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Vrain Matari ZionTCD 600	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:08:00 - [31] - Quote OP's observation is true, but it all comes down to peeps expectations and prioroties. Getting stomped is hard on the ego, and can be frustrating. And expensive - you're not going to take out a Saga in a noob fit, especially with 6-merc killer squads running around looking for prey lol I never quit, and by the end of a good(i.e. brutal) fight there's often this experience of looking at the respawn screen only to realize that, between the AFKers and the cowed mercs, there's only 5 or 6 of you fighting the other side. I see it as good training, but it is hard on peeps who keep an eye on their wallet and their KDR. You can't really blame them since corps recruit based on KDR.
Muud Kipz Elevated Technologies 1	Posted - 2013.07.09 14:34:00 - [32] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: well if it makes you happy i militia forge gunned a proto suit guy before suffice to say he wasnt too pleased since now his perfect killing spree has ended due to that one death i gave him hehe This is what keeps me going. Forges are pretty easy to hit with, even using a DS3, provided you've got proper corner play and pre-aim, and no amount of complex shield extenders will save them. The new strafe speed really helps with this.
Scheneighnay McBob Blueberry Gunners 2072	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:20:00 - [33] - Quote Murder taxis are so much more effective than redline snipers.
Your Absolut End Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 106	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:35:00 - [34] - Quote I think we really need to get rid of thr KDR. People give up on pub matchesm because they don't want to ruin their KDR's thats all, IMO. I don't even know why a team based game like dust needs such a ego BS.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 547	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:51:00 - [35] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: I think we really need to get rid of thr KDR. People give up on pub matchesm because they don't want to ruin their KDR's thats all, IMO. I don't even know why a team based game like dust needs such a ego BS. You know, I agree with you 100%. It'll never happen though, the FPS monkeys want this to be nothing more than JALS. The monkeys who play lobby shooters want to know their KDR and they will scream bloody murder if CCP tries to take it away.
dday3six Intrepidus XI 53	Posted - 2013.07.09 16:45:00 - [36] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: I think we really need to get rid of thr KDR. People give up on pub matchesm because they don't want to ruin their KDR's thats all, IMO. I don't even know why a team based game like dust needs such a ego BS. You know, I agree with you 100%. It'll never happen though, the FPS monkeys want this to be nothing more than JALS. The monkeys who play lobby shooters want to know their KDR and they will scream bloody murder if CCP tries to take it away. Cause clearly Dust is at current so much more then a Lobby Shooter...Oh, wait...
Odiain Suliis The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 163	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:10:00 - [37] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: Losing all the time is not fun. People play games to have fun. Do the math. Emm... I beg to differ. "Loosing is FUN" -DF Wiki
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 550	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:23:00 - [38] - Quote dday3six wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: I think we really need to get rid of thr KDR. People give up on pub matchesm because they don't want to ruin their KDR's thats all, IMO. I don't even know why a team based game like dust needs such a ego BS. You know, I agree with you 100%. It'll never happen though, the FPS monkeys want this to be nothing more than JALS. The monkeys who play lobby shooters want to know their KDR and they will scream bloody murder if CCP tries to take it away. Cause clearly Dust is at current so much more then a Lobby Shooter...Oh, wait... No, you're right on that (aside from the spelling error, sorry, had to). However, if all CCP hears from are the lobby shooter monkeys, then who will be pushing them for more open world, free roam PvP, PvE and PvEvP? The market is already saturated with lobby shooters, give us the same idea as Eve only with boots and guns rather than spaceships. Am I saying give us an open world, free roam environment with broken FPS mechanics? No, I want solid mechanics and a solid foundation for the only way emergent gameplay can truly honestly develop without being a nearly entirely out-of-game popularity contest. Give us maps we can claim and develop and mold into our own design. Give us long stretches of road where we can be bandits and highwaymen if we choose. Give us our own land that we need to inhabit and use if we want to profit from and defend. Lobby shooters are overdone, give us something more.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 88	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:00:00 - [39] - Quote I think it is time to chance the name of this topic to a more discussion and suggestion way. :) it have potential, believe me.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 521	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:14:00 - [40] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: I actually agree with the OP, it takes all of 3 seconds to realize you're getting stomped and switch to your basic/militia fit that's still 75% effective as your 30k fit. And once you switch, you can go nuts, play ridiculous, get at least one proto kill or whatever. Why? because losing is fun, to hell with KDR. switching to militia gear is the reason alot of people get pubstomped. half of the battles are lost in the warbarge.

pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 420	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:18:00 - [41] - Quote If everyone ran adv and above gear then payouts would be much larger ar the end of a match . But I do think CCP needs to sort the balancing issue . I mean when you get 4 mercs in a pub skirmish try to killy gunlogi with malitia starterfits (not even the anti armour ones lol) you know match making is a bit broke.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 553	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:22:00 - [42] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: I actually agree with the OP, it takes all of 3 seconds to realize you're getting stomped and switch to your basic/militia fit that's still 75% effective as your 30k fit. And once you switch, you can go nuts, play ridiculous, get at least one proto kill or whatever. Why? because losing is fun, to hell with KDR. switching to militia gear is the reason alot of people get pubstomped. half of the battles are lost in the warbarge. I call bullshit on that. Battles aren't hopeless until you find yourself pinned in 1 letter being farmed by the reddot team that could obviously hack the objective and choose not to.
Ba'amon Zombie Financial Group LLC 0	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:30:00 - [43] - Quote I'd like to say that I agree somewhat with the OP. I've been playing since the open beta, but have only accumulated a little over 6 million SP because I don't spend much time playing. (That and my aim pretty much sucks.) Every time I've been in a stomp battle (which seems to me to be more prevalent lately) I've felt like I'm one of only a couple dudes actually "trying". The good thing for me has been that, in those instances, I'll appear in the top 3 on the killboard easily. That being said, I've started to grow a little tired of the Zangief Stompfest and have lately taken to just making loops around the battlefield in my butter LAV when I'm getting my butt handed to me. I have to admit, driving LAV's are fun and now I'm a little addicted to it. I went for a ride with a professional murder taxi driver the other night and I was amazed at how proficient this guy was at driving. It was insane! I don't know if it does anything, but I have mine fitted with a scanner in the hopes it will paint targets for my team. (The ones actually shooting at people that is.) TL;DR So yeah. In short I kind of feel that a little better match making would make this game just a little more fun for me at this point. Or consistently fun I should say. And I'd like to say to "Your Absolute End": Sorry for stealing your kill the other night if you even remember. It was an accident and I hope that me standing still while you emptied your SMG clip into my face conveyed my regret.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5844	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:53:00 - [44] - Quote Used a plasma cannon to instagib an officer weapon weilding soldier the other day, instantly gibbed and his logis couldn't revive him.

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 495	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:56:00 - [45] - Quote Locked as duplicated. You can follow this thread if you click in here

pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 58	Posted - 2013.07.09 19:11:00 - [46] - Quote Squadding with new players, i hear a lot of warbarge chatter about breaking out lawnchairs in the mcc or only running cheap gear as they go through the monotony that is a pubstomping. They dont care about costing vets money and winning is deemed unachievable, so I can see the OPs pov. Being too green for gun game, too new for advanced gear, and too inexperienced to have seen effective grand strategy they should concede defeat...but most dont. Most keep trying to succeed but dont know how. I love squadding with positive new players bc they flood the links i drop and the objectives i cap. I dont mind going negative when we still have boots on the ground pushing those objectives. Its the matches where my spawn screen shows only two people on the field that get me wondering why i bother...and it's happening more often. Give these vets something better to do or base your growth model on converting dwarf fortress players...DF 514 ftw, CCP.


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