 1 complex shield extender for a complex damage mod. Haha, I wasn't meaning 5 damage mods, more along the lines of 3 complex sheilds, complex recharger and damage mod would give a good tank still while having choice for my highs. I just put one point into cal logi and played around with the advanced aurum suit. And I have to say it felt much nicer to me. around the same effective health but with it mostly in shield, around 600ehp 400/200 split. Im wondering how gal is the most well rounded? I can see it will be the easist to fit, and also has the 4 equipment slots, but with such an emphasis on armor tanking surly you are too slow and easy to kill?
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 523	Posted - 2013.07.11 04:23:00 - [10] - Quote Funny, I was just making this decision tonight on an alt, I ended up with amaar because of the crazy armor tanking bonus and because of the fact that out of all the suits it had the highest shield/armor ratio. Stack shield extenders on the highs, 1 nice repairer and two plates on the lows and you're golden, armor reps so fast it'll blow your mind.

Knightshade Belladonna Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 602	Posted - 2013.07.11 04:28:00 - [11] - Quote Real Men Hull Tank Gallente Logi!
Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.11 04:51:00 - [12] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: Funny, I was just making this decision tonight on an alt, I ended up with amaar because of the crazy armor tanking bonus and because of the fact that out of all the suits it had the highest shield/armor ratio. Stack shield extenders on the highs, 1 nice repairer and two plates on the lows and you're golden, armor reps so fast it'll blow your mind. I did originally like the idea of ammar, with the side arm.... only I noticed that it dosent get it till proto level, which tbf would take me around a few months to get there with the other skills i need on the way. Thing is, the bonus is only going to add 1.25 armor a second to a complex repper and it dosent feel like a worth while passive concidering the low amount of slots
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2013.07.11 04:59:00 - [13] - Quote Min Logi: Scout Like (speed plus hacking plus equipment makes this a good scout) Cal Logi: Heavy Like (high hp and slowest) Gal Logi: Pure Logi (biggest bonus to going heavy into equipment) Amarr Logi: Assault Like (less logi slots for a sidearm at proto)
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 382	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:08:00 - [14] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Min Logi: Scout Like (speed plus hacking plus equipment makes this a good scout) Cal Logi: Heavy Like (high hp and slowest) Gal Logi: Pure Logi (biggest bonus to going heavy into equipment) Amarr Logi: Assault Like (less logi slots for a sidearm at proto) My more longwinded version: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=982757#post982757 It's whatever, they're all viable. Amarr less so as pure logi.
Nix Vulken Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 28	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:28:00 - [15] - Quote Morrigan Uroboros wrote: I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus. The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end? Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P Minmatar, 4h/4l/4e. Need I say more? If the answer for you is yes then WAKE UP! Minmatar also can go armor or shield (much like an amarr) unlike cal and gall and has boosted hack speed... P.S 4 EQUIPMENT SLOTS... AKA all 4 items. Easy 2k wp per game for anyone who's not duh duh duh.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 183	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:32:00 - [16] - Quote Except the lolCalLogi the most viable one imo is the Minmatar. Fast, can tank shields, lots of equipment and hacking speed for turning the tide in skirmish. For ambush well, lolCalLogi. -XOXO
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 382	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:36:00 - [17] - Quote Nix Vulken wrote: Morrigan Uroboros wrote: I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus. The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end? Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P Minmatar, 4h/4l/4e. Need I say more? If the answer for you is yes then WAKE UP! Minmatar also can go armor or shield (much like an amarr) unlike cal and gall and has boosted hack speed... P.S 4 EQUIPMENT SLOTS... AKA all 4 items. Easy 2k wp per game for anyone who's not duh duh duh. Lack of 1 of Needle, Uplink, or Rep really sucks. I mean, go cal logi go, but yeh, wish I had 4 slots. Would give up the 5th high at this point tbh.
Morrigan Uroboros The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:37:00 - [18] - Quote Nix Vulken wrote: Morrigan Uroboros wrote: I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus. The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end? Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P Minmatar, 4h/4l/4e. Need I say more? If the answer for you is yes then WAKE UP! Minmatar also can go armor or shield (much like an amarr) unlike cal and gall and has boosted hack speed... P.S 4 EQUIPMENT SLOTS... AKA all 4 items. Easy 2k wp per game for anyone who's not duh duh duh. All 4 items? I think your forgetting active scanners and remote explosives :P
Cosgar ParagonX 2612	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:38:00 - [19] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Amarr Logi: Assault Like (less logi slots for a sidearm at proto) Speaking of Amarr, if they gave it a sidearm at all levels, I'd be okay with that.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 382	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:52:00 - [20] - Quote Morrigan Uroboros wrote: Nix Vulken wrote: Morrigan Uroboros wrote: I'm currently using the minmatar logi suit, only spect upto adv level so far. I originally chose it because i though it would be a versitile suit with its balance of slots, however I'm finding that as far as the fit goes there isnt alot of options. I have to dual tank to get the suit to survive in its roll. But when playing as logi I know that getting my armor repped is quite rare. I just keep thinking that the caldari suit would give me more options. The larger shield and high slots would mean I could focus mainly on shield tanking, or going more of a gank fit with damage mods. And also my low slots would have much more options, I could fit an armor tank, or use CPU or PG upgrades if needed, and the option of biotics or code breakers, matching the minmatar logi bonus. The only downside I can see is the 3 equipment slots at proto level, but triage nanohives could take the place of a rep tool if I wanted drop links. So is this a fair judgement, that what looks like the most diverse suit originally is pretty strict on its fittings in the end? Btw this is as a logi roll, not to make a proto cal logi to bunny hop and kill everyone with as a strong assault suit.... although I admit the option to do it could be rather fun :P Minmatar, 4h/4l/4e. Need I say more? If the answer for you is yes then WAKE UP! Minmatar also can go armor or shield (much like an amarr) unlike cal and gall and has boosted hack speed... P.S 4 EQUIPMENT SLOTS... AKA all 4 items. Easy 2k wp per game for anyone who's not duh duh duh. All 4 items? I think your forgetting active scanners and remote explosives :P scanners work better on scouts. RE/demo guy is a whole niche in itself outside team support.

rebecca watson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 70	Posted - 2013.07.11 07:30:00 - [21] - Quote I don't think you will be dissappointed in either cal or Min logi. I personally think cal proto logi is a little unbalanced atm, but you won't hear me whining about it too much. the only downside to it, running it as a true logi, is it's 3 equipment slots. However, the shield and overall hp bonus is a big deal, and slotwise (many highs and lows) it's still versatile. I run Minmatar logi, and I love it. It is king of versatility. Heres the thing though. You are going to sacrifice raw hp. You are going to have to invest skill points in many different areas, in order to capitalize on the potential versatility the suit has. You need to be smarter about cover, and use your speed to your advantage. this includes skilling up passive repair, and using general awareness and forethought. So yeah, the sp dump: shield sp? Max armor sp (ignore plates past lvl 1) otherwise: Max fitting requirement sp? Max hacking mods? more sp capitolizing on the sprint/movement speed? Ever looked at the skill tree for kinetic biotics? It is awesomely versatile though, and i'm glad im specced into it. But it's a never ending sp sink when i figure out new fits. nevermind my eventual cross train into minmatar assualt.....
Hawkings Greenback Red Star Jr. 46	Posted - 2013.07.11 07:47:00 - [22] - Quote rebecca watson wrote: It is awesomely versatile though, and i'm glad im specced into it. But it's a never ending sp sink when i figure out new fits. nevermind my eventual cross train into minmatar assualt..... My feelings exactly, I love my minnilogi just for the versatilty it offers.
Mechoj Nomreps Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 52	Posted - 2013.07.11 09:21:00 - [23] - Quote I was minmatar logi before uprising and stayed with it, for me there is no better logi. Most time is use two or three enhanced armor plates and one or two complex shield extenders. My highs are used mostly for damage mods. The real nice thing about this suit is that you can give it multiple roles which i do with my advanced suit my proto suit is even better but not so much used: dedicated team logi: - three enhanced plates - one complex shield - two complex damage mods - Remote, k2 -hive or R-9 uplink - kin 12 injector - BDR2 repairer - GLU 5 AR or exile Sniper: - three enhanced dampners - three complex damage mods - hive - uplink - remote explosives scout: - Enhanced kinetic katalyser - Enhanced cardiac regulator - Enhanced dampner - three complex shield extenders - Remote explosives - R-9 uplink - injector - shotgun Do keep in mind that my CPU is maxed, combat engineering is at level 4 and core dropsuit upgrades is also maxed
Shiney Berbles Nephilim Initiative 6	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:13:00 - [24] - Quote After reading through here I think for the type of logi I want to run I think that minmatar logi is the best option. My reasons are I can shield tank plus a little armor tank. I can also carry a reper, injector, uplink and ammo. With these tools I can keep the front line alive and resupplied. Strickly support, I do not need a side arm for I will be standing behind my team (literally ;-)). I am currently using the dren logi and I feel the minmatar logi is the beefed up version which will suit my perpose. Its all about how you you want to spec.. My example is that using the dren which is 2 high, 2 low and 3 equipment slots I was able to pull a 2600wp match, if I had 2 more high and low plus 1 more equipment slots I can only imagine the possibilities!
reydient ROGUE SPADES EoN. 42	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:43:00 - [25] - Quote Caldari have the highest survivability in my opinion: if you have complex shield extenders and proto AR, you can play, " lets shoot each other until one falls down" no fourth equipment slot :-( If you want a really good team player: they can stack the best gear and get 25% reduction in equipment slots - Gallente, the draw back is that armor tanking is currently in the air as compared to shields and ALL gallente need armor tank- unlike a shield tank-A gallente warrior will need to skill dropsuit biotics and shields plus extenders, to be a contender- but its a really good team player Minmatar is just to well rounded- You have room to play multiple styles but you are unable to exceed in one area The amarr logi- there has been some debate because yes ,they could use some buff- but with the reactive plates and the complex armor repair - these guys can have a repair rate of almost 12 to 15 hp a second- thats as good as some shields- plus they get a secondary weapon slot( we call this versatile ) it like the commando but with more modules- so yeah you ll need to upgrade the PG cause they suck but when played right- hes a beast- FINAL WORD: IF YOU HAVE YOUR CORE SKILLS UP IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT CLASS YOU PICK
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 855	Posted - 2013.07.11 18:49:00 - [26] - Quote Cal Logi is by far the most powerful logi class because it has the only combat relevant racial bonus. Gallente logi is for the 'true logis' with a hard on for CPU/PG req... but imo.. meh.. its not worth it. Amarr logi is just all around a bad suit. It has the least slots, the slowest move speed, and still only 3 equip slots. This was designed purely for lone wolf snipers imo. The racial bonus is so lol. Min Log... hacking bonus sounds good... but imo its a terrible bonus. This logi is good for speed shotgun fits cause it has the highest base speed with which to stack 2 complex kin cats on.. but otherwise... meh.. I start min logi on my first respec, and then went cal logi on my second respec. Cal logi is way better. Until they either nerf the cal logi or redo the awful racial bonuses for everyone else... cal logis will always be superior.
General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2013.07.11 19:26:00 - [27] - Quote It's hard to be a jack-of -all-trades when you're dead, logibro.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 272	Posted - 2013.07.11 19:55:00 - [28] - Quote Minmatar is probably the most survivable. Speed, plus the ability to tank shields armor or both means lots of setup possibilities. Gallente is not quite as versatile. Its called the best pure support logi, but it can do more than just that. The saved PG/CPU from equipment that is the suits bonus leaves it really easy to fit however you want. The Logi G-1 is outclassed by the M-1 because the m-1 has two extra highslots for free basically. Once you get to the ADV level, the G/1-series is much more competitive and versatile, gaining 2 hislots and a 3rd low. You can use the highslots for some shield buffer to help in your support role, or you can play more aggressively and use them for damage mods and a weapon. With the saving in fittings from the suits bonus, an adv gal logi can run a duvolle and damage mods and do some scary dps, without sacrificing on equipment or armor tank.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 169	Posted - 2013.07.11 21:20:00 - [29] - Quote Gallente and Minmatar are the best. I went Gallente because it was my goal to carry proto everything in all 4 eq slots and that's only possible with Gallente if you want to have any kind of HP. I save about 80 CPU and 15 PG thanks to the racial bonus. I'll spec into Minmatar one day. It will probably be my eWAR logi due to speed, hacking and overall versatility.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 765	Posted - 2013.07.11 23:12:00 - [30] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: It will probably be my eWAR logi due to speed, hacking and overall versatility. Electronic Warfare, Coming 2019



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