DUST Search - CCP Blam, could you tell us any info on dropship update progress?

Serimos Haeraven wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

Serimos Haeraven wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

Why are you asking questions that you know the answer to?

Because there could actually be a good chance it's coming, since they followed up on 2 of those promises listed in that reply

Their idea of fixing dropships was going to be forcing them to use a pilot suit to be semi viable at all. A HUGE SP sink, which at some point they even said might affect things like "War points gained". A seriously lazy way to tack on rewards. Spend 3 million SP on a suit so you get ANY wp, and maybe over 3 years you'll make back the investment! Derp.

I'm not even making this up either.

Anyhow, the pilot suits aren't going to be in 1.3. Likely not 1.4 now either.

And when it comes it will be disappointing. Also any 'buff' it gives DS will have it's practical effectiveness multiplied by 5 when used with a LAV or HAV. So, think of pilot suits as a minor buff to DS and major buff to LAV/HAV. SInce they'll use it more efficiently so really we're getting vehicles that will kill DS easier and be harder for DS to kill.

I still retain some hope that what CCP Blam said about WP will be fixed, as well as countermeasures being put in place. I wouldn't count on the pilot suit as the only update dropships will get, because i mean, the consensious of how ****** over dropship pilots are right now is higher than ever, and if CCP doesn't recognize this, it will be their loss, literally.


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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 743	Posted - 2013.07.08 00:20:00 - [1] - Quote Why are you asking questions that you know the answer to?
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 753	Posted - 2013.07.08 00:29:00 - [2] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Why are you asking questions that you know the answer to? Because there could actually be a good chance it's coming, since they followed up on 2 of those promises listed in that reply Their idea of fixing dropships was going to be forcing them to use a pilot suit to be semi viable at all. A HUGE SP sink, which at some point they even said might affect things like "War points gained". A seriously lazy way to tack on rewards. Spend 3 million SP on a suit so you get ANY wp, and maybe over 3 years you'll make back the investment! Derp. I'm not even making this up either. Anyhow, the pilot suits aren't going to be in 1.3. Likely not 1.4 now either. And when it comes it will be disappointing. Also any 'buff' it gives DS will have it's practical effectiveness multiplied by 5 when used with a LAV or HAV. So, think of pilot suits as a minor buff to DS and major buff to LAV/HAV. SInce they'll use it more efficiently so really we're getting vehicles that will kill DS easier and be harder for DS to kill.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 765	Posted - 2013.07.08 00:52:00 - [3] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Serimos Haeraven wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Why are you asking questions that you know the answer to? Because there could actually be a good chance it's coming, since they followed up on 2 of those promises listed in that reply Their idea of fixing dropships was going to be forcing them to use a pilot suit to be semi viable at all. A HUGE SP sink, which at some point they even said might affect things like "War points gained". A seriously lazy way to tack on rewards. Spend 3 million SP on a suit so you get ANY wp, and maybe over 3 years you'll make back the investment! Derp. I'm not even making this up either. Anyhow, the pilot suits aren't going to be in 1.3. Likely not 1.4 now either. And when it comes it will be disappointing. Also any 'buff' it gives DS will have it's practical effectiveness multiplied by 5 when used with a LAV or HAV. So, think of pilot suits as a minor buff to DS and major buff to LAV/HAV. SInce they'll use it more efficiently so really we're getting vehicles that will kill DS easier and be harder for DS to kill. I still retain some hope that what CCP Blam said about WP will be fixed, as well as countermeasures being put in place. I wouldn't count on the pilot suit as the only update dropships will get, because i mean, the consensious of how ****** over dropship pilots are right now is higher than ever, and if CCP doesn't recognize this, it will be their loss, literally. Dude they don't care simply because we're like 0.05% of the population. AR, ground, tanks, and murder taxi are their bread and butter. Why waste precious development resources on such a miniscule portion of the player base? It's a cold hard fact that as a company they have no incentive to fix DS, if anything they profit by leaving it as a pinyata for noob players to feel good about destroying with militia AV. Basically every DS pilot could quit the game and bring 2 players with them into the void, CCP would have the net effect of gaining money because new players who want this to be COD would be pleased and join as replacements.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 784	Posted - 2013.07.08 01:04:00 - [4] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I see a lot of speculation and theories being presented as facts in these... Ah... Arguments... Which is why i chose to be more optimistic, many are just speculation into what they will do, while CCP Blam seems to say otherwise. optimism is incompatible with expecting CCP to comment on a DS fix. Time has shown this to be true, sans some hollow words. If that's what you wanted then maybe you'll get lucky. Look back in time at all the "promises" made about DS. It's kind of impressive that none of it's come true.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 786	Posted - 2013.07.08 01:16:00 - [5] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Serimos Haeraven wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I see a lot of speculation and theories being presented as facts in these... Ah... Arguments... Which is why i chose to be more optimistic, many are just speculation into what they will do, while CCP Blam seems to say otherwise. optimism is incompatible with expecting CCP to comment on a DS fix. Time has shown this to be true, sans some hollow words. If that's what you wanted then maybe you'll get lucky. Look back in time at all the "promises" made about DS. It's kind of impressive that none of it's come true. I too had the same mind set before CCP Blam replied and they actually began to act on some of those promises, i have a feeling they will follow up eventually on the others. What when forever ago they said they'd lower DS price by about half. Then uprising came, it was in patch notes, but not in the patch. And it took them 3 months to swap a single value in a database that takes 5 seconds? And the reduction was one third? That my friends is what we call "A day late and a dollar short". Except it's several months late and several hundred thousand ISK short. Anyhow, this is how I see things getting done for DS. So wait a year or two they'll talk about it. Then a year later put it in patch notes. Then a few months later actually implement it, but it will be broken. Probably bring new bugs (like uprising turret and gunner bugs which they still have yet to even acknowledge and are GAME BREAKING for gunners). Then everyone's died of old age or quit dust.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 786	Posted - 2013.07.08 01:32:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Dropships, scouts, heavies, the sp rollover system, combat rifle, rail rifle... all things that have been put on hold while they work on core mechanics. I wouldn't expect new content until 1.5 at the earliest. Adding a line to give pilots WP for MCRU spawns, scanned enemies and a bit more HP isn't really content that takes time to do. They just refuse to because they claim it would be exploited yet are blind to the same "exploiting" that's done more easily with drop uplinks. It makes no sense. And as judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense. It's probably BS. Or something like that. In other words these are their excuses because they don't Want to.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 788	Posted - 2013.07.08 01:48:00 - [7] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Dropships, scouts, heavies, the sp rollover system, combat rifle, rail rifle... all things that have been put on hold while they work on core mechanics. I wouldn't expect new content until 1.5 at the earliest. Adding a line to give pilots WP for MCRU spawns, scanned enemies and a bit more HP isn't really content that takes time to do. They just refuse to because they claim it would be exploited yet are blind to the same "exploiting" that's done more easily with drop uplinks. It makes no sense. And as judge Judy says, if it doesn't make sense. It's probably BS. Or something like that. In other words these are their excuses because they don't Want to. "don't p*ss on my face and tell me it's raining" - Judge Judy A woman full of wisdom
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 823	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:53:00 - [8] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: so are we fairly sure the pilot suits are not coming out in 1.3? Of course not, why would they?