DUST Search - over powered Flintlocks

Ploo-Koon wrote:

xLTShinySidesx wrote:

I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor)

It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum.

Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields.

I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to.

I'm not bragging and I don't want the flaylock to get nerfed, I don't think it's overpowered, I'm just describing my experience. Of the three I killed 2 at least were running scouts but I didn't have time to take stock of all the suits, maybe they were ****-fits or something, who the hell knows. I'm just saying it's possible.


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xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 465	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:55:00 - [1] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Sold my soul to the core scrublock yesterday, blew 3 people up in 3 shots, complete joke to use. So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields? No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:09:00 - [2] - Quote Ploo-Koon wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: So then they were either 3 scouts or 3 cats that run shield toons and had no shields? No way you killed 3 people in 3 shots if they had shields and armor. I've killed 3 people with 1 flaylock shot before. I was on the receiving end of the first-spawn glitch in Ambush, ended up in the middle of the redberries in one of the tunnels and just started blowing up the floor. Killed 5 people, 3 of them with 1 shot. I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor) It does **** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum. Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields. I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:15:00 - [3] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Three guys stood close together, 1 was a heavy No shields then?
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:19:00 - [4] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: The fact you actually think I'd lie merely reflects on yourself, stop protecting your crutch, im going to start using 2 if it's not balanced soon :-) it's my alt rendonasix that has them :-) Not calling you a liar, just trying to get to the bottom of the situation, I could understand the kills, but you gotta make it clear what happened. Merely stating you killed 3 guys in 3 shots isn't enough info to base a judgement of the weapon. What type of suits? Were their shields up? I know for a fact I cannot take a fully shielded and armored heavy down with three shots with a core with ops and prof to 5 with all three shots being direct hits, so when I hear someone took three peeps down in three shots, you can understand why i'd be skeptical, right?
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:24:00 - [5] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: 3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-) Ok, I'm calling you a liar now, there is no way you killed 3 people with 3 shots if they had full health, absolutely no way.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:34:00 - [6] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: And if you cant take down a heavy in 3 shots your either missing or lagging, you can chuck math in but you know as well as I do it pans out different in the actual game, an example is the ar, 34 ish dps? really because dropping heavies takes about 3 seconds with an ar so the dps doesn't mean much, I use the assault scrambler rifle so I cant remember the duvolle 'dps' You can't take a full health heavy down in 3 FP shots, it just won't work, maybe you had a glitch but it just doesn't happen. I'm fully willing to meet you in game and let you test it out, I'll even let you try and replicate your 3 shot 3 kill scenario, I'm that confident that it won't work... I've been running this as my main weapon on a cal suit since it came out almost 2 months ago, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say its not a powerful and great weapon because it is, but it's not the op noob tube everyone makes it out to be, it's got a huge drawback when it comes to shields, that's why I always lead with a flux.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:37:00 - [7] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Call me a liar all you want, im not and it's pretty funny you disagree yet have prof in fp, your just trying to protect it and it's very obvious :-) You see, what it looks like to me is someone QQing for a nerf and throwing out wild accusations to make the weapon look op. It's just hard for me to believe that someone without proficiencies is doing more damage and killing easier than I am.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:45:00 - [8] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: 3 guys by objective B on the newer manus peak map stood together, full health and one was a heavy, I shot all 3 shots at them and blew them all up, I love the gun but it's hilarious to use because it takes about 5 mins to get good with :-) Ok, I'm calling you a liar now, there is no way you killed 3 people with 3 shots if they had full health, absolutely no way. He said they stood together, so all three probably got hit with the splash from all 3 shots. Same with the other dude in the tunnel. He just had one round finish off multiple people at the same time, but it wasn't a OHKO with the finishing shot. Just try it, I don't care how many people were standing together or how close they were, there is now way you're taking three fully shielded and armored toons down in three shots, it doesn't happen. I will bring two corp mates with me in a battle and you can try it on me, I will even put 1 mil isk on the table. I consistently get 15-35 kills with the flux flaylock combo and have never done the type of damage he is claiming. If they didn't have shields, sure this could happen but due to the percentage nerf to shields that flaylocks get, there is no way.
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:04:00 - [9] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: When people are running around in PC matches dual wielding core flaylocks you know something is not right with the weapons balance. Hmm, I've only run into a few flaylocks in PC matches let alone dual flaylocks, I'm always shredded by the glu or duvolle in PC
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 467	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:30:00 - [10] - Quote Ploo-Koon wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: I find this highly unbelievable, I have op and prof to lvl 5 in the FLP and rarely ever kill with one shot, in fact I can count on two hands the amount of OHK's I've had with it. (Edit: by ohk I mean they have full shields and armor) It does ** damage to shields, anything over 200 shields and it will take two shots to get it down at minimum. Damaging armor is where this thing shines, if I run into a group of guys with no shields or I hit a group with a flux, however, I'm not scared one bit, this thing shreds armor and can kill 3-4 in a group easily if they don't have shields. I think the biggest reason people are pissed is because they're getting killed by it so much, but I believe the reason people get killed by it so much is because it's a finishing weapon, you'll never see me shoot at you with a flaylock if you're shields are up unless I have to. I'm not bragging and I don't want the flaylock to get nerfed, I don't think it's overpowered, I'm just describing my experience. Of the three I killed 2 at least were running scouts but I didn't have time to take stock of all the suits, maybe they were **-fits or something, who the hell knows. I'm just saying it's possible. It's totally possible against the right suits, that's why I was asking. The heavy and two others with 3 rounds was the one that I can't believe.