One of the major downfalls of any society is the radicals they produce. Republics produce hate mongers, dictatorships produce freedom fighters, theocracies produce religious zealots and tribes produce warlords among other things. I understand the rage but our officials need to realize that the acts of a few don't always reflect the ideals of the group.

My next post is my moment of silence in respect.

Its gonna be very hot time in new eden.i say caldaris conna start kill each other(not bad)and there is conna be civil war and then minamatar and gallentes seperates some reason and then all the factions start to take sides in caldari civil warBut then we immortal mercs will rise and push the factions out of power

Mr. Draco ...

(1) Tibus Heth's support base at this point consists of the Templis Dragonaurs and their sympathizers. This is a bit like the U-Nats in the Federation-- a pack of political-fringe terrorists who'd be funny if they didn't occasionally try to get attention by doing something remarkably horrible. The Dragonaurs have existed for over two hundred years and have been an illegal organization for just about as long. They had their day in the sun while Heth was Executor. Now? They can't even hold a single station.

It's not going to be much of a war. The Guristas are a larger threat.

(2) "We immortal mercs" don't yet fully understand the technologies that sustain us. Until we work that out, revolt is, in short, ill-advised.

Even afterwards, good luck getting us all aiming in the same direction. We're not New Eden's most cohesive single force-- in fact, our role so far is mostly to fight each other.

I love seeing Minmatar related post on the GalNet without any Minmatar posters. Reminds me that none of them actually have enough money to afford a transceiver.

I am glad the gallente are finally realizing what the Minmatar Scum are.

At least now appropriate measures are being made .

Oh, put I tracking disruptor on it, the caldari were only truely allies with you when they needed help. Now, they're collaborating with the disgruntled citizens of the empire, also know as the khanid.

Oh, put I tracking disruptor on it, the caldari were only truely allies with you when they needed help. Now, they're collaborating with the disgruntled citizens of the empire, also know as the khanid.

Tread carefully scum

Um. With respect, soldier, the Khanid Kingdom seems to have made its peace with the Empire. Also, please bear in mind that the ruler of said kingdom was, and (sort of?) is, an Amarrian heir. As in, eligible for the title of Emperor. It's sort of a high-stakes contest.

He wasn't picked, and preferred secession to suicide. That, ultimately, is what their departure was about.

As an aside, the Caldari trade more with the Kingdom than the Empire because the Khanid population is more willing to trade for exotic technology than the Empire is. It's a business relationship, largely, and if you're looking for a popular revolt by the oppressed and disenfranchised, this isn't it.

The Empire and State have their differences, but you're not going to make very much progress driving a wedge while the Federation and State remain at war.

You'll probably have difficulty as long as the Federation remains a viable threat at all.

Here's a little information about the person you perceive as scum, we both have "pure" Amarr blood. I rejected the teachings of our people all my life, but I didn't act on it until I saw firsthand the atrocities our people commit to the minmatar. The slave of my former boss and I stowed away on a bestower heading to jita. Through collaboration with the slaves aboard, we managed to take over the ship and return the mainly sanmatar population to nearby minmatar space, where I supplied each of them out.of pocket with a shuttle and basic necessities. I sought work in.caldari.space because of how much hype we give the isk earned in caldari space, particularly for lai dai. After working there for 1 year, I was captured during a serpentis raid, where I was treated like a slave until Cormack himself gave me,the opportunity to work with him. On my 27th fleet operation, Cormack was nearly killed.until I put a sensor damper on the enemy ship, which was soon after destroyed. Despite this turn of events, Cormack believed I betrayed him, which lead to him borrowing the methods of sansha to utterly destroy my memory. Once I was in an elite frigate again, I managed to force a pilot out of their condor after we were the last ships in the immediate area in exchange for their survival. My journal, despite being mostly destroyed, proved invaluable to me rebuilding my life. Using it I found my way back to the former slave I worked with in both my first career and freed slaves with. Through his help I managed to become officially part of the sanmatar tribe.

And so, you have come, through many trials, here, to speak with righteous voice the sins of the Empire ... though you apparently don't personally remember any of them?

Though there are major gaps in my memory, particularly the vast majority of my childhood, but the journal was only partly corrupted (it makes more sense to me if I edit it into a digital journal that's highly outdated and therefore losing information). My wotk experiences were thoroughly catalogued, everything from how that particular slave was taunted everywhere he went, to his eventual week with the "we wuv you" bears after being unable to work after a previous beating. Even during my oppression after the memory loss, I was given food and clean water multiple times a day and not injected with a lethal toxin that slavers use to control their slaves. After about a dozen weeks later I was returned to piloting, but only in low class frigates.

So ... respectfully, soldier, you know it's true because you read about it? And you have no reason to doubt the narrator?

Again, respectfully, this seems a somewhat flimsy framework for justifying large-scale murder.

The drug you're referring to is called "vitoc." It's controversial, and rather nasty stuff. If I remember, the formula gets modified regularly so that no particular version works for too many people. The drug itself, as I understand it, is harmless-- it's the withdrawal that will kill you. Like I said, nasty stuff.

But it interests me that the use of such things by a few justifies, in your mind, mass-slaughter of people whose great sin is apparently being as they were taught to be.

Here's a little information about the person you perceive as scum, we both have "pure" Amarr blood. I rejected the teachings of our people all my life, but I didn't act on it until I saw firsthand the atrocities our people commit to the minmatar. The slave of my former boss and I stowed away on a bestower heading to jita. Through collaboration with the slaves aboard, we managed to take over the ship and return the mainly sanmatar population to nearby minmatar space, where I supplied each of them out.of pocket with a shuttle and basic necessities. I sought work in.caldari.space because of how much hype we give the isk earned in caldari space, particularly for lai dai. After working there for 1 year, I was captured during a serpentis raid, where I was treated like a slave until Cormack himself gave me,the opportunity to work with him. On my 27th fleet operation, Cormack was nearly killed.until I put a sensor damper on the enemy ship, which was soon after destroyed. Despite this turn of events, Cormack believed I betrayed him, which lead to him borrowing the methods of sansha to utterly destroy my memory. Once I was in an elite frigate again, I managed to force a pilot out of their condor after we were the last ships in the immediate area in exchange for their survival. My journal, despite being mostly destroyed, proved invaluable to me rebuilding my life. Using it I found my way back to the former slave I worked with in both my first career and freed slaves with. Through his help I managed to become officially part of the sanmatar tribe.

Soldiers, respectfully, can we perhaps take this into the thread that was actually founded on bile to begin with? There's little courtesy to the Ray of Matar in either defending the history of the Amarr or violently denouncing it.

With respect, you both represent forces she opposed. May I ask that we withdraw?

Soldiers, respectfully, can we perhaps take this into the thread that was actually founded on bile to begin with? There's little courtesy to the Ray of Matar in either defending the history of the Amarr or violently denouncing it.

With respect, you both represent forces she opposed. May I ask that we withdraw?

You cannot have amarri blod when you clearly are of Caldari descent. ((too bad for picking the wrong bloodline))

This truce to be respectful is a good sign that all four races can work together even if we have out differences. There is no need for a war over radicalized terrorists whom prey on the innocent and incite violence between our peoples. Tragedies like this are unavoidable in free societies and do not reflect social norms or beliefs. Civility in these troubled times is worth it weight in morphite and cannot be overlooked.

I am more worried about our relationship with the Minmatar than with the Caldari or Amarr. Slave driving facists will get what they deserve for their atrocities. Our Minmatar brethren deserve our respect and I don't want to go to war over a murder that shouldn't have happened.

The Caldari and Amarr are good peoples governed by a sick and twisted set of governments. We may not be perfect but at least we are free and freedom is the ultimate goal of all living things. All things come full circle and 10 fold and we will see when the time comes who is correct. I bet it will not the oppressors.

Yet another imperialist Gallentean preaching his view where nobody asked him too......