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Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:14:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:ISuperstar wrote:You guys are scrubs, try hards, and you can all suck a big one. Hope you feel good stomping a bunch of randoms & newberries with your proto gear and tanks in the most lax game mode in the game.
I can understand though, after getting your asses spanked in Planetary Conquest there's only one thing left for you all to do right, stack 10-16 players on one side and play it like a competitive match.
Especially Seraphim Initiative. Scratch that, Cronos. HMMMM...
:) |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:38:00 -
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This is obviously anout outerheaven lol |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
60
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:59:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote: i run militia and basic fits ONLY, as does my corp. most of us CAN use proto, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using proto weapons or suits, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using militia or basic stuff, or if i was in MY proto stuff.
the REAL need to GG is that right there
i run around not hitting things I shoot at ONLY, as does my squad. most of us CAN shoot things, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using aiming and bullets, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using not aiming, or if i was in my AIMING mode? ....Dude. You don't want to play the game as designed? Fine. But, you're stupid to ***** about those that do. ahh, i see the epeen is strong with this one. fackoff dude. the game wasnt made with the intention of pubstomping randoms in proto gear (coughtryhardcough) it was made for planetary conquest (which is sadly half broke). just bc u want to feel all 'leet' and **** doesnt mean u should. you mad that I stomped you yesterday? I was just chillin with some friends in ill omens. Game was ment to be having fun and I had fun with my buddies. Sorry your not having fun.
was that an attempt to troll? if it was, it wasnt up to par.
stomped me? i was in militia gear, dude. quite an accomplishment
not like that wasnt the point a lot of ppl are trying to make, or anything |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
329
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:55:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote: i run militia and basic fits ONLY, as does my corp. most of us CAN use proto, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using proto weapons or suits, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using militia or basic stuff, or if i was in MY proto stuff.
the REAL need to GG is that right there
i run around not hitting things I shoot at ONLY, as does my squad. most of us CAN shoot things, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using aiming and bullets, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using not aiming, or if i was in my AIMING mode? ....Dude. You don't want to play the game as designed? Fine. But, you're stupid to ***** about those that do. ahh, i see the epeen is strong with this one. fackoff dude. the game wasnt made with the intention of pubstomping randoms in proto gear (coughtryhardcough) it was made for planetary conquest (which is sadly half broke). just bc u want to feel all 'leet' and **** doesnt mean u should.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tryhard
it's ok bro, let it out. this is your circle of trust. i so sawwy i keelled yew wit mah big bad gunny gun.
but anyway, how's your PC going? Would you like to purchase a district?
'leet' he says. loled. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
436
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:00:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote: i run militia and basic fits ONLY, as does my corp. most of us CAN use proto, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using proto weapons or suits, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using militia or basic stuff, or if i was in MY proto stuff.
the REAL need to GG is that right there
i run around not hitting things I shoot at ONLY, as does my squad. most of us CAN shoot things, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using aiming and bullets, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using not aiming, or if i was in my AIMING mode? ....Dude. You don't want to play the game as designed? Fine. But, you're stupid to ***** about those that do. ahh, i see the epeen is strong with this one. fackoff dude. the game wasnt made with the intention of pubstomping randoms in proto gear (coughtryhardcough) it was made for planetary conquest (which is sadly half broke). just bc u want to feel all 'leet' and **** doesnt mean u should. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tryhardit's ok bro, let it out. this is your circle of trust. i so sawwy i keelled yew wit mah big bad gunny gun. but anyway, how's your PC going? Would you like to purchase a district? 'leet' he says. loled. dont be a douch. its beneath you |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
436
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:03:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:The honest response is having access to proto gear allows me to challenge myself taking on others in proto gear or killing 4 or 5 dudes in militia gear at once. Makes me feel like God Damn Neo. I get no joy from insta-killing some solo dude in militia gear. It's about flanking by myself and taking on squads - I die a lot - or going full squad against other full proto squad.
The alternative you suggest is that I stop using proto gear. In which case I'd be like that guy I quoted above, trying to go up against skilled players in proto gear who aren't on some altruistic crusade to only headshot newbs with militia gear. There is no realistic expectation that the majority of people with access to proto gear will all of a sudden feel sorry for noobs and drop to militia gear... so why would I put myself in that position?
**** it. In the spirit of Burn Jita... Burn Noobs. Survival of the fittest babe and the faster we can generate enough hate and tears to make CCP implement gear-tiered game modes, the better off we'll all be.
[also... regular ambush sucks. I mostly play Dom if I'm in a squad, just sayin]
Burn noobs, noone needs new players, lets just keep the 3000 we have. That wont get old. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1188
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:07:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote: i run militia and basic fits ONLY, as does my corp. most of us CAN use proto, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using proto weapons or suits, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using militia or basic stuff, or if i was in MY proto stuff.
the REAL need to GG is that right there
i run around not hitting things I shoot at ONLY, as does my squad. most of us CAN shoot things, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using aiming and bullets, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using not aiming, or if i was in my AIMING mode? ....Dude. You don't want to play the game as designed? Fine. But, you're stupid to ***** about those that do. ahh, i see the epeen is strong with this one. fackoff dude. the game wasnt made with the intention of pubstomping randoms in proto gear (coughtryhardcough) it was made for planetary conquest (which is sadly half broke). just bc u want to feel all 'leet' and **** doesnt mean u should. you mad that I stomped you yesterday? I was just chillin with some friends in ill omens. Game was ment to be having fun and I had fun with my buddies. Sorry your not having fun. was that an attempt to troll? if it was, it wasnt up to par. stomped me? i was in militia gear, dude. quite an accomplishment not like that wasnt the point a lot of ppl are trying to make, or anything I am not trolling its just adapt or die. You have guys running around with flaylocks one shotting people. You have guys driving LAVS running everyone over, and you have full squads of good players running proto in matches. If you want to run militia gear and lose the majority of your matches then that's your choice but most smart people are just going to adapt. |
James-5955
Internal Error. League of Infamy
212
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:32:00 -
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If a bunch of players from a clan run proto gear and are very serious and competitive about a pub match against randoms who are no-names in no-name corps, then I laugh at them for acting like they're good for winning if they try to brag about it. If not then I just leave it be because in reality it's just people playing with their friends.
Here's a question for you: If you were grouped with your friends who were good at the game and had the SP to run proto, would you rather play Skirmish or Ambush? Skirmish where you'll likely cap all objectives in under 5 minutes, MAYBE (if you're lucky) the enemy will give a couple of good pushes before quitting, resorting to redline sniping, AFKing in safety, or leaving the match. Those matches are no fun for anybody, except maybe the people who redline snipe in every match regardless.
I like Ambush the most and have no problem running it with skilled players who will make the matches a steamroll. I prefer it over Skirmish any day because I like how there is no redline for the enemy to hide behind, and no MCC for them to AFK in until the match ends, and I can't be sniped from it
CCP needs to get a much better match making system. Hell plus a mode where it's no parties involved, that way you can play when you're friends aren't online without being stuck against a stacked team with clueless randoms. At least with that game mode it'd likely happen a lot less and lead to more balanced matches.
Also I think people make too big of a deal out of others running proto gear. Good players can run it and easily afford to do so, some can easily afford a couple hundred and if you're good enough you can run proto fits without losing isk. I'll usually start every match in a proto suit and go down to advanced if I expect more than 2 deaths.
When I was with PFB for awhile there we would have groups of squads go into matches at the same time in hopes of us being in the same game. You may think it's for ego stroking so we can do 16 vs 16 randoms, but in reality nobody wants/wanted that because it'd be a boring match. The reason was to go against each other so we would have competition. I have no doubt that the group you ran into were doing the same thing but you got unlucky being on the other team when they were all put on one team. Bad luck. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
332
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:46:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote: i run militia and basic fits ONLY, as does my corp. most of us CAN use proto, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using proto weapons or suits, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using militia or basic stuff, or if i was in MY proto stuff.
the REAL need to GG is that right there
i run around not hitting things I shoot at ONLY, as does my squad. most of us CAN shoot things, but choose not to bc, well, nothing is gained from pubs. i cant tell u how many tryhards kill me using aiming and bullets, and i guarantee they wouldnt do the same thing if they were using not aiming, or if i was in my AIMING mode? ....Dude. You don't want to play the game as designed? Fine. But, you're stupid to ***** about those that do. ahh, i see the epeen is strong with this one. fackoff dude. the game wasnt made with the intention of pubstomping randoms in proto gear (coughtryhardcough) it was made for planetary conquest (which is sadly half broke). just bc u want to feel all 'leet' and **** doesnt mean u should. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tryhardit's ok bro, let it out. this is your circle of trust. i so sawwy i keelled yew wit mah big bad gunny gun. but anyway, how's your PC going? Would you like to purchase a district? 'leet' he says. loled. dont be a douch. its beneath you NOW I feel bad. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1302
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:57:00 -
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^ Well said. |
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
438
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:09:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:[EDIT: And since I *DO* feel bad and <3 u Darken, I'd like to note I wasn't trolling a new player on the forums... I was trolling a dude with obvious millions of SP (says he has proto) who refuse to run proto gear and then ***** about those who DO run proto gear and somehow feel morally superior because of it. Beyond that, he called me a tryhard and got the appropriate response . I am an advocate of gear-tiered battlegrounds but am NOT an advocate of downgrading my own gear in order to get stomped myself by all the other guys who will NOT downgrade their gear. I'm a realist.]
hey i love my proto ****, dont get me wrong. I have been running alot of basic and ADV suits to learn about my corp mates playstyles and help them out with fittings.
Proto is overkill for the pub matches. I really dont need it and only don it when i face those guys that got spanked in PC and are proto stomping nowadays. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
518
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:22:00 -
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ISuperstar wrote:You guys are scrubs, try hards, and you can all suck a big one. Hope you feel good stomping a bunch of randoms & newberries with your proto gear and tanks in the most lax game mode in the game.
I can understand though, after getting your asses spanked in Planetary Conquest there's only one thing left for you all to do right, stack 10-16 players on one side and play it like a competitive match.
Especially Seraphim Initiative. Scratch that, Cronos.
nom nom nom Tears!!! Wonderful TEARS. Oh how I missed the sweet, sweet taste of tears. No other game can cause this much rage. We must be doing something right. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:34:00 -
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"If i dont use proto my enemy will use his,so i have to as well" *cries like a ****** |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
34
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:48:00 -
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Nyan Sian (I think it's called) is an extremely competitive elitist corp that I see on ambush not loosing a handful of clones, yet taking out the entire other team with prototype gear... leave the game if you see them in ambush... |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
61
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:58:00 -
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justify it however u want.
the fact remains that too many ppl run proto in pubs. and whether u like it or not, its tryharding.
i choose not to run my proto **** bc a majority of the time, i dont need to, nor do i want to be known as a tryhard. not to mention its great to make dat money.
running 6-10 guys in a game, all with proto **** isnt fun for either side, i wouldnt think.
*thinks* nope, i would hate it if my corp all ran proto gear, redlining noobs and randoms, and not getting any better.
drop the proto **** or stay in merc battles. |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
61
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:59:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:"If i dont use proto my enemy will use his,so i have to as well" *cries like a ******
this is kinda wut im reading too |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
438
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:00:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Nyan Sian (I think it's called) is an extremely competitive elitist corp that I see on ambush not loosing a handful of clones, yet taking out the entire other team with prototype gear... leave the game if you see them in ambush...
Ya leave the blueberries to fight pubstompers by themselves. that ought to retain new players.
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Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
61
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:02:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Nyan Sian (I think it's called) is an extremely competitive elitist corp that I see on ambush not loosing a handful of clones, yet taking out the entire other team with prototype gear... leave the game if you see them in ambush... Ya leave the blueberries to fight pubstompers by themselves. that ought to retain new players.
i LOVE sarcasticball!!! |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
458
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:15:00 -
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Doyle Reese wrote:I was in a match last night against a squad of Outer Heaven and EVERY single one of my deaths (10) were from either Fused Locus Grenade or a Core Flaylock Pistol, I was more amused than upset
but about your topic, it's going to be like this until we get Corp matches again unfortunately
ummm...that's more because they do that ever match imaginable. Their PC matches were tough (at least the first 3) simply because they get like 12 people using the flaylock and fused, and 4 heavies, who also have the flaylock and fused. it's pretty dumb, but a know, some people will do anything to feel better about themselves and raise that e-peen just a bit more. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
439
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:22:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Doyle Reese wrote:I was in a match last night against a squad of Outer Heaven and EVERY single one of my deaths (10) were from either Fused Locus Grenade or a Core Flaylock Pistol, I was more amused than upset
but about your topic, it's going to be like this until we get Corp matches again unfortunately ummm...that's more because they do that ever match imaginable. Their PC matches were tough (at least the first 3) simply because they get like 12 people using the flaylock and fused, and 4 heavies, who also have the flaylock and fused. it's pretty dumb, but a know, some people will do anything to feel better about themselves and raise that e-peen just a bit more.
you get alot of that. they cant strike back at the dudes in PC so they go to pubs and beat up new guys to sooth their bottoms. when i get pub stomped i just smack my wife and kids around, its karma |
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Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
333
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:49:00 -
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K1sm3t H wrote:Alina Heart wrote:I've been playing a few solo ambush matches each morning the last couple of days. I can confirm that each day, in both Ambush and OMS, 12-16 Seraphim Initiative players and What The French are stacked on one side, wearing all Caldari logi, Duvolles and Flaylock. Pubstomping complete blueberries. HAHA funny since you were rolling with double flaylocks and your Corp this afternoon...you know doing the same thing...but I guess it's different since you guys aren't Chronos. or EoN. or whoever
I was running double flaylocks in a standard BPO caldari suit and a dragonfly scout, we had a 4 man squad.
Don't know why you are posting behind an alt trying to pretend that me and my 4 man squad wearing crap gear and having fun is the same as you and your 16 man protobear team running Duvolles and Flaylocks.
It's alright though, I went 15-14 running 20-30K suits that game and I enjoyed costing you all a lot of ISK |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
287
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:34:00 -
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teamwork is OP |
K1sm3t H
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:17:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:K1sm3t H wrote:Alina Heart wrote:I've been playing a few solo ambush matches each morning the last couple of days. I can confirm that each day, in both Ambush and OMS, 12-16 Seraphim Initiative players and What The French are stacked on one side, wearing all Caldari logi, Duvolles and Flaylock. Pubstomping complete blueberries. HAHA funny since you were rolling with double flaylocks and your Corp this afternoon...you know doing the same thing...but I guess it's different since you guys aren't Chronos. or EoN. or whoever I was running double flaylocks in a standard BPO caldari suit and a dragonfly scout, we had a 4 man squad, PUBSTOMPING NOOBBERRIES. Don't know why you are posting behind an alt trying to pretend that me and my 4 man squad wearing crap gear BECAUSE IT MAKES US MORALLY SUPERIOR TO PROTO WEARERS and having fun BECAUSE YOU CAN"T HAVE FUN IN DUST WITH MORE THAN 4 PEOPLE IN A SQUAD is the same as you and your 16 man protobear team running Duvolles and Flaylocks YOU PEOPLE WITH MORE THAN 4 FRIENDS AND CHARACTERS FROM CLOSED BETA CAN GTFO . It's alright though, I went 15-14 STOMPING THOSE SILLY NOOBS WITH MY FLAYLOCKS running 20-30K suits that game and I enjoyed costing you all a lot of ISK
I fixed your post to help people read between the lines to what you were really saying.
BTW This is my main, you can find me way down in the 1.03 KDR area, but just because I'm just an average player who doesn't have the SP to run Proto gear doesn't mean those who have spent the time to reach that point shouldn't run theirs either, whenever they want. If you were grinding SP since beta for proto but could never use what you earned because of the QQ'ers, why play Dust?
People cry "Think of the new player experience, you are driving them away" when they get protostomped, but really it's just "ah boo, that guy sucked and he only beat me cuz his suit was better." Well, that's the point of protogear or even just ADV, help players make up with gear, what they may lack in twitch skill. That's why I play, it beats getting constantly t-bagged in COD, and really the protobears aren't the problem. CCP has systematically failed to give hardcore players something to really dive into and be competitive, instead they focus on fixing things like the female walk animation.
So, do I groan and roll my eyes when I get Core Flaylocked or Duvolle AR'ed from 100m, yes. But they've earned the right to do so, so leave them alone. |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:21:00 -
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ISuperstar wrote:You guys are scrubs, try hards, and you can all suck a big one. Hope you feel good stomping a bunch of randoms & newberries with your proto gear and tanks in the most lax game mode in the game.
I can understand though, after getting your asses spanked in Planetary Conquest there's only one thing left for you all to do right, stack 10-16 players on one side and play it like a competitive match.
Especially Seraphim Initiative. Scratch that, Cronos. Give us matchmaking then you can complain. still I try to play with newer players to help them out (not by pubstomping but by squadding up with those who want help) Still Chill out CRONOS aren't the only pubstompers out there. |
Sollemnis Aelinos
89th Infantry Division
60
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:21:00 -
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gbh08 wrote:funny thing is, you see them corp members without there squad, and they afk instead of playing
thats actually true, a member from internal error was afking in the mcc that one match |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:43:00 -
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It's way more fun to play with people in your corp/alliance. Most of the time I just use standard/advanced gear and still do well.
Has nothing to do with proto gear, just teamwork. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
826
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Posted - 2013.07.15 18:33:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:ISuperstar wrote:You guys are scrubs, try hards, and you can all suck a big one. Hope you feel good stomping a bunch of randoms & newberries with your proto gear and tanks in the most lax game mode in the game.
I can understand though, after getting your asses spanked in Planetary Conquest there's only one thing left for you all to do right, stack 10-16 players on one side and play it like a competitive match.
Especially Seraphim Initiative. Scratch that, Cronos. Erm, what? I've played in numerous pub matches where Dios is 12 man+ stacked squads on the other side. Its a bit pot/kettle for you to be accusing others.
Stacked in Faction Warefare. We don't stack in any other mode. We believe FW is where all corps looking to field 12-16 members on a team should be playing outside of PC.
If you're doing this kind of thing in Ambush, it really hurts the game. Even regular Skirmish or Domination is better than stacking in Ambush. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:28:00 -
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It's is painful to play Reg. ambush games and see them in 4-5mins from stacked teams(record is 3 minutes flat) you dont see it often from the game being too short for most corps to enjoy. I really hope PVE is coming soon for on the very day the pubs will plumet in population making Pub PVP null and void from lack of player count and stacked teams will wonder why no wants to play with them in that part of the sandbox. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1254
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:30:00 -
[89] - Quote
Hey, the stacked teams are just trying to get as much SP as quickly as possible... while stroking their fragile egos. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
332
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Posted - 2013.07.15 19:52:00 -
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Hmm... might as well post my opinion on protobears and protostompers.
Running full proto = trying to maintain a KDR/being carries by their gear.
You can have fun in pub matches by not running full proto . Now... I don't mind facing you protobears and protostompers, I worry more about the new players because of course they are needed to keep this game running. I already have 4 friends quit the game once they are out of the Academy. The only reason I continue to play is because my beta character had 4mil SP and I'm trying to stay up there with the top dogs SP wise...
Again just how I feel, I solo often on this game but I squad up a lot more with my corp mates. I only run ADV because I'm logi and need to help my team out x_x (with a few proto equipment). |
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