DUST Search - Toast to the Dead

Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:

Rogatien Merc wrote:

Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:

Rogatien Merc wrote:

I can't really speak to much on the inter-alliance politics of district trading vs. successful prosecution of the CRONOS war vs. ringer requirements vs. overextension. But at the risk of future opportunities, from my perspective internal to IO, I'll also say I'm disappointed in the EoN. leadership. With respect, because he has built an incredible alliance, Mavado is at this point an absentee alliance leader who has publicly stated this game is dead in October. He hasn't communicated anything to the alliance as a whole in months - the maps change, wars start and end, new corps join and no one really knows about it until we see them in Alliance chat and wonder who the heck they are. It's fixable, but worth noting. I'll concede that some of this failure likely falls on the heads of IO leaders who should have filled that gap, including Deadeyes. Perhaps it is because I was in IO and everyone else was getting the memos but we weren't because of leadership relations with Nik. But it is what it is.

Im sorry but don't put this on EoN Leadership, like Lance mentioned nikia completely disregarded any and all advice given to him and did his own thing. I'll personally never forgot in the first week of PC when and i quote he said "I don't care what you think" to multiple leaders of other corps. Mavado is not an absente leader he's on every day despite his criticism of the game(like 70% of the playerbase lol).

Nikia is a good leader but he is not a CEO.

Agreed on Nikia's faults.

"This" being the ultimate decision to burn IO to the ground is on Deadeyes. The bitterness and failed alliance relations are on Nik. EoN. leadership did what they had to do, but it could have been handled differently. Will 'Gravity Prone' get those districts now that they're out of Nikia's grasp? Doubtful because they've already been handed off to a myriad of other corps. Just sayin. No hard feelings, just laying out what I'm seeing. People outside the corp are cheering for Deadeyes, so thought I'd share my perspective.

You see Mav every day because he is your corp CEO. I just want a weekly bulletin or something. Macro-level alliance-wide comms have just sucked. That's really beside the point honestly. Probably shouldn't have brought it up as it's a bit off topic. /shrug

I understand what your saying about the last part, i guess i do have it easier cause he's my CEO but anytime something 'major' happens within the alliance its put out on the leadership channels,skype channels etc honestly at that point it is on your leaders/CEO to spread the word within their corp. Also when meetings happen leaders are given news and such, but how are you to get the news when nikia decides he doesn't want to attend the meetings like has happened?


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Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 378	Posted - 2013.07.10 16:35:00 - [1] - Quote Heavy Breaks wrote: Did you send a corp mail out? I sent corp mail and re-directed all of the applications to their new pub channel.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 379	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:19:00 - [2] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I'm honestly not sure whether Deadeyes was right or not. Nikia's failure to lead and put together the 40+ fights he apparently lost to SI over the last week in mostly no shows or poorly equipped teams seemed to indicate Nikia was failing to grasp the responsibility he obtained when he won all those districts. The thing with Nikia seemingly going 2 faced about giving us the districts which he said he would to TP's was not deadeyes fault. Nikia should have not gone back and changed his mind about them giving it to us, and personally I know cubs wanted them to hurry the **** up and deadeyes obliged. Personally I got 25 mill for all the fights I helped with. I'm grateful. I rang like 70+ fights for IO and I wasn't expecting anything, so I appreciate that. I know Nikia was a very imperfect leader (the fact that Komplex and Bigboi has joined back up with their friends who made Gravity Prone is proof of that) and that he talked a lot of smack and kinda played into sha's hands a bit in the meta when attacked GAC's fight club district and wouldn't see the light of day, but honestly, Nikia's not a bad guy, just perhaps better suited to not having all that power. With respect to all parties involved... I've publicly and privately facepalmed at what Nik has done in the past and told him to get off the forums and leave politics to others. He worked hard to build the corp, but sucked at the meta. His removal as part of EoN. likely was inevitable, and understandable; the execution of this left something to be desired. I stayed with IO when others left over the past couple months because as a corp and an alliance, we built something we were proud of and at the end of the day, I enjoyed the amount of PC we were doing and being with all of the people I played with on a daily basis. That was all torn down. I was disappointed with Deadeyes' decision. He made it unilaterally without even touching base with those he should have been able to trust within the corp (call me butthurt /shrug) who might have had an opinion. Those on the forums and those in EoN. that see the positives of Nik's removal notwithstanding, Deadeyes' rage decision was ironically Nikia-esque and this was a betrayal of the corporation and what many of us worked for. Yes he shelled out ISK, but the ISK available didn't even put some donors in the black, payouts to alliance ringers indicate his primary loyalties (which is fine, I love you guys too), and at the end of the day it wasn't all about the ISK. I can't really speak to much on the inter-alliance politics of district trading vs. successful prosecution of the CRONOS war vs. ringer requirements vs. overextension. But at the risk of future opportunities, from my perspective internal to IO, I'll also say I'm disappointed in the EoN. leadership. With respect, because he has built an incredible alliance, Mavado is at this point an absentee alliance leader who has publicly stated this game is dead in October. He hasn't communicated anything to the alliance as a whole in months - the maps change, wars start and end, new corps join and no one really knows about it until we see them in Alliance chat and wonder who the heck they are. It's fixable, but worth noting. I'll concede that some of this failure likely falls on the heads of IO leaders who should have filled that gap, including Deadeyes. Perhaps it is because I was in IO and everyone else was getting the memos but we weren't because of leadership relations with Nik. But it is what it is. Yes IO had a bad week against SI and were at a low point, but I feel like support was hesitant - with a few notable exceptions - I guess due to being sick of Nikia and burnout over IO needs. There was no effort made by other corporations to conduct a counterattack on CRONOS, which is above my paygrade but would have gotten us through all of this. The Almur districts were rather unimportant strategically and IO would have survived losing even 10 districts. Instead, it was easier for EoN. to let us fall and execute a bloodless coup. Yes it was IO's responsibility to defend those districts, but the sudden resurgence in support when the districts needed to be defended in order to be transferred indicates the support to conduct those fights was there, just not willing. I can respect this and even appreciate the rally yesterday, but let's be honest about it. IO's districts were parted out by the alliance for alliance gain. No desire to be drama llama here, and I <3 my EoN. bros, but while the move on Deadeye's part was generally beneficial for the EoN. alliance as a whole, many within IO feel justifiably and completely betrayed. Peanut gallery: the floor is yours. In the end 'tis only a game
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 380	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:35:00 - [3] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: I can't really speak to much on the inter-alliance politics of district trading vs. successful prosecution of the CRONOS war vs. ringer requirements vs. overextension. But at the risk of future opportunities, from my perspective internal to IO, I'll also say I'm disappointed in the EoN. leadership. With respect, because he has built an incredible alliance, Mavado is at this point an absentee alliance leader who has publicly stated this game is dead in October. He hasn't communicated anything to the alliance as a whole in months - the maps change, wars start and end, new corps join and no one really knows about it until we see them in Alliance chat and wonder who the heck they are. It's fixable, but worth noting. I'll concede that some of this failure likely falls on the heads of IO leaders who should have filled that gap, including Deadeyes. Perhaps it is because I was in IO and everyone else was getting the memos but we weren't because of leadership relations with Nik. But it is what it is. Im sorry but don't put this on EoN Leadership, like Lance mentioned nikia completely disregarded any and all advice given to him and did his own thing. I'll personally never forgot in the first week of PC when and i quote he said "I don't care what you think" to multiple leaders of other corps. Mavado is not an absente leader he's on every day despite his criticism of the game(like 70% of the playerbase lol). Nikia is a good leader but he is not a CEO. Agreed on Nikia's faults. "This" being the ultimate decision to burn IO to the ground is on Deadeyes. The bitterness and failed alliance relations are on Nik. EoN. leadership did what they had to do, but it could have been handled differently. Will 'Gravity Prone' get those districts now that they're out of Nikia's grasp? Doubtful because they've already been handed off to a myriad of other corps. Just sayin. No hard feelings, just laying out what I'm seeing. People outside the corp are cheering for Deadeyes, so thought I'd share my perspective. You see Mav every day because he is your corp CEO. I just want a weekly bulletin or something. Macro-level alliance-wide comms have just sucked. That's really beside the point honestly. Probably shouldn't have brought it up as it's a bit off topic. /shrug
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 380	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:48:00 - [4] - Quote Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: I can't really speak to much on the inter-alliance politics of district trading vs. successful prosecution of the CRONOS war vs. ringer requirements vs. overextension. But at the risk of future opportunities, from my perspective internal to IO, I'll also say I'm disappointed in the EoN. leadership. With respect, because he has built an incredible alliance, Mavado is at this point an absentee alliance leader who has publicly stated this game is dead in October. He hasn't communicated anything to the alliance as a whole in months - the maps change, wars start and end, new corps join and no one really knows about it until we see them in Alliance chat and wonder who the heck they are. It's fixable, but worth noting. I'll concede that some of this failure likely falls on the heads of IO leaders who should have filled that gap, including Deadeyes. Perhaps it is because I was in IO and everyone else was getting the memos but we weren't because of leadership relations with Nik. But it is what it is. Im sorry but don't put this on EoN Leadership, like Lance mentioned nikia completely disregarded any and all advice given to him and did his own thing. I'll personally never forgot in the first week of PC when and i quote he said "I don't care what you think" to multiple leaders of other corps. Mavado is not an absente leader he's on every day despite his criticism of the game(like 70% of the playerbase lol). Nikia is a good leader but he is not a CEO. Agreed on Nikia's faults. "This" being the ultimate decision to burn IO to the ground is on Deadeyes. The bitterness and failed alliance relations are on Nik. EoN. leadership did what they had to do, but it could have been handled differently. Will 'Gravity Prone' get those districts now that they're out of Nikia's grasp? Doubtful because they've already been handed off to a myriad of other corps. Just sayin. No hard feelings, just laying out what I'm seeing. People outside the corp are cheering for Deadeyes, so thought I'd share my perspective. You see Mav every day because he is your corp CEO. I just want a weekly bulletin or something. Macro-level alliance-wide comms have just sucked. That's really beside the point honestly. Probably shouldn't have brought it up as it's a bit off topic. /shrug I understand what your saying about the last part, i guess i do have it easier cause he's my CEO but anytime something 'major' happens within the alliance its put out on the leadership channels,skype channels etc honestly at that point it is on your leaders/CEO to spread the word within their corp. Also when meetings happen leaders are given news and such, but how are you to get the news when nikia decides he doesn't want to attend the meetings like has happened? Agreed, and I made note of that in my OP. I'd note that Deadeyes was part of that as well, but that would just be spiteful Like I said dude, not trying to pick a fight with EoN., but the whole "what Deadeyes did was for the sake of his corp and for the best" etc. etc., is decidedly one-sided. It was all kind of like coming up behind a guy on the street and taking a chainsaw to his leg because he has a nasty infection instead of finding a hospital and using an anesthetic.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 380	Posted - 2013.07.10 20:59:00 - [5] - Quote Zhar Ptitsaa wrote: ] Rogatien Merc wrote: I just want a weekly bulletin or something. What would you honestly expect in this bulletin? The problem is there isn't enough **** going on in dust to make updates about, the EoN forums are updated when news does come out and mails are sent regularly. What would you have wanted to see? Mails are NOT sent out regularly to the alliance. Corp leader responsibilities have already been discussed, and I concede that point; forums are rarely used by the majority of any playerbase. **** weekly bulletins, how about just "RND and Intrepidus Have Joined The Alliance, Welcome!!!" Mav's a big boy and we've all fought in matches together. Hopefully ya'll know by now I'm not just trolling to troll. I respect his abilities, just listing a gripe and already said it was beside the point. It doesn't need the wrath of SyN response Ya'll must have sent this thread out in a corp mail huh? It wasn't to the alliance though [EDIT: Thanks for the response Mavado.]
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 381	Posted - 2013.07.10 22:35:00 - [6] - Quote u deserve more likes Tank. here, take 2
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens 383	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:47:00 - [7] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Baracka Flocka Flame wrote: Funny how out of the very few people defending nikia, its Sha and Dark Cloud ... lol never give up on that forum warrior meta act eh... Pretty much this. Any way to spin the story. Last night sha's talking about how it doesn't matter he hates nikia for talking about how nikia said he was going to kick sha out of pc and skull something him but now it's all a facade about how Eon. is still the bad guys. Sorry we broke you're spirits. If ya want please feel free to use all the donut money you made to attack us. :P Yup. Pretty much this. If dark's being sincere in respect, then o7. But third party commentary always comes with an agenda. I said my piece which I'm sure pissed some off (nerf forums), but EoN. is the best and most solid alliance out there. Even the current IO situation was handled in a way that leaves the alliance stronger and probably resulted in minimal ultimate losses as most of us choose to stay with the alliance.