All of your threads say that it should take multiple AVers to down an HAV, while a single AVer should just be a deterrent.

News flash:
AVers don't get WP for being scary, and using tons of teamwork just for everyone but one person to get an assist doesn't help us either.

It currently takes a lone AVer to turn a profit- if there are more than 2, nobody is getting enough WP, and everyone is losing money.

That is all.

News Flash to the AVers, my Falchion costs 2.5mil. That means you would have to die 10 times with a 250k fit to get close to how much I spent,.
Asked the guys in SI who were AVers how often they die when taking down a tank, 4-5 times maximum solo.

If you get a Proto Breach Forge with a Complex Damage mod, you'll be hitting about 3000HP per shot, right? That's enough to two shot my Railgun Gunnlogi costing 1.4mil.

Everything comes down to price, you might not make your money back, but you won't go as far into red as I would if you die once.

All of your threads say that it should take multiple AVers to down an HAV, while a single AVer should just be a deterrent.

News flash:
AVers don't get WP for being scary, and using tons of teamwork just for everyone but one person to get an assist doesn't help us either.

It currently takes a lone AVer to turn a profit- if there are more than 2, nobody is getting enough WP, and everyone is losing money.

That is all.

and no one man should not be able to bring down an hav ... here grab an at4 go run solo after a t74 mbt and let me know how that works out for ya

Noo its not fair for one person to be able to solo a tank, not at all. it is not worth it to spend 2.5 mill on a tank and a single person blows you up. Does that sound appealing to any of the proto AV here? would you like to be on the reciving end? try see how long it takes you to quit dust like all the other tankers

Noo its not fair for one person to be able to solo a tank, not at all. it is not worth it to spend 2.5 mill on a tank and a single person blows you up. Does that sound appealing to any of the proto AV here? would you like to be on the reciving end? try see how long it takes you to quit dust like all the other tankers

What about proto AV? If I put the SP into AV I should have increased effectiveness against tanks to the point where I should solo lower end tanks very easily. I do agree though that it is incredibly stupid that one scrub with the starter AV can still do some significant damage to ADV level tanks. The real problem here though is that there are no proto tanks but there is still proto AV. Back in chromosome I remember trying to take out a few proto tanks and there was no way in heck that I was going to be soloing those tanks at any time.

and have you seen the officer forge gun?

What a joke
that thing makes killing EHP maxed dropships seem like slaying rats with your level 999 battle-mage-warrior-cleric-druid-paladin-chaos-bard.

one day the Sagaris will return

and no one man should not be able to bring down an hav ... here grab an at4 go run solo after a t74 mbt and let me know how that works out for ya

It only takes one man to blow the tracks off a real tank, so your logic is flawed.

news flash to AV and assaulters, its a 50 ton machine that can driver around the battle field, of course it should take a minimum of 2 AV players to take down a tank of the same tier. as you av continue to skill up you have the overall advantage since we don't have advanced or prototype tanks.

Have you seen the physics on them? No way a 50 ton machine goes into the air that easily.

And the point isn't for it to be realistic- the point is that AVers don't get **** for spending half the battle trying to blow up an HAV

Yeah, bad AVers don't make money, neither do bad vehicle players, and bad vehicle players lose a lot more than bad AVers.

it costs us 10x more isk to bring our stuff into battle than it does for you, are you saying that its fair for us to risk losing 10 matches of profit in one game while you risk losing maybe 100k isk of profit a game? no its not fair, nothing you guys want is fair to us and were fighting back with everything we have to keep you from nerfing us to total uselessness which is almost there

Your version of "fighting back" is ignoring the real problem and instead asking for HAVs to be god-mode again. Seems like tankers never recovered from losing the massive buff they got in replication.

we haven't even recovered from the nerf known as enforcer tanks

If you haven't noticed, the tech 2 HAV changes every few builds. First we had Black Ops, which were replaced by Marauder, and now Enforcer. Up next is Destroyer, which has improved tracking, as it's meant for AA.