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gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:41:00 -
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So when i first heard about dust, i honestly thought it would cure my socom craveing, it sounded like a "tactical" shooter
Am i the only one that would like some friendly fire and some no-respawn game modes?
Games are a complete **** fest atm, its just spam explosives and llavs, not to mention stacked squads running these things, mass drivers, flaylocks, fused nades, its getting pathetic (and this is coming from someone that has alt with flaylock and mass driver)
At least with FF on dudes gota be carefull where he spamming this crap, and no re-spawn encourges team play as every man counts, not just your squad, i've lost count how many times logi run past me without healing as im not part of his "team" =/
I lone wolfed socom with np, i never got the vote to kick as i was good player, lone wolfs can be team players too, dusts making it incredibly hard for anyone that doesnt care to join a corp and run with a bunch of pussys
Soo is it just me who feels like this? lol
FF and no-respawn anybody??
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gbh08
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:55:00 -
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Bah lol
Im honestly dissapoint, CCP make a slightly hardcore space sim with some kind of perma death (not enough games do this)
except isk loss isnt enough to make this a hardcore shooter
At this rate i might as well go back to cod and bf, as what are you offereing isnt any diff other than a sci-fi setting, and if were going there, at least cod and bf can get there framerate in order (yeah feck there auto aim)
whoevers in charge needs sacking, or needs to make there mind up whether were having run and gun game or tactical shooter |
Nebuzar Draconis
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:06:00 -
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The no respawn is really stupid considering if you know the back story to EVE the Mercs we play were designed to be immortal and have new clones standing by for our consciousness to be transferred into at a moments notice on the battlefield. So no respawn really does kill that aspect of the story.
I would however like to see an option for game modes that do offer Friendly Fire so that people won't just run around aimlessly all the time shooting everyone and everything with out a care in the world.
Also this game was designed so that you could have options when building your character and fully customize yourself. Unlike COD and BF where you pick from a set of presets and everyone runs around as 1 of 4 different people.
Dust is designed for the long haul FPS player not the normal COD console players that enjoy having no options, doing nothing and having no impact on anything but some 10 year olds kill death ratio. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:13:00 -
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Nebuzar Draconis wrote:The no respawn is really stupid considering if you know the back story to EVE the Mercs we play were designed to be immortal and have new clones standing by for our consciousness to be transferred into at a moments notice on the battlefield. So no respawn really does kill that aspect of the story.
I would however like to see an option for game modes that do offer Friendly Fire so that people won't just run around aimlessly all the time shooting everyone and everything with out a care in the world.
Also this game was designed so that you could have options when building your character and fully customize yourself. Unlike COD and BF where you pick from a set of presets and everyone runs around as 1 of 4 different people.
Dust is designed for the long haul FPS player not the normal COD console players that enjoy having no options, doing nothing and having no impact on anything but some 10 year olds kill death ratio.
I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta
The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially
long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4
my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit
to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys
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Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:34:00 -
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Friendly fire is on, but only in planetary conquest. Currently, pub matches are in Hi-sec, so maybe nul-sec battles will have friendly fire. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:21:00 -
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I'm totally down with the 1 clone left! Everyman would be more careful on how they assault, how they play. Everyone knows it will be extreme. I thought of an idea of you buy one clone at 40k isk and enter this "one-clone match" I think it will be fun. So I agree with the hardcore game mode 100% That's all I'll be playing. The rewards should be more isk then normal. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:25:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:Nebuzar Draconis wrote:The no respawn is really stupid considering if you know the back story to EVE the Mercs we play were designed to be immortal and have new clones standing by for our consciousness to be transferred into at a moments notice on the battlefield. So no respawn really does kill that aspect of the story.
I would however like to see an option for game modes that do offer Friendly Fire so that people won't just run around aimlessly all the time shooting everyone and everything with out a care in the world.
Also this game was designed so that you could have options when building your character and fully customize yourself. Unlike COD and BF where you pick from a set of presets and everyone runs around as 1 of 4 different people.
Dust is designed for the long haul FPS player not the normal COD console players that enjoy having no options, doing nothing and having no impact on anything but some 10 year olds kill death ratio. I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4 my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys They'll probably have no-respawn modes for the "Gladiator" suite they intend to put in.
This would be the in-universe equivalent of an actual gladitorial arena, with game-modes that wouldn't make any sense in context of a real war, like the modes we have right now.
We'll be able to spectate these matches, and gamble on them in real time. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:38:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:I'm totally down with the 1 clone left! Everyman would be more careful on how they assault, how they play. Everyone knows it will be extreme. I thought of an idea of you buy one clone at 40k isk and enter this "one-clone match" I think it will be fun. So I agree with the hardcore game mode 100% That's all I'll be playing. The rewards should be more isk then normal.
Feck yeah, well least im not the only one, like socom, you take fecking care of your clone, it would change game dynamics 100% and id like to think the only dudes in there would be there more hardcore mindset of players rather than this spray and pray **** we got going on
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:50:00 -
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all i gotta say is charged and thale sniper rifles everywhere |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:54:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:all i gotta say is charged and thale sniper rifles everywhere I'll take care of those...with a charged. |
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gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:57:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:all i gotta say is charged and thale sniper rifles everywhere
your prolly right, which sucks, which again shows what crowd this games is catering too, the cod crowd, sucks |
Nebuzar Draconis
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:06:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:
I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta
The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially
long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4
my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit
to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys
There is no PS4 announcement because Sony funded the development of Dust 514 as a PS3 EXCLUSIVE to boost PS3 sales so if you want a PS4 announcement complain to Sony Entertainment Corp not CCP.
If you want a tactical shooter with no respawn play Mech Warrior Online (it's glitches are worse than Dust) or Counter-Strike and quit whining and crying about how this game (which is still in BETA) sucks so much because you can't hack or cheat like in COD. The few games that have no respawn are painfully slow matches once it gets down to the last few people on each side and they have a VERY small following. This is simply because people just want to be in the action not spectating for 10 minutes because they were the first to get killed by a sniper.
Besides at least CCP listens to the players and makes changes based on what they say. Unlike every other FPS which just says give us more money, then nothing still ever gets changed or fixed. |
gbh08
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:11:00 -
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Nebuzar Draconis wrote:gbh08 wrote:
I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta
The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially
long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4
my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit
to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys
There is no PS4 announcement because Sony funded the development of Dust 514 as a PS3 EXCLUSIVE to boost PS3 sales so if you want a PS4 announcement complain to Sony Entertainment Corp not CCP. If you want a tactical shooter with no respawn play Mech Warrior Online (it's glitches are worse than Dust) or Counter-Strike and quit whining and crying about how this game (which is still in BETA) sucks so much because you can't hack or cheat like in COD. The few games that have no respawn are painfully slow matches once it gets down to the last few people on each side and they have a VERY small following. This is simply because people just want to be in the action not spectating for 10 minutes because they were the first to get killed by a sniper. Besides at least CCP listens to the players and makes changes based on what they say. Unlike every other FPS which just says give us more money, then nothing still ever gets changed or fixed.
again your describing cod, please, how long has counter strike been running successfully for?! theres a market for that ****, console players arnt all codboys, dust is advertised as tactical shooter, yet its missing chunks,
ccp listening to players?????? how long did we bust beta for? and how many weird uneeded chages were made?
brown noseing ccp gets you no cred here
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:17:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:Nebuzar Draconis wrote:gbh08 wrote:
I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta
The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially
long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4
my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit
to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys
There is no PS4 announcement because Sony funded the development of Dust 514 as a PS3 EXCLUSIVE to boost PS3 sales so if you want a PS4 announcement complain to Sony Entertainment Corp not CCP. If you want a tactical shooter with no respawn play Mech Warrior Online (it's glitches are worse than Dust) or Counter-Strike and quit whining and crying about how this game (which is still in BETA) sucks so much because you can't hack or cheat like in COD. The few games that have no respawn are painfully slow matches once it gets down to the last few people on each side and they have a VERY small following. This is simply because people just want to be in the action not spectating for 10 minutes because they were the first to get killed by a sniper. Besides at least CCP listens to the players and makes changes based on what they say. Unlike every other FPS which just says give us more money, then nothing still ever gets changed or fixed. again your describing cod, please, how long has counter strike been running successfully for?! theres a market for that ****, console players arnt all codboys, dust is advertised as tactical shooter, yet its missing chunks, ccp listening to players?????? how long did we bust beta for? and how many weird uneeded chages were made? brown noseing ccp gets you no cred here Look, there's no issue with the current respawn system other than it letting you spawn on objectives. Losing ISK from deaths is more than effective enough at preventing the kind of gameplay popular in Planetside where you endeavor to drown them in a sea of bodies, and as I posted earlier, they'll have a separate suite of modes that will probably support what you're talking about in the theme of a "sporting event" type thing. |
Nebuzar Draconis
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: They'll probably have no-respawn modes for the "Gladiator" suite they intend to put in.
This would be the in-universe equivalent of an actual gladitorial arena, with game-modes that wouldn't make any sense in context of a real war, like the modes we have right now.
We'll be able to spectate these matches, and gamble on them in real time.
Now that makes sense for a no-respawn match up, and I'm totally for the gambling part of it too. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:26:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:gbh08 wrote:Nebuzar Draconis wrote:gbh08 wrote:
I dont care for cod, which is why i havnt played it since i got in the dust beta
The eve story and imortal clones..... well, its not like dust has much to do with eve anyhows, so **** that ****, also, how many console players gives a **** about eve..... none, except you evetards that brought a ps3 especially
long haul fps with no ps4 announcement, yep good luck with that, dust will end up with all the poor scrubs that cant afford ps4 and love to play a free game without spending cash, the money spenders will be playing ps4
my point is, dust was kinda advertised as "tactical" shooter, which is it not, and it plays more like cod, except with worse framerate than you on fps'er player would care to admit
to get out the cod position were at, we need some ff and no-respawn, to seperate the men from the cod boys
There is no PS4 announcement because Sony funded the development of Dust 514 as a PS3 EXCLUSIVE to boost PS3 sales so if you want a PS4 announcement complain to Sony Entertainment Corp not CCP. If you want a tactical shooter with no respawn play Mech Warrior Online (it's glitches are worse than Dust) or Counter-Strike and quit whining and crying about how this game (which is still in BETA) sucks so much because you can't hack or cheat like in COD. The few games that have no respawn are painfully slow matches once it gets down to the last few people on each side and they have a VERY small following. This is simply because people just want to be in the action not spectating for 10 minutes because they were the first to get killed by a sniper. Besides at least CCP listens to the players and makes changes based on what they say. Unlike every other FPS which just says give us more money, then nothing still ever gets changed or fixed. again your describing cod, please, how long has counter strike been running successfully for?! theres a market for that ****, console players arnt all codboys, dust is advertised as tactical shooter, yet its missing chunks, ccp listening to players?????? how long did we bust beta for? and how many weird uneeded chages were made? brown noseing ccp gets you no cred here Look, there's no issue with the current respawn system other than it letting you spawn on objectives. Losing ISK from deaths is more than effective enough at preventing the kind of gameplay popular in Planetside where you endeavor to drown them in a sea of bodies, and as I posted earlier, they'll have a separate suite of modes that will probably support what you're talking about in the theme of a "sporting event" type thing.
I havnt played planetside, as i've been too busy with dust
issue with gameplay at the moment is quite obvious, isk aside, its a wack cod \ bf clone, for many of us, its not what we were told or expceting
ff is already set for pc matches, so not hard to implement a skirm match for joe public
the truth prolly is, we cant have more game modes, because theres not enough of us playing, just like matchmaking, which in turn rebounds to the fact, dust is fecking shite and needs some serious re-thinking, otherwise, its gonna die with ps3
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Nebuzar Draconis
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:30:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:
again your describing cod, please, how long has counter strike been running successfully for?! theres a market for that ****, console players arnt all codboys, dust is advertised as tactical shooter, yet its missing chunks,
ccp listening to players?????? how long did we bust beta for? and how many weird uneeded chages were made?
brown noseing ccp gets you no cred here
First of all CS hasn't been popular for at least 7 years.
And yes CCP listens to it's players I don't say that to "brown nose" I say it because they do, if they didn't EVE wouldn't still be around 10 years after it's launch. No other game even gives a **** about the players except to get their $$$. I'm not saying that CCP hasn't at times completely screwed up the game mechanics, I know they have because I've been playing Dust since the start of closed Beta.
The point is they take the feedback, requests and suggestions into account when they make their changes, I have yet to play any other game that does that.
It's all about trial and error because in reality that's the only way you're going to get it right when you're doing something you haven't done before. So if you're just going to whine and cry about it then quit playing and go find another game. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:35:00 -
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Nebuzar Draconis wrote:gbh08 wrote:
again your describing cod, please, how long has counter strike been running successfully for?! theres a market for that ****, console players arnt all codboys, dust is advertised as tactical shooter, yet its missing chunks,
ccp listening to players?????? how long did we bust beta for? and how many weird uneeded chages were made?
brown noseing ccp gets you no cred here
First of all CS hasn't been popular for at least 7 years. And yes CCP listens to it's players I don't say that to "brown nose" I say it because they do, if they didn't EVE wouldn't still be around 10 years after it's launch. No other game even gives a **** about the players except to get their $$$. I'm not saying that CCP hasn't at times completely screwed up the game mechanics, I know they have because I've been playing Dust since the start of closed Beta. The point is they take the feedback, requests and suggestions into account when they make their changes, I have yet to play any other game that does that. It's all about trial and error because in reality that's the only way you're going to get it right when you're doing something you haven't done before. So if you're just going to whine and cry about it then quit playing and go find another game.
B\S, they got many good advice during closed beta, mostly ignored, they cant find fixes to exploits even though many have been suggested, low player count is dictating our gameplay now, we got low player count coz ccp doesnt listen and dont know what the **** they are doing
trial and error, for a aaa game, haha yeah ok
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Nebuzar Draconis
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:12:00 -
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Sorry I'll let you get back to screwing your mother, didn't mean to take up so much of your life on these forums.... Oh wait that's right this IS your life. How sad. |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:17:00 -
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Nebuzar Draconis wrote:Sorry I'll let you get back to screwing your mother, didn't mean to take up so much of your life on these forums.... Oh wait that's right this IS your life. How sad.
lmao
thats ***** still stuck in your teeth, seems to be covering your eyes now also
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Draco Marauder
Drunken Monkey's R and D Dust Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:23:00 -
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gbh08 do us all a favor and when your clone dies delete your account because you suck a bag of dix at this game. A 4 year old could kill you in this game with their eyes closed and you're saying you want no respawns..... HAHAHAHA!!!!! |
gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:31:00 -
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please.......
nothing wrong with my gun game, other than ccps bad framerate (slightly better since 1.2) in fact unless you seen me closed beta or TODAY then you cant really comment as today is first day i've got out mcc on this toon, and the few times i have i've run skinweave suit and murked bare proto scrubs
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Not to mention i been invited to sver, by quickgloves, and pfbh when they was around, i play skirm and i play hard, when i can be bothered, im 33 and have been playing video games since the fecking woody atari, dust while got potential is too much of a **** fest to put any effort into |
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