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Hammer00630
The Gathering Storm
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:23:00 -
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Is it me or are the flintlocks over powered i was in a game when i got pinned down at a drop uplink and just got blown to crap about 3 times just could not get out seems more powerful than a tank or is it me ?
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
693
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:24:00 -
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Don't worry, your post is one in thousands about the godlock. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
70
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:26:00 -
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LOL |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:31:00 -
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When did the Pirate guns get release?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
2007
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:33:00 -
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The key is to kill them during the extremely long reload. Hopefully they'll drop their gunpowder or something. |
dazlb72
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
23
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:36:00 -
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Hammer00630 wrote:Is it me or are the flintlocks over powered i was in a game when i got pinned down at a drop uplink and just got blown to crap about 3 times just could not get out seems more powerful than a tank or is it me ?
should be a weapon you have to reload after every shot
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Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
405
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:36:00 -
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I DEMAND FLINT LOCK PISTOLS AND MUSKETS! |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:38:00 -
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Sold my soul to the core scrublock yesterday, blew 3 people up in 3 shots, complete joke to use. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
465
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:55:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Sold my soul to the core scrublock yesterday, blew 3 people up in 3 shots, complete joke to use.
So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields?
No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor. |
Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
43
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:58:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:
So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields?
No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor.
I've killed 3 people with 1 flaylock shot before.
I was on the receiving end of the first-spawn glitch in Ambush, ended up in the middle of the redberries in one of the tunnels and just started blowing up the floor. Killed 5 people, 3 of them with 1 shot. |
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WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:03:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Sold my soul to the core scrublock yesterday, blew 3 people up in 3 shots, complete joke to use.
Does that mean you'll stop using it now? No... It doesn't. Cause the flaylocks is the perfect counterpart to the assault rifle, and well, every other light weapon. Also it's the only viable option other than the smg.
For the record SMGs are the god weapon as its users spray and pray. With the flay lock there is no need to pray. Point n pull, is all you need. No prayer necessary.
Instead I recommend that you try Flux and Flay. It makes bugs dead.:) |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:09:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote:
So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields?
No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor.
I've killed 3 people with 1 flaylock shot before. I was on the receiving end of the first-spawn glitch in Ambush, ended up in the middle of the redberries in one of the tunnels and just started blowing up the floor. Killed 5 people, 3 of them with 1 shot.
I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor)
It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum.
Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields.
I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:11:00 -
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Three guys stood close together, 1 was a heavy |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
26
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:13:00 -
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The fact you actually think I'd lie merely reflects on yourself, stop protecting your crutch, im going to start using 2 if it's not balanced soon :-) it's my alt rendonasix that has them :-) |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:15:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Three guys stood close together, 1 was a heavy
No shields then? |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:19:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:The fact you actually think I'd lie merely reflects on yourself, stop protecting your crutch, im going to start using 2 if it's not balanced soon :-) it's my alt rendonasix that has them :-)
Not calling you a liar, just trying to get to the bottom of the situation, I could understand the kills, but you gotta make it clear what happened.
Merely stating you killed 3 guys in 3 shots isn't enough info to base a judgement of the weapon.
What type of suits? Were their shields up?
I know for a fact I cannot take a fully shielded and armored heavy down with three shots with a core with ops and prof to 5 with all three shots being direct hits, so when I hear someone took three peeps down in three shots, you can understand why i'd be skeptical, right? |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
27
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:23:00 -
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3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-) |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:24:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-)
Ok, I'm calling you a liar now, there is no way you killed 3 people with 3 shots if they had full health, absolutely no way. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
191
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:26:00 -
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Well, since I'm in a scout suit 90% of the time, it's just one of the many weapons that seem OP to me.
I have to say though, that I'd prefer the scrambler to the flaylock. It's got serious bite, no doubt.... but the kills are not as 'satisfying'.
I think the flaylock is pretty close to being balanced... maybe take it from 3 shots to 2, and scale back the splash damage a bit.... |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
27
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:27:00 -
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And if you cant take down a heavy in 3 shots your either missing or lagging, you can chuck math in but you know as well as I do it pans out different in the actual game, an example is the ar, 34 ish dps? really because dropping heavies takes about 3 seconds with an ar so the dps doesn't mean much, I use the assault scrambler rifle so I cant remember the duvolle 'dps' |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:29:00 -
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Call me a liar all you want, im not and it's pretty funny you disagree yet have prof in fp, your just trying to protect it and it's very obvious :-) |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:34:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:And if you cant take down a heavy in 3 shots your either missing or lagging, you can chuck math in but you know as well as I do it pans out different in the actual game, an example is the ar, 34 ish dps? really because dropping heavies takes about 3 seconds with an ar so the dps doesn't mean much, I use the assault scrambler rifle so I cant remember the duvolle 'dps'
You can't take a full health heavy down in 3 FP shots, it just won't work, maybe you had a glitch but it just doesn't happen.
I'm fully willing to meet you in game and let you test it out, I'll even let you try and replicate your 3 shot 3 kill scenario, I'm that confident that it won't work... I've been running this as my main weapon on a cal suit since it came out almost 2 months ago, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say its not a powerful and great weapon because it is, but it's not the op noob tube everyone makes it out to be, it's got a huge drawback when it comes to shields, that's why I always lead with a flux. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:37:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Call me a liar all you want, im not and it's pretty funny you disagree yet have prof in fp, your just trying to protect it and it's very obvious :-)
You see, what it looks like to me is someone QQing for a nerf and throwing out wild accusations to make the weapon look op.
It's just hard for me to believe that someone without proficiencies is doing more damage and killing easier than I am. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
29
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:39:00 -
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Call me a liar then get all semi apologetic? I don't really enjoy conversing on any level with people who assume thinG's or even aggressively assume things as fact. Id rather not even acknowledge your existence ever again thank you. |
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
82
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:39:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-) Ok, I'm calling you a liar now, there is no way you killed 3 people with 3 shots if they had full health, absolutely no way. He said they stood together, so all three probably got hit with the splash from all 3 shots. Same with the other dude in the tunnel. He just had one round finish off multiple people at the same time, but it wasn't a OHKO with the finishing shot. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:45:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-) Ok, I'm calling you a liar now, there is no way you killed 3 people with 3 shots if they had full health, absolutely no way. He said they stood together, so all three probably got hit with the splash from all 3 shots. Same with the other dude in the tunnel. He just had one round finish off multiple people at the same time, but it wasn't a OHKO with the finishing shot.
Just try it, I don't care how many people were standing together or how close they were, there is now way you're taking three fully shielded and armored toons down in three shots, it doesn't happen.
I will bring two corp mates with me in a battle and you can try it on me, I will even put 1 mil isk on the table.
I consistently get 15-35 kills with the flux flaylock combo and have never done the type of damage he is claiming.
If they didn't have shields, sure this could happen but due to the percentage nerf to shields that flaylocks get, there is no way. |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire
690
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:00:00 -
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When people are running around in PC matches dual wielding core flaylocks you know something is not right with the weapons balance. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:04:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:When people are running around in PC matches dual wielding core flaylocks you know something is not right with the weapons balance.
Hmm, I've only run into a few flaylocks in PC matches let alone dual flaylocks, I'm always shredded by the glu or duvolle in PC
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
695
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:06:00 -
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They released the Minmatar rifle!?
Awesome. |
Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:16:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote: I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor)
It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum.
Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields.
I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to.
I'm not bragging and I don't want the flaylock to get nerfed, I don't think it's overpowered, I'm just describing my experience. Of the three I killed 2 at least were running scouts but I didn't have time to take stock of all the suits, maybe they were ****-fits or something, who the hell knows. I'm just saying it's possible. |
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Abby Invo
muse.and.fury
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:18:00 -
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Hammer00630 wrote:Is it me or are the flintlocks over powered i was in a game when i got pinned down at a drop uplink and just got blown to crap about 3 times just could not get out seems more powerful than a tank or is it me ?
nerf blackpowder |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:30:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote: I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor)
It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum.
Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields.
I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to.
I'm not bragging and I don't want the flaylock to get nerfed, I don't think it's overpowered, I'm just describing my experience. Of the three I killed 2 at least were running scouts but I didn't have time to take stock of all the suits, maybe they were ****-fits or something, who the hell knows. I'm just saying it's possible.
It's totally possible against the right suits, that's why I was asking.
The heavy and two others with 3 rounds was the one that I can't believe. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:10:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Don't worry, your post is one in thousands about the godlock. Godlock thats a good one! i have been calling it the shitlock for awhile since its such a powerhouse for a sidearm |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:16:00 -
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Flintlocks are clearly overpowered.
You can do serious damage with that ****. Not a big fan of 'em myself, what with the two minute long reload times on the standard flintlock w/out skill points invested. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:22:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The key is to kill them during the extremely long reload. Hopefully they'll drop their gunpowder or something.
The reload time is actually quite fast. Its the same speed as the scrambler pistol, 2.5 seconds. Check the stats for both weapons |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:36:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:And if you cant take down a heavy in 3 shots your either missing or lagging, you can chuck math in but you know as well as I do it pans out different in the actual game, an example is the ar, 34 ish dps? really because dropping heavies takes about 3 seconds with an ar so the dps doesn't mean much, I use the assault scrambler rifle so I cant remember the duvolle 'dps' You can't take a full health heavy down in 3 FP shots, it just won't work, maybe you had a glitch but it just doesn't happen. I'm fully willing to meet you in game and let you test it out, I'll even let you try and replicate your 3 shot 3 kill scenario, I'm that confident that it won't work... I've been running this as my main weapon on a cal suit since it came out almost 2 months ago, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say its not a powerful and great weapon because it is, but it's not the op noob tube everyone makes it out to be, it's got a huge drawback when it comes to shields, that's why I always lead with a flux.
Its a one hit direct kill for anyone less than 270 shield hp for the adv. Flaylock... We tested. You need at least 400hp for the direct hit for armor. The damage is cut in half for blast radius. Reload speed is the same for the scramber pistol (you can check that out on the stats information in game). if you can reload something in less than 3 seconds it consider relatively fast.
If they are going to nerf it, all they need to do is increase either the reload time to 3 or 3.5 seconds or tighten the blast radius. Or they can drop damage level for blast radius to 1/3 |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:44:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Sold my soul to the core scrublock yesterday, blew 3 people up in 3 shots, complete joke to use. So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields? No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor.
Actually its anyone running less than 200 hp for armor or shielding. If you have have a direct hit with it, its a 2180 hp damage to shielding, blast radius cuts it in 1/10 so the damge is 195 hp. so scout guys are dead by blast radius, two shots blast radius for meduim, 2 to 3 shots direct for heavy if they are not using extenders. Reload time is the same for the scramber pistol, 2.5 seconds (check the weapons stats.) |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:03:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:Flintlocks are clearly overpowered.You can do serious damage with that ****. Not a big fan of 'em myself, what with the two minute long reload times on the standard flintlock w/out skill points invested.
Check the stats on the game, 2.5 reload time which is the same for the scrambler pistol |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.07.10 20:07:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote: I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor)
It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum.
Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields.
I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to.
I'm not bragging and I don't want the flaylock to get nerfed, I don't think it's overpowered, I'm just describing my experience. Of the three I killed 2 at least were running scouts but I didn't have time to take stock of all the suits, maybe they were ****-fits or something, who the hell knows. I'm just saying it's possible. It's totally possible against the right suits, that's why I was asking. The heavy and two others with 3 rounds was the one that I can't believe.
YEAH that abit of a story but, i am sure someone didnt check the stats on the game. Standard Flaylock Actually its anyone running less than 200 hp for armor or shielding so basically anyone who isnt wearing a caldari medium or shield extenders. If you have have a direct hit with it, its a 210 hp damage to shielding, blast radius cuts in 1/ 20 so the damage is 195 hp. so scout guys are dead by blast radius, two shots blast radius for medium unless stacked shield extenders, 2 to 3 shots direct for heavy depending if they are using shield externders. Reload time is the same for the scrambler pistol, 2.5 seconds (check the weapons stats.) |
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