You are right, the splash is way too close to the base, I think 40% fair though, in my own opinion though. Mind if I ask where you got that info about CCP and hit detection?

As I'm sure many of you have noticed that quite a few people aren't too happy with the Flaylock, but I don't think there are really sure as to why. Here is what we know, the Flaylock is a burst damage weapon with AoE abilities, low clip size, reasonable reload speed, low spare ammo, bullet travel time and bullet falloff, now on paper that sounds like a pretty well balanced weapon.

As I'm sure many of you have noticed that quite a few people aren't too happy with the Flaylock, but I don't think there are really sure as to why. Here is what we know, the Flaylock is a burst damage weapon with AoE abilities, low clip size, reasonable reload speed, low spare ammo, bullet travel time and bullet falloff, now on paper that sounds like a pretty well balanced weapon.

But if you look pass the gun and look at the finer details of the game we can see the real balance issue, the skill tree. The slandered FL has a base damage of 218 and a splash of 195, with a radius of 1m and a reload of 2.5, now it's proto version has Dam of 239.8 and a splash of 214.5, a radius of 2m with the same reload speed as before, in my opinion, this is one of the only proto guns that is actually worth paying for. So, now that's out of the way, the problem comes from the skill that affects the FL's damage, FL proficiency.
Now their is our culprit, at level 5 it gives the FL a 15% buff to damage, which looks like 250.7 base and 224.25 splash for the slandered, while the proto looks like 275.7 and a splash of 246.6, now if we add two Complex mods and the 20% bonus from armor damage, and well it just becomes a nightmare. But the worst part of all this is, that the FL doesn't have any real drawbacks for using it, only inconveniences, I'm not sure how, but I do know FL needs weakness other than range, which is the common problem for most weapons, putting the FL "ahead of the game".

So, lets brainstorm on ideas on how to balance the FL, maybe it needs a CPU/PG requirement, maybe it needs a slower rate of fire, or maybe it needs more bullet travel time, let's figure something out?

Says who? If you're willing to deal with the trade offs, why shouldn't you be allowed to only spec into sidearms? You get lesser range, smaller clip size, smaller total ammo, bullet travel time, arcs, etc...every sidearm has disadvantages.

In EVE nothing's stopping me from fitting cruise sized guns on my BS if I want to, it adds flexibility and variety to the game. In fact, one of my favorite setup is a BS with cruiser blasters (dual repper/injector domi of doom). There too I accept certain disadvantages in return for doing that.

Actually R'adeh, its direct damage or spalsh damage, not both. That's twice you've been wrong...

Maybe its you who should check your info

Std flux grenade, there's my argument.

With 2 complex damage mods??

He is right, you only get one or the other, not both.

You are aware that a FL can shoot all three shots before you even know where there coming from, right?
It's not that hard, which is the main problem with the FL, they don't magically kill things with one shot, if you shoot any advance suit(other than a Light Suit) with a FL, they will not go down in one shot, the FL can shoot three shots that can do over 200 damage, that's what kills people, this is with out damage mods or skills being applied.

I agree with you, we shouldn't nerf weapons just because we don't like them/latest trend, as you said, all weapons in the game have some sort of balancing point that limits it to considerable degree, but the only one that doesn't is the FL.

But it has! Clip size, range, arc, bullet travel time...those are all downsides.

Also, ppl mostly seem to have an issue with the core flaylock only...which is because it's a PROTO gun, it's supposed to slaughter non-proto gear. It doesn't do that to proto suits that are properly fit.

Whatever... 3 shots with prof 3 and 2 complex sidearm mods is still 600-700 damage. A cal logi can barely withstand that, until they swap guns or toss a fused locus nade.

Not even shield tankers can do anything against a skilled player using 1-2 FPs.

If you can't kill anyone in less than 2s at 20m with a core flaylock its because you lack skill.

A player would be a glass cannon if he were running a light suit, but but the people using proto FLs aren't , these cannons are made of sterner stuff.

Funny to see the whiny EoN guys still coming up with asinine ideas like "just remove the weapon".