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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:24:00 -
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both just a disaster to any new player trying to play for his / her first time.
CCP your not realizing this but its just not looking good for new players.
the pub stomping proto gus vs fresh fish.
i understand this is a cutthroat style game but foreal be honest here you think stuffing fresh fish into a server full of mass drivers and flaylocks is fair?
i use proto flaylocks and i can clearly say they are op.
i understand you make a weapon op just so ppl can spec into them then power nerf them out of the blue but why not stop making the game harder to fix for you and place the original balance intended for the weapon right the first time & also making the game really hard for new guys to learn or play because ill be honest if i was just starting off and jumped into a FW match or regular public match with nothing and im constantly getting face fuqed by these weapons id slam dance on my ps3 kick my tv and drink bleach.
then blame u guys for it.
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:28:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:you seemed to have put a little more effort into this than you normally do...
man to be honest its just sad to see this and people not playing because of it.
i had a member from bf3 play he said this
the game would be nice if i didnt get trashed everytime i spawned. then he never came back. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:38:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Spademan wrote:I don't understand it, they work the same as they did in Chromo, why the sudden usage en masse? Hit ditection, frame rate, and an extra m blast radius
overhaul as in what? removing acadamy and actually doing skill based servers? so 1.noobs fight noobs and learn to get better by fighting people in thier own lvl and 2. so the pros can actually play against pros in fw matches? that would be the best way to do it tbh. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:40:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:both just a disaster to any new player trying to play for his / her first time.
CCP your not realizing this but its just not looking good for new players.
the pub stomping proto gus vs fresh fish.
i understand this is a cutthroat style game but foreal be honest here you think stuffing fresh fish into a server full of mass drivers and flaylocks is fair?
i use proto flaylocks and i can clearly say they are op.
i understand you make a weapon op just so ppl can spec into them then power nerf them out of the blue but why not stop making the game harder to fix for you and place the original balance intended for the weapon right the first time & also making the game really hard for new guys to learn or play because ill be honest if i was just starting off and jumped into a FW match or regular public match with nothing and im constantly getting face fuqed by these weapons id slam dance on my ps3 kick my tv and drink bleach.
then blame u guys for it.
im sorry, to be fair though when i ganked you with the freedom i had put 4 points of proficiancy into it and stacked 2 damage mods. wich with any weapon would put a huge dent into somebody.
lol nice try but try someone who u actually killed with it cuz it wasnt me.
the game we played against you resulted in you guys being spawn camped. remember?
then the next game right after that we ended up on the same team with of course 8 of my guys on top.
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:44:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:CCP have stated (somewhere) they are doing a complete overhall on matchmaking. Only thing thats going to fix this tbh. We can see the problem and im sure CCP can too
MD's are actually working now (little too much splash dmg maybe), flaylocks are broke. Yeah the splash buff wasnt needed. Just making it work was enough. As for the flaylocks, they're obvious win buttons and i refuse to train such petty things. Shouldnt have anyway near that much splash damage.
i spec'ed into them because those things were alot of my deaths also i dont use them on regular guys without proto i only use them when i know a corp who uses them and i see them in a mass of players using them. then i bring it out to make the fight fair because like u said it is a win and its just stupid that people call themself elite but exploit every glitch and op weapon to stat pad.. this only shows how much of a sore loser that person or corp can be.
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:47:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Spademan wrote:I don't understand it, they work the same as they did in Chromo, why the sudden usage en masse? Hit ditection, frame rate, and an extra m blast radius overhaul as in what? removing acadamy and actually doing skill based servers? so 1.noobs fight noobs and learn to get better by fighting people in thier own lvl and 2. so the pros can actually play against pros in fw matches? that would be the best way to do it tbh. No idea, was an ofhand coment in some obscure post lol, tho it does keep coming up obviously. Mostly comments on how they are looking at more metrics to dictate balance (not just KDR, WP, Skill lv etc) So yeah noob v noob "pro" v "pro". Tho i expect faction warfare to be the free for all it is now 
we will see how long it takes them to try and do this.
i dont think it will happen but it would be nice to actually see this and corp matches come back for either corp v corp or training for matches such as pc. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:32:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:both just a disaster to any new player trying to play for his / her first time.
CCP your not realizing this but its just not looking good for new players.
the pub stomping proto gus vs fresh fish.
I just got out of a game against your corp going 10 protos vs random pubbies. I sat in the MCC and watched your hoard of HAVs/LAVs plough around the battlefield. I'm thinking playing against that wasn't much fun for newbies either.
lol funny cuz i dont use proto.
if people did use proto not my fault and wasnt me. i cannot tell my team what to use i can only express what i feel about the game.
and tanks were standard not proto.
FW matches are for teams to get grouped up and run battles which is why i posted a thread about that as well stating that fresh fish should not be playing fw that it should just be for the better players
and based on skill.
but this doesnt say much for you as a player now does it? sitting in the mcc made it that much harder to win a game u chose to join.
my guys will que sync and use proto if they feel like it. i dont agree with proto usage in pub matches but like i said before i cannot tell people what to wear i can only speak on how i feel about battles. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:15:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:MD's didn't get an extra meter buff...it was simply returned to its Chromosome stats after it had been nerfed away. There are way more AR kills in the kill feed than anything else so stop your QQing. Can't speak on the FP cause I haven't used it.
dont you feel stupid? who is QQ?
learn to read and understand a post before assuming someone is qq'ing. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:17:00 -
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A B Ablabab wrote:I Use MDs and Flaylocks. No proto. My fit costs less than 30k and requires little SP to use (As any EVE player will tell you more SP just makes fits better).
It actually impresses me CCP had the foresight to nurf MDs in the last build when it was extremely difficult to get them to hit a barn. Now they seem pretty well balanced.
As for flaylocks: they MIGHT be OP. I really want to see someone who's maxed out the skill shrub for scram pistols and see what they say. Personally I die way more often to SMGs than to flaylocks.
I think flaylocks are just noticeable, as mentioned in another thread the expend their full energy very quickly and it's very visible when they do.
In a match this evening I saw a redberry running at me behind cover, I switched to my flaylock and fired a single round at the exit to the cover. losing small amount of his shield to splash he turned and bolted the other direction. I've heard this called 'area denial', and it's what MDs and flaylocks do by design.
It's easy to look at an MD round which can come from nowhere and do massive damage and say it's unbalanced. But really it's no different to when you're using an AR, or an SR, and you see the other guy first. Short of some spectacular acrobatics (s)he's gonna have a bad time.
Just my 2-ó...
(PS. I run MD because I find it hillarious, not OP. Seriously I kill myself half the time with that thing)
Md isnt a issue really but the flaylocks and proto pub stomp is the game loses more players based on unfair gameplay on ccp's behalf then anything. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:19:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:Before I start addressing this, I cant believe you started this post Anon...
I can agree with the flaylock being OP, the splash damage is crazy. Damage / CPU&PG use is the best in the game.
The MD is back to working as intended, there hasn't been a respec since this was updated so the people who are playing with Proto MDs have had them for a while or just picked them up with the 3x SP. We (MD users after launch) put up with non functional MDs for so long and when they start working correctly again people start bitching about an OP weapon.
New weapons in most games are OP, so bitching about those is just part of a games life cycle, but when CCP fixes the hit detection on a weapon they broke I call BS.
To CPM/Devs, fix what you introduced already broken(Flaylocks) don't break what you just fixed(MDs).
i havent really seen alot of md's but flaylocks are just bad dude. period. i use one with and without profiecency its just powerful so i imagine what it does with full strength. |
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:20:00 -
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and besides i just said fresh fish. not me you know how i play bettie and i do good even in bad games. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:02:00 -
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J3f3r20n Gh057 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:both just a disaster to any new player trying to play for his / her first time.
CCP your not realizing this but its just not looking good for new players.
the pub stomping proto gus vs fresh fish.
i understand this is a cutthroat style game but foreal be honest here you think stuffing fresh fish into a server full of mass drivers and flaylocks is fair?
i use proto flaylocks and i can clearly say they are op.
i understand you make a weapon op just so ppl can spec into them then power nerf them out of the blue but why not stop making the game harder to fix for you and place the original balance intended for the weapon right the first time & also making the game really hard for new guys to learn or play because ill be honest if i was just starting off and jumped into a FW match or regular public match with nothing and im constantly getting face fuqed by these weapons id slam dance on my ps3 kick my tv and drink bleach.
then blame u guys for it.
What i'm trying to figure it out is why CCP introduced the Flaylock....It's an unnecessary weapon, because you know, we already have the MD....
agreed. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:50:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:J3f3r20n Gh057 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:both just a disaster to any new player trying to play for his / her first time.
CCP your not realizing this but its just not looking good for new players.
the pub stomping proto gus vs fresh fish.
i understand this is a cutthroat style game but foreal be honest here you think stuffing fresh fish into a server full of mass drivers and flaylocks is fair?
i use proto flaylocks and i can clearly say they are op.
i understand you make a weapon op just so ppl can spec into them then power nerf them out of the blue but why not stop making the game harder to fix for you and place the original balance intended for the weapon right the first time & also making the game really hard for new guys to learn or play because ill be honest if i was just starting off and jumped into a FW match or regular public match with nothing and im constantly getting face fuqed by these weapons id slam dance on my ps3 kick my tv and drink bleach.
then blame u guys for it.
What i'm trying to figure it out is why CCP introduced the Flaylock....It's an unnecessary weapon, because you know, we already have the MD.... agreed. Disagreed. The game needs more Minmatar everything. Weapons, suits, vehicles. I want more rust.
the race weapons and suits need to come out yes but over powered weapons and suits dont. each race has to have a kryptonite for another because right now there is nothing that can kill a flaylock. especially running a super fast suit
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