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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:06:00 -
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The CEP has formally eliminated the position of State Executor formerly held by Tibus Heth. It has also reaffirmed the illegal status of the Templis Dragonaurs and dissolved what was left of the Provists.
I really have to applaud the move. With luck, the megacorporate leadership will remember the lessons of the last few years and maintain the State meritocracy in good working order. |
Kain Spero
Internal Error.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:18:00 -
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It's good to see the State finally fix the mistake that was the creation of the State Executor position, and good riddance to Heth. He was no friend to the state or the loyal clone soldiers that served it. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:44:00 -
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What will this mean for the States leadership now I wonder? |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.07.09 22:46:00 -
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The bars are going to be full tonight boys, and drinks are all on me! Let's all have a toast to the removal of the hnolku-tyuui Heth! It is good to see liberty alive in the State! Here is to a new dawn for the Caldari! For the State, and for us all!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu! Kanpani! |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.09 23:09:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:The bars are going to be full tonight boys, and drinks are all on me! Let's all have a toast to the removal of the hnolku-tyuui Heth! It is good to see liberty alive in the State! Here is to a new dawn for the Caldari! For the State, and for us all!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu! Kanpani!
May I remind you that your absolute loyalty is still expected by the state, we are not liberalist Gallenteans sir. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.07.09 23:26:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:The bars are going to be full tonight boys, and drinks are all on me! Let's all have a toast to the removal of the hnolku-tyuui Heth! It is good to see liberty alive in the State! Here is to a new dawn for the Caldari! For the State, and for us all!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu! Kanpani! May I remind you that your absolute loyalty is still expected by the state, we are not liberalist Gallenteans sir.
Forgive me Ouryon-haan, the men have been needing a good boost of esprit de corps recently. If anything, I aim to reinforce heiian by celebrating a brilliant corporate maneuver on the part of the State.
Believe me, I am loyal to our State. And if you would allow, I aim to prove that by helping Mordu's Legion drive every Dragonaur out of Caldari space.
Anvatkaa, moitte. |
Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2013.07.09 23:34:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:The bars are going to be full tonight boys, and drinks are all on me! Let's all have a toast to the removal of the hnolku-tyuui Heth! It is good to see liberty alive in the State! Here is to a new dawn for the Caldari! For the State, and for us all!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu! Kanpani! May I remind you that your absolute loyalty is still expected by the state, we are not liberalist Gallenteans sir. Forgive me Ouryon-haan, the men have been needing a good boost of esprit de corps recently. If anything, I aim to reinforce heiian by celebrating a brilliant corporate maneuver on the part of the State. Believe me, I am loyal to our State. And if you would allow, I aim to prove that by helping Mordu's Legion drive every Dragonaur out of Caldari space. Anvatkaa, moitte.
True to the State.
Such a move by the Corpotate boards is indeed a benefit to our people.
It's not my place to say what one can or cannot do for his nation, if Mordu's is your way of aiding the State then so be it.
As a Deitis it is only my duty to provide a strong example for our people, and to remind us of what we are. A proud, independent, powerful, and loyal nation. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:08:00 -
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A welcome move for the stability of the nation and new eden it self. I still worry though he is still out their I can only hope we find him quickly to put an end to his madness |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2013.07.10 15:12:00 -
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I think there is only 1 option what will happen,heth and templis dragonaurs will stir up something what will break gallente-minmatar alliance.After that they will start bloody civil war with minmatar help(minmatars help bcause that will help them against ammarrians)If heth win civil war caldaris will side with minmatars bcause they helped him back to power.So i say you my galletean brothers and sisters BE READY |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:22:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:I think there is only 1 option what will happen,heth and templis dragonaurs will stir up something what will break gallente-minmatar alliance.After that they will start bloody civil war with minmatar help(minmatars help bcause that will help them against ammarrians)If heth win civil war caldaris will side with minmatars bcause they helped him back to power.So i say you my galletean brothers and sisters BE READY
Um ... respectfully, soldier, this reads more like a holo-thriller plot than a likely reality.
Tibus Heth has demonstrated audacity and some minor talent for strategy. However, the Templis Dragonaurs are merely a tiny minority of hard-line, racist Caldari nativists. The thing to fear from them is not their separate military might, but the allure of their ideas to the ethnic Caldari of the laborer and technician castes. The solutions they offer have a sort of simplistic appeal: the Caldari State for the Caldari people alone, the expulsion of the client states and non-ethnic Caldari, a return to the glory of the Raata Empire before anyone on Caldari Prime had ever heard the word, "Gallente."
They are the shadow of the Caldari State, something hateful that insinuates itself where discontent rises. It is not a coincidence that Tibus Heth's rise was a result of a popular revolt.
But absent popular support-- and make no mistake, they have lost it-- they are nothing, reduced to a shadow once more. |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 02:28:00 -
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At least now the mega corps can get back to raising each others bars of technological innovation, instead of plotting to kill Heth. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:19:00 -
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Additional news on the condition of Former Executive Heth:
It appears that he was injured, but most likely not killed, in the incident at Haatamo, and is likely hiding, with a new face, among supporters in Black Rise. This would seem to very likely place him in the Caldari/Gallente conflict zone. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:36:00 -
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If those Gallante scum lay one hand on him there will be hell to pay. It is our job to string that traitor by his entrails, and if they deny us that satisfaction of bringing Heth to justice then you can be sure we will finish the fight that was started on Caldari Prime.
I can only pray to the Winds that the Legion's peacekeepers will do the honorable thing and turn him over to State authorities.
Naino eidiin hui tirokkunonet.
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Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:44:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:If those Gallante scum lay one hand on him there will be hell to pay.
Respectfully, Fae-haan, it might be that the Gallente would be sensible enough to turn Heth-hnolku over to the State. After all, nothing would please the former executor more than martyrdom at Gallentean hands. If they are clever, they will forego vengeance in order to disarm the former executor's legacy.
Of course, you can't depend on everybody, in any society, to be clever, or even sensible. Um, also, turning him over might lend fire to the belief of some of his supporters in the State that the CEP is under Gallente control. Still ... that seems preferable to a show trial in the Federation that could secure his legacy and annihilate any chance of peace. |
Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:53:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:If those Gallante scum lay one hand on him there will be hell to pay. Respectfully, Fae-haan, it might be that the Gallente would be sensible enough to turn Heth-hnolku over to the State. After all, nothing would please the former executor more than martyrdom at Gallentean hands. If they are clever, they will forego vengeance in order to disarm the former executor's legacy. Of course, you can't depend on everybody, in any society, to be clever, or even sensible. Um, also, turning him over might lend fire to the belief of some of his supporters in the State that the CEP is under Gallente control. Still ... that seems preferable to a show trial in the Federation that could secure his legacy and annihilate any chance of peace.
It would be a positive move on their part to do so. Since they have more positive relations with the Caldari Liberalist Blocs after the Caldari Prime incident I see no reason for them not to allow justice done at the hands of his own people.
Though in some sense I would not object to seeing justice done unto Heth by the Gallenteans..... such would be almost fitting. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:08:00 -
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While he may have done wrong, why seem to be forgetting what he did right.
Through his leadership, we reclaimed the home world, just as through his leadership, we lost it. |
Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:10:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Galm Fae wrote:If those Gallante scum lay one hand on him there will be hell to pay. Respectfully, Fae-haan, it might be that the Gallente would be sensible enough to turn Heth-hnolku over to the State. After all, nothing would please the former executor more than martyrdom at Gallentean hands. If they are clever, they will forego vengeance in order to disarm the former executor's legacy. Of course, you can't depend on everybody, in any society, to be clever, or even sensible. Um, also, turning him over might lend fire to the belief of some of his supporters in the State that the CEP is under Gallente control. Still ... that seems preferable to a show trial in the Federation that could secure his legacy and annihilate any chance of peace.
My exact reasoning as to why we must secure him ourselves, Gallente space or no. Heth is our man, and I will not allow the Gallente even the possibility of starting a war by executing Heth. That in mind, I am not so blind though that I can not see that war is already on the horizon. We owe the spirits that much for what we allowed to happen to our proud homeworld. No, what I will not allow is for this war to be spawned off the martyrdom of a tyrant who will be remembered as a hero.
If Heth dies at the hands of the Gallente, that would be seen as an act of war. Swarms of men and women will rally under the rage against their intervention, all under the memory of that animal. A new generation of Dragonaurs will rise, all for a universe free of the Federation, or any other power that threatens Caldari supremacy. This can not happen.
No, if there is to be a war, then allow it to be on our terms. I will not allow the Gallente to execute the man so he may be buried in a golden crypt. If they are smart, they will locate him and pass him over to us. If not we will take him by force, and we shall hang his body from the wreckage of the Leviathan were so many Caldari died at the hands of his incompetence. We will enter a war not as a scattered people, but as a State determined to finally end to a universe that allows such madmen to spawn. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:22:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I will not allow the Gallente to execute the man so he may be buried in a golden crypt.
That being the case, Fae-haan, it may be wise of the Caldari to make absolutely sure you find him first. If Heth-hnolku falls into Gallente custody, his survival will depend to a large degree on Gallentean forbearance. That, with respect, is not really something the State will be able to change even with an invasion fleet. In fact, with the Federation already sensitized over others' recent attempts to retrieve prisoners by force ...
... well, it's not difficult to imagine a scenario where a State war fleet arrives at the station where Heth is being held, to be greeted with an unofficial message sent from the brig reading something like:
Quote:Sry, weapons malfunction.  Wnt to pick up the bits? Bg mess. Cld use hlp.
Effective hunting is probably a better idea than trying to retrieve a prisoner the average Gallentean would very likely as soon see dead. It's not as though their soldiers don't have reason to hate him, themselves. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.07.17 19:06:00 -
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Further news: Kaalakiota is still trying to recover financially from Heth's time as CEO.
As a side note, with the Executor's disgraced departure, Gallente and Matari outfits are more willing to deal with Kaalakiota, and the news is now calling Heth-hnolku's creative approaches to corporate finance of military and political operations "theft." Kaalakiota itself is still speaking obliquely, calling them "unusual and needless financial drains." |
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