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21yrOld Knight
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:27:00 -
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Now I have a few ideas but i want to hear your guy's opinion. No offense ccp but when you added the eve population to the game population tracker in dust it makes me think that your hiding the decreasing game population. Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time. During the first week after May 14 there was on average just under 8000 ,before the 1.3 update it was on average 4000. So my question is how do you guys think the game can be improved to attract new players. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
800
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:28:00 -
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Idea to increase game population.
It's simple, just add new players! |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
857
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:29:00 -
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Free minmatar slaves for everyone? |
chopper911ed
The Malevolent Monkey Militia
1
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:33:00 -
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Free LAV's. No wait we already got those. CCP please get rid of those. |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:33:00 -
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Finish the beta? |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1108
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:35:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Free minmatar slaves for everyone? I like this idea. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
272
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:36:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend.
Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
141
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:43:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend. Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D
This. Invite, and let me stress, good players. And what I mean by good, I mean the kind who are prepared to face what Dust has in store for them. Cause this isn't your pick up and play, all sprinting with the shotty-every man for himself, type of game. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:45:00 -
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bigger maps
24/24 teams or larger
balanced vehicles
more weapons
blah blah blah |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
104
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:47:00 -
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Here's one.
Make the gooder!
Best idea EVAH! |
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Akdhar Saif
Resistance of Tomorrow
3
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:48:00 -
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for all intents and purposes we're still in beta, CCP just "released" Dust to get Sony off their backs.
I'd say we're safely out of Beta once some sort of PVE content is released plus the Gladiator Match Mode.
The Game will be complete once ISK can flow between the two games and all Regions are open for PC. |
21yrOld Knight
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
12
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:03:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend. Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D This. Invite, and let me stress, good players. And what I mean by good, I mean the kind who are prepared to face what Dust has in store for them. Cause this isn't your pick up and play, all sprinting with the shotty-every man for himself, type of game.
I think what you are saying invite good players to teach the new ones? That actually may be a good idea if there can be some title set on good players to teach new players how to play.
That's how i learned how to play dust from xxgeneral xxshots. He taught how to play the game successfully and brought my k/d up by a full point currently at a 2.06. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
983
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:07:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Now I have a few ideas but i want to hear your guy's opinion. No offense ccp but when you added the eve population to the game population tracker in dust it makes me think that your hiding the decreasing game population. Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time. During the first week after May 14 there was on average just under 8000 ,before the 1.3 update it was on average 4000. So my question is how do you guys think the game can be improved to attract new players.
Actual Dust players:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
There's no secret.
Player count has been higher due to the 3x weekend, but not a lot. Concurrent player count is topping out at about 6k instead of 4k. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
129
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:10:00 -
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My apologies Knight. After reading the thread title I thought this was going to be some joke thread about promiscuous sex.
Player retention is just as important and that would be improved with better matchmaking. CCP already took the first step towards that but it still needs serious improvement. Happy players makes for good press and getting others they know into the game.. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
517
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:14:00 -
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Monthly updates and patches that address some player feedback concerns and some performance issues. Small incremental patches and new shinnies to play with. I would love to see them start dropping new modules in loot before they are on the market as an incentive for players to play. If a new suit is coming out next month then it should start showing up in loot a couple of weeks in advance. This would create some content and get people on the forums to brag or ask questions.
I don't think they should warn us or tell us what the loot will be and then they can judge the performance of the item based on the loot trials and have a baseline to pre-balance the item with before full release to the market. This would feed the need for content, forum visits and would also help retain people who are bored. These items should be all tiers and should require no skills. Have them draw the correct CPU/PG but require no skills. No skill "prototype" items make mercs feel like we have something special.
CONSTANT dev feedback on weapon balance. I don't want set in stone numbers but more info and graphs on purchases, killboards and overall uses. Just more balance talk. I think that the balances issue is a topic that can easily be discussed and not cause too much forum rage. Just talk. Not promises, soons or any other in development ideas. Just constant talk, even if it is just a one word post.
I think these two things will pull in players and help hold them. Online player numbers are going to fluctuate wildly for a while because of real life stuff and new games. In a year or so I would predict that the player base will have grown and stabilized. To a point where balancing and matchmaking is much better.
The point is that we need constant feedback from devs to show new players that CCP does listen and monthly updates that make the game feel fresh and new more often. A release of gear like in 1.2 is perfect. Enough to feed the forums but not much more than they can balance in about 3 weeks. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2882
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:15:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Now I have a few ideas but i want to hear your guy's opinion. No offense ccp but when you added the eve population to the game population tracker in dust it makes me think that your hiding the decreasing game population. Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time. During the first week after May 14 there was on average just under 8000 ,before the 1.3 update it was on average 4000. So my question is how do you guys think the game can be improved to attract new players.
Better Aiming and fix the heavies,scouts,tanks,HMG |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:16:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend. Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D This. Invite, and let me stress, good players. And what I mean by good, I mean the kind who are prepared to face what Dust has in store for them. Cause this isn't your pick up and play, all sprinting with the shotty-every man for himself, type of game. I think what you are saying invite good players to teach the new ones? That actually may be a good idea if there can be some title set on good players to teach new players how to play. That's how i learned how to play dust from xxgeneral xxshots. He taught how to play the game successfully and brought my k/d up by a full point currently at a 2.06.
Xxgeneral xxshots is a thief thought you would of learned that by now.
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2883
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:19:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend. Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D This. Invite, and let me stress, good players. And what I mean by good, I mean the kind who are prepared to face what Dust has in store for them. Cause this isn't your pick up and play, all sprinting with the shotty-every man for himself, type of game. I think what you are saying invite good players to teach the new ones? That actually may be a good idea if there can be some title set on good players to teach new players how to play. That's how i learned how to play dust from xxgeneral xxshots. He taught how to play the game successfully and brought my k/d up by a full point currently at a 2.06. Xxgeneral xxshots is a thief thought you would of learned that by now.
I know him |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:22:00 -
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I was in a alliance with him. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2883
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:25:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:I was in a alliance with him.
I make him cry |
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21yrOld Knight
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:26:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:I was in a alliance with him.
can we please stay on topic and look at my alliance tab i helped make the OTF alliance talk to me on dust please dont add drama to forum post that has nothing to do with the alliance. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2884
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:29:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:I was in a alliance with him. can we please stay on topic and look at my alliance tab i helped make the OTF alliance talk to me on dust please dont add drama to forum post that has nothing to do with the alliance.
Hm |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:31:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:I was in a alliance with him. can we please stay on topic and look at my alliance tab i helped make the OTF alliance talk to me on dust please dont add drama to forum post that has nothing to do with the alliance.
Ok I will hire new people to use murder taxis and I'll give them 50k for running standard and advanced gear and 250k for proto gear some might do. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
286
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:26:00 -
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loumanchew wrote:Finish the beta? lol |
Smoky Fingers
Red STar. EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:29:00 -
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make babies |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:55:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:make babies
I'll get started on this project. |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr.
16
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:16:00 -
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Player driven advertising; going onto gaming forums and introducing players to the game. There are plenty of YouTube videos that provide a variety of different perspectives on the game and what it can offer.
We need some player driven tournaments, too, that we can broadcast on Twitch. Find some synergy with Eve in doing this and show what the game is capable of even at this Quasi-Beta-Sorta-Not-Beta Stage.
More niche sites like http://dustreports.com/. Games, ultimately, are community driven and CCP has always encouraged a very, very flexible level of freedom with its players. Hopefully, CCP will be giving more utilities to Dusters that will allow for this - the integration between Eve and Dust is a delicate balance and they're going to take it slow but it is still something that we can highlight to other players.
The learning curve is pretty steep. DUST University isn't bad with teaching newbs but I think they may have a logistics problem due the sheer number of players that have joined it. We need other corps that could help their load - teachers who would be willing to give classes in the game, tips and advice. More community videos explaining the mechanics of the game.
Fix the LAV issue - I don't have an answer at the moment but I brought a friend in from last night and after running a couple of matches with him where he was splattered a few times, he quickly grew frustrated as he wasn't being given the chance to adapt quickly enough to the feel of the game nor defend himself properly. I encouraged him to get AV grenades asap. Hopefully he sticks with it.
Help players realize this isn't a typical FPS and comes close to being an MMO. Help them realize the scope of the universe they're becoming a part of.
For the love of everything good, we need some kind of marketplace that we can sell salvage gear in, trade with players and even some sort of resources that can move between Eve and Dust via PC. Maybe we can take barren worlds where districts can be some sort of mining zone, providing resources that Eve players need. The corps passively mine a finite amount of resources from these districts before they are converted into production zones, warehouses, cloning stations or military industrial complexes that produce weapons that can in turn be sold to Dusters and Pilots.
I think being active on social forums/blogs is a good start if anything; I've come across some Eve-focused blogs that don't look fondly on Dust but it seems me that some of these views are coming from a place of inexperience, as they don't really seem to have played the game.
More utilities for corporations - maybe one corporation simply wants to be the financial backer of another corporation who wants to be the soldiers on the ground. There should be systems in place that allows them to easily share districts and split the profits without too much middle manning.
All in all; more content, more battles, more Eve style shenanigans that will give us stories to tell, clones to kill and planets to conquer in the name of the Empress. Er, I mean, in the name of Isk and War. Yeah, that's it. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
231
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:17:00 -
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A commercial? Somewhere outside of the gaming community? Walmartians love free. Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
28
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:52:00 -
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we need dust version of eve high sec, militia/standard only playlist. i would say militia only but not everthing has a militia varient, decrease isk/sp gain in high sec |
JimJones22
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:00:00 -
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Looks really shady combining both games numbers. We all know 3k is shamefully low. |
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LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
39
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:57:00 -
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After a simple commercial to get the masses to come check out a free game I suggest $10 AUR respecs so those new players can respec after they have a handle on the game. This would also bring back the old vets whom have left because they are tired of the grind. |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
155
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:59:00 -
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JimJones22 wrote:Looks really shady combining both games numbers. We all know 3k is shamefully low. It's to show we're one universe. Don't see why someone wouldn't play the game depending on how many are on. I'll play Dust whether it has 3000 or 30000 players. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
410
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:07:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Which since its release has dropped by 4000 players at one time Was over 6.000 whole weekend. Also, why do you care about online numbers? Play the game, get friends in, and it will be all good ;D
sorry to say but it's been a while since we got 6k players online
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust |
Operative 1174 Uuali
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
15
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Posted - 2013.07.09 04:55:00 -
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Hookers. Big bag of weed. People who know how to make a better game.
I'm just spitballing here. |
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