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A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:57:00 -
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Do we know why the Amarr assault suit isn't at all suitable for amour tanking?
I may have missed a memo but I'd have thought of all the races it'd be the Amarr with a fitting like the Gallente assault.
Any explanations appreciated.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:00:00 -
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Ccp is stupid? |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
443
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:04:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Do we know why the Amarr assault suit isn't at all suitable for amour tanking?
I may have missed a memo but I'd have thought of all the races it'd be the Amarr with a fitting like the Gallente assault.
Any explanations appreciated.
I have Amarr Assault Level V, Armor Plates Level V, and Armor Repair Level V.
The Amarr Assault Suit has equal shields and armor ratings of 180/180 (without shield and armor SP invested). Yes, I know the Amarr are supposed to be armor tankers, but the suit is great for a hybrid tank with extenders in the highs and plates or reppers or both in the lows.
That 180 base armor I believe is the highest of the assault suit variants, so you already have a nice buffer of armor on top of an equal amount (180hp) of shield.
Once you get your shield and armor skills up, the Amarr Assault Suit really begins to shine and can get high EHP values. Also remember the Amarr Assault Suit has more stamina and regens it quicker than the other racial variants (it taps into the neurological system yadda yadda yadda - read the description). |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
712
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:07:00 -
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in dust.. it looks like amarr were designed to be hybrid tanks (half shields half armor).
full on armor tanking belongs to gallente looks like. |
Callidus Vanus
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
97
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:07:00 -
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CCP forgot that it is the Minmatar that are hybrid tankers. |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:10:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:
The Amarr Assault Suit has equal shields and armor ratings of 180/180 (without shield and armor SP invested). Yes, I know the Amarr are supposed to be armor tankers, but the suit is great for a hybrid tank with extenders in the highs and plates or reppers or both in the lows.
That 180 base armor I believe is the highest of the assault suit variants, so you already have a nice buffer of armor on top of an equal amount (180hp) of shield.
Once you get your shield and armor skills up, the Amarr Assault Suit really begins to shine and can get high EHP values. Also remember the Amarr Assault Suit has more stamina and regens it quicker than the other racial variants (it taps into the neurological system yadda yadda yadda - read the description).
I saw the potential for this, I guess what put me off it was the need to have a minimum of advanced level dropsuit skills before it's viable.
Out of interest, if you're successfully dual tanking one of these suits do you not have fitting issues with CPU/PG?
It's always been the fatal flaw of dual tanking in EVE, I just want to see if CCP eased off it a bit.
Cheers! |
dday3six
Intrepidus XI
51
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:14:00 -
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Amarr Assault is set up to a dual tank with it's current specs. As much as I'd like for it to have a 4th low slot to better support Armor. The cost would likely be less high slots. Since Shields > Armor at the moment, I prefer at least having the option to run 3 Shield Extenters.
Arguably the set up for dropsuits is flawed in general. IMO it would greatly benefit from a rework adding "mid slot" fittings. Some modules would be strictly mid slot and some dropsuits would be allowed to fit high and/or low slot modules into those mids based on their race. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
299
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:18:00 -
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dust high slots = eve mid slots |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
493
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:19:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Do we know why the Amarr assault suit isn't at all suitable for amour tanking?
I may have missed a memo but I'd have thought of all the races it'd be the Amarr with a fitting like the Gallente assault.
Any explanations appreciated.
CCP hates the Gallente, but they hate the Amarr more. |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:23:00 -
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I feel bad for the Gallente. It's actually wrong that their assault bonus is to shields. It really does seem CCP aren't in the mind to amour tank anything... |
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
227
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:25:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
The Amarr Assault Suit has equal shields and armor ratings of 180/180 (without shield and armor SP invested). Yes, I know the Amarr are supposed to be armor tankers, but the suit is great for a hybrid tank with extenders in the highs and plates or reppers or both in the lows.
That 180 base armor I believe is the highest of the assault suit variants, so you already have a nice buffer of armor on top of an equal amount (180hp) of shield.
Once you get your shield and armor skills up, the Amarr Assault Suit really begins to shine and can get high EHP values. Also remember the Amarr Assault Suit has more stamina and regens it quicker than the other racial variants (it taps into the neurological system yadda yadda yadda - read the description).
I saw the potential for this, I guess what put me off it was the need to have a minimum of advanced level dropsuit skills before it's viable. Out of interest, if you're successfully dual tanking one of these suits do you not have fitting issues with CPU/PG? It's always been the fatal flaw of dual tanking in EVE, I just want to see if CCP eased off it a bit. Cheers!
Amarr Proto Assault has more CPU/PG than Amarr Proto Logi |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
493
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:31:00 -
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I guess what they mean by "Fight Your Own War" is fighting with your suit choice. |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
151
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:33:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:dust high slots = eve mid slots
To expand on this a bit:
Dust Weapon slots + Dust Equipment slots = EVE High Slots
Dust Low slots = EVE Low Slots |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
24
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:58:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:I feel bad for the Gallente. It's actually wrong that their assault bonus is to shields. It really does seem CCP aren't in the mind to amour tank anything...
If I could dislike this, I would.
Just because Gallente 'are' armor tankers, doesn't mean having a shield recharge speed bonus is a bad thing.
Remember that unlike EvE armor tankers don't have a hull to fall back on if their tank breaks, in Dust, they die. |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:20:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:A B Ablabab wrote:I feel bad for the Gallente. It's actually wrong that their assault bonus is to shields. It really does seem CCP aren't in the mind to amour tank anything... If I could dislike this, I would. Just because Gallente 'are' armor tankers, doesn't mean having a shield recharge speed bonus is a bad thing. Remember that unlike EvE armor tankers don't have a hull to fall back on if their tank breaks, in Dust, they die.
You're saying you'd prefer a bonus to an undeveloped shield with a long depleted recharge time than to the main tank you're fitting for? It sounds exactly like the dual tanking the amarr has, and just crazy on an suit set up for armour.
I see your point, but it's not a dual tanking suit. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
445
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:22:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
The Amarr Assault Suit has equal shields and armor ratings of 180/180 (without shield and armor SP invested). Yes, I know the Amarr are supposed to be armor tankers, but the suit is great for a hybrid tank with extenders in the highs and plates or reppers or both in the lows.
That 180 base armor I believe is the highest of the assault suit variants, so you already have a nice buffer of armor on top of an equal amount (180hp) of shield.
Once you get your shield and armor skills up, the Amarr Assault Suit really begins to shine and can get high EHP values. Also remember the Amarr Assault Suit has more stamina and regens it quicker than the other racial variants (it taps into the neurological system yadda yadda yadda - read the description).
I saw the potential for this, I guess what put me off it was the need to have a minimum of advanced level dropsuit skills before it's viable. Out of interest, if you're successfully dual tanking one of these suits do you not have fitting issues with CPU/PG? It's always been the fatal flaw of dual tanking in EVE, I just want to see if CCP eased off it a bit. Cheers!
Nope. Everything is peachy keen with my CPU/PG - I have my core skills up as well. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
746
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:30:00 -
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Because CCP loves shields and don't give a **** about anything armour related. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:45:00 -
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Because the laser and scrambler rifles, which overheats a lot (if you're stupid like me), eats your shields like butter. So I stack extenders and regulators. Regulators will help those shield get back up in no time.
-XOXO |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
446
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Posted - 2013.07.09 17:15:00 -
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The only thing that bothers me is that the Advanced suit does not have a third low and the Gallente does.
That third low makes a world of difference. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
85
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Posted - 2013.07.09 17:18:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
The Amarr Assault Suit has equal shields and armor ratings of 180/180 (without shield and armor SP invested). Yes, I know the Amarr are supposed to be armor tankers, but the suit is great for a hybrid tank with extenders in the highs and plates or reppers or both in the lows.
That 180 base armor I believe is the highest of the assault suit variants, so you already have a nice buffer of armor on top of an equal amount (180hp) of shield.
Once you get your shield and armor skills up, the Amarr Assault Suit really begins to shine and can get high EHP values. Also remember the Amarr Assault Suit has more stamina and regens it quicker than the other racial variants (it taps into the neurological system yadda yadda yadda - read the description).
I saw the potential for this, I guess what put me off it was the need to have a minimum of advanced level dropsuit skills before it's viable. Out of interest, if you're successfully dual tanking one of these suits do you not have fitting issues with CPU/PG? It's always been the fatal flaw of dual tanking in EVE, I just want to see if CCP eased off it a bit. Cheers!
the only problem i have with it is the advance only as two low and two high slots so no armor reps on me |
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