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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4650	Posted - 2013.07.08 15:27:00 - [1] - Quote Submachine guns are like concentrated sun to tears when applied to armor.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4655	Posted - 2013.07.08 15:43:00 - [2] - Quote I've wanted overheat or bullet jam on Assault Rifles for forever. As a born again AR user, I still stand by that.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4658	Posted - 2013.07.08 15:56:00 - [3] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm comparing what's meant to be the primary gallente weapon to the primary amarr weapon. Isn't the Breach AR the primary Gallente AR? Gallente - Breach Amarr - Scrambler Minmatar - Burst Caldari - TAC The "normal" AR is just that, it's just kind of there. I pray that they keep working on the breach variant, because the range fix did very little to help this weapon when coupled with the roller skates we got. The ROF is way too low for its damage and complete lack of anything resembling range.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4660	Posted - 2013.07.08 16:12:00 - [4] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: You misunderstood what he said... the varients are placeholders. IE the AR is the gallente version...the tact is the amarr...the burst is the minmatar and the breach is the caldari. This is what was meant by the dev. See I never though the TAC was a placeholder for Amarr, if anything I felt the standard AR was an Amarr placeholder. The devs have stated caldari is getting the rail rifle, which is long range low damage. I just figured TAC was the closest we have to that. I'm almost positive the Breach is supposed to be the Gallente Plasma Blaster. The Burst is the Minmatar combat rifle. That's how I've always thought it was, at least.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4661	Posted - 2013.07.08 16:47:00 - [5] - Quote Just gonna chime in again here. Where is everyone getting that the standard AR is the Gallente AR? Can someone give me a link, because no where in its description does it say that it's Gallente :/
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4664	Posted - 2013.07.08 16:56:00 - [6] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Just gonna chime in again here. Where is everyone getting that the standard AR is the Gallente AR? Can someone give me a link, because no where in its description does it say that it's Gallente :/ If nothing else check the prices. The racial varient that is specific for that race is less expensive then the alternate varients meant to copy other racial types. Imp scrambler is cheaper than the assault scrambler.....the plasma assault rifle is cheaper than the tact/burst/breach rifles. This along with some other things I have read leads me to believe this but......I could be wrong....either way i dont think is makes that big of a difference. No it's definitely just an issue of semantics, it's just that I'm a Gallente fan boy and I'm getting prepared to be disappointed by the Plasma Blaster Rifle lmfao >_< Either way, have fun.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4671	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:15:00 - [7] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Niuvo wrote: duvolle is op, yup. the only gun that I dislike getting killed by at long range. yup, it's always the duvolle. the easiest weapon with a lot of damage to use. way to go guys. What must you think of the scrambler since its more accurate, with higher dmg, less recoil/disperion, better sight, and faster reload. (range is similar). People never want to take the SP system into account when claiming OP or UP. We aren't allowed to alter our choices, you're stuck with whatever you go for. Surprise surprise if more people are using the tried and true instead of investing deeply into a weapon that they may or may like / that may or may not get hit with the nerf nuke. This isn't directed at you Semper, just stating that because you don't see something all the time in every game (or if you do) doesn't necessarily dictate how OP or UP it is. There's lots more going on, not just in the gun game and numbers, but also in player psychology and habits.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4673	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:21:00 - [8] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: You're the dumabsses who asked for ironsights Semper is pubstomping you with proto logic bro :/
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4673	Posted - 2013.07.08 17:23:00 - [9] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: This was another reason I went with the scrambler. Its less SP to spec into is pretty deeply since you dont have to spec into the 2 different recoil/dispersion reducing skills (which reduces recoil/dispersion to similar levels of the scramblers base lvl). I actually didn't even notice that, nice. I'm stubborn and aggravated enough at having to use this ****** Amarr suit for my heavy, last thing I was gonna do is grab one of their rifles
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4683	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:11:00 - [10] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Hell the gar is the only weapon that requires weaponry level 1 in it's class It's not a Gallente Rifle, and if you're crying about the SP difference between Weaponry 1 and 3.....I just..... Change it. Go for it. Make it lv 5. It's so petty and minor.... I can't believe I used to be on your side of the fence :/ For shame.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4683	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:16:00 - [11] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Oh and it is indeed a gallente rifle The only possible indication for that is the art, and basically everything is a placeholder right now, so.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4683	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:29:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Oh and it is indeed a gallente rifle The only possible indication for that is the art, and basically everything is a placeholder right now, so. The gar has been confirmed as a gallente weapon by the devs..... The look of the rifle is that of gallente....... They are made by duvolle laboratories...... The Gallenta Plasma Blaster is the Gallente rifle The look is a place holder. Every other AR that is a placeholder is made by Duvolle laboratories. Just saying, standard AR is not Gallente AR. Crappy mc crap crap Breach AR is Gallente.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4683	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:34:00 - [13] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: Pretty sure you are misunderstanding him. Right now the gallente have 4 variations. (one that is their own and then 3 copies of other racial varients). Fiend does not know if the specific racial version for gallente is supposed to be the AR or the burst AR. Personally I think its the AR but he is just not sure and that is what he is questioning. Every race will have 4 varients of the AR with 1 being more specific to their race and 3 being copies of other racial varients........I think that the easiest way to tell is probably see what varient is the least expensive..that is probably the varient for that specific race. It would make sense that the varients that are copies of other racial varients would be more expensive. Not the Burst, the Breach, but otherwise yes.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4684	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:14:00 - [14] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: It has been Confirmed by CCp repeatedly. Breach AR-Caldari Placeholder Burst AR-Minmatar Placeholder TAR- ScR Mockup Standard AR- Gallante AR, Not the Gallante Placeholder. All I know is they said the rail rifle is supposed to be Caldari, which has long range low damage, not high damage low range like the breach. It's pointless semantics until 8097 when they're released anyways. The standard AR as we know it will likely not even exist come then.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4685	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:29:00 - [15] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: The kept the TAR cause every AR will have those Variants eventually. And since the nonvariant ScR is considered the real ScR, you would think that the Nonvariant GAR would be the real GAR. Just saying... You're all probably right, I just thought Gallente battle doctrine was to get up close and personal with Blasters and tear things apart with high, close range DPS. Assuming your Drones haven't ripped them to shreds, that is.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4685	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:35:00 - [16] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Now that we have more Variety coming our way, they could Nerf the Range, and give the New Guns Less DPS Looks at Breach The Breach is so amazingly bad now that we have rollerskates :/ Seriously, go try it out. I've messed with so many kinds of fits to make this thing worth half a damn and I just can't get it to be worth anything. I was hoping the range fix would help it by letting project out a bit further, but everyone runs around so fast now the horrific RoF on it makes half of your shots miss because the HD is still meh. I dunno, here's hoping in 12090 when things get fully released we'll see some interesting, and more importantly, useful, changes to the Breach, whether for the Loldari or the glorious Gallente.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4689	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:05:00 - [17] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: So I assume that you will be complaining about the combat rifle and the rail rifle not having some kind of overheat/jamming mechanic right? I want them to add it in, personally. Only complete scrubs like myself just hold down on the trigger and full auto (I kid I kid, sort of...I do tend to pulse my shots) With a flaylock by your side, who cares about overheat? O.o

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