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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:41:00 -
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I represent one of many Minmatar sleeper cells that exists within Amarr space. I am personally a Gallente Immigrant and citizen. While the Gallente are supporters of the Minmatar Republic, and like us they recognize the value of freedom, they are not willing to make the hard choices needed to ensure that all peoples share the same basic rights to liberty; the Federation will likely brand us as terrorists, and probably the Republic as well. I cannot say how many of us there are, or exactly where, but we form an underground network that exists for two purposes: Helping slaves find their way out of Amarr space to escape to freedom.
To sabotage and attack the Amarr empire from within.
We are currently planning a coordinated attack in densely populated cities. The goal is to inflict massive casualties. Immortal mercenaries will be given ethnic Amarr clones as disguises during the attack. You will be supplied with stolen scrambler rifles from our sources within the Amarr military. If you have any moral qualms about taking the lives of civilians, just remember that sometimes a few have to be sacrificed so that millions more can have a better life, also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries. |
Inquisitor Pardus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:54:00 -
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All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
317
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:58:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I represent one of many Minmatar sleeper cells that exists within Amarr space. I am personally a Gallente Immigrant and citizen. While the Gallente are supporters of the Minmatar Republic, and like us they recognize the value of freedom, they are not willing to make the hard choices needed to ensure that all peoples share the same basic rights to liberty; the Federation will likely brand us as terrorists, and probably the Republic as well. I cannot say how many of us there are, or exactly where, but we form an underground network that exists for two purposes:
Helping slaves find their way out of Amarr space to escape to freedom.
To sabotage and attack the Amarr empire from within.
We are currently planning a coordinated attack in densely populated cities. The goal is to inflict massive casualties. Immortal mercenaries will be given ethnic Amarr clones as disguises during the attack. You will be supplied with stolen scrambler rifles from our sources within the Amarr military. If you have any moral qualms about taking the lives of civilians, just remember that sometimes a few have to be sacrificed so that millions more can have a better life, also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries.
Traitorous scum after we Amarr tried to place your people on the path to the true Faith this is how you repay us.
"And they stood before Him, bathed in His light. Yet their eyes were blind, Their hearts rebellious, And their minds refused the Lord. Darkness descended upon them, Spreading inside their minds, And the flames of the Lord died within them. Yet one flame remained, And within this flame, the Lord found faith renewed. Casting the others into obscurity, The Lord turned to the one" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First 1:3
You cast aside God's vision for a unified people, misunderstanding us as we strove to uplift you from squalor, from ignorance, from your fear of the unknown. You are those who looked upon him and turned away. While the Matari peoples still have a chance for redemption and reclamation you do not.
However you lack understand of the Amarrian people if you think this abominable act will stay our hands for exacting a righteous vengeance upon you and your kind, nay the sons and daugthers of the true amarrian people, the khanid, the Ni Kunni, and the Ammatar peoples you plan to victimise are not so blind as to rise to your bait.
To those blessed with mortality death is but a means to enter God's promised land for the faithful, and there they shall know no suffering, no fear, and no hate.
To all Amarrians true of heart and just in purpose remember the scriptures for in these dark times only the words of our prophets and our adamantine faith shall remain in our hearts after these terrible atrocities.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45
And so to protect the faithful of our great empire we send forth our chosen, our angels of vengeance to smite the terrorists with God's holy wrath, to end your plots and treasons before they begin, and to smother the false words of the snakes.
Try as you might you shall not break our empire, or our faith.
"The word of the Lord is pure, It is a shield for the faithful, Brought unto men by the Angels, As a guiding light in the darkness " - The Scriptures, Prophet Anoyia 8:15 |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:00:00 -
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Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the State is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
317
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak.
As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace.
Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live.
On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided. |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:09:00 -
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I am The-Errorist AKA T. Errorist and I'm offering explosives for the attack. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
158
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:12:00 -
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Brother Kagehoshi, put aside your personal vendetta and think about what you are about to commit. You cannot achieve freedom through manslaughter. You cannot earn trust among men when you are willing to sacrifice innocent men, women, and children for if you are commit such wicked crimes in the name of evil, what more are you capable of?
While I agree with the bulk of what Brother Adamance has had to say, I do not believe you are a lost cause. Come to me brother, come to us. Seek the Truth and you tall shall be saved! |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace. Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live. On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided.
Faith is no substitute for reason in an argument, in fact it is precisely your faith that makes words lead to nowhere. We do what we must to survive as free people, and it was you who push us to violence; had there been other ways to gain our freedom we would take it.
You brought this upon yourselves, when the corpses of your children litter streets, know that it will be on your hands. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:17:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:I am The-Errorist AKA T. Errorist and I'm offering explosives for the attack. Your skills will be very useful |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
158
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:18:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the State is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. You want your proof for this "magical man in the sky"? Take a look at our society, then take a look in a mirror. Yes, slavery is a part of Amarr culture. But tell me, who is the one uniting people in peace and who is the one planning to litter the streets with the corpses of young boys and girls? |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:20:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace. Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live. On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided. Faith is no substitute for reason in an argument, in fact it is precisely your faith that makes words lead to nowhere. We do what we must to survive as free people, and it was you who push us to violence; had there been other ways to gain our freedom we would take it. You brought this upon yourselves, when the corpses of your children litter streets, know that it will be on your hands.
And what reason lies in slaughter? You planned actions contradict your words.
Hate is a powerful motivation but it leads to destruction. What sane Matari would praise your actions when you drive us to commit similar acts. Our wars in Devoid and the Bleaks are there for a reason, to keep the civilians out of harms way.
Devout to the Scriptures I may be but soldier I am to the core, and ready to defend my people.
Your dark words herald dark deeds, woe unto you and your followers who seek unjust conflict. |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:21:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The-Errorist wrote:I am The-Errorist AKA T. Errorist and I'm offering explosives for the attack. Your skills will be very useful Meet me at the location we discussed earlier to start the transfer goods. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:24:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the State is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. You want your proof for this "magical man in the sky"? Take a look at our society, then take a look in a mirror. Yes, slavery is a part of Amarr culture. But tell me, who is the one uniting people in peace and who is the one planning to litter the streets with the corpses of young boys and girls?
You had your chance to avoid bloodshed. Peace is not worth it if it means living as a slave. Societal constructs =/= proof of God. Where was your God when the Jove completely embarrassed you without even breaking a sweat? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace. Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live. On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided. Faith is no substitute for reason in an argument, in fact it is precisely your faith that makes words lead to nowhere. We do what we must to survive as free people, and it was you who push us to violence; had there been other ways to gain our freedom we would take it. You brought this upon yourselves, when the corpses of your children litter streets, know that it will be on your hands. And what reason lies in slaughter? You planned actions contradict your words. Hate is a powerful motivation but it leads to destruction. What sane Matari would praise your actions when you drive us to commit similar acts. Our wars in Devoid and the Bleaks are there for a reason, to keep the civilians out of harms way. Devout to the Scriptures I may be but soldier I am to the core, and ready to defend my people. Your dark words herald dark deeds, woe unto you and your followers who seek unjust conflict.
Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while your people to cope with what has happened, my brothers and sisters will flee to pre-selected location to be transported. My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:35:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:[] You had your chance to avoid bloodshed. Peace is not worth it if it means living as a slave. Societal constructs =/= proof of God. Where was your God when the Jove completely embarrassed you without even breaking a sweat?
Time as a slave is only a necessary part of ones earthly toil that one must overcome before he or she can be welcomed into God's arms.
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
As one who was not there I would not make claims about the Jovians strength, our people were the mightiest military of the time and the Jovians defeated us, if at that time you could not have bested us how easily would they have embarrassed you?
Such statement are however without context in this discussion. My purpose here is merely to dissuade you from engaging the citizens of our empire in the wars of soldiers. In regards to this incident I fear Concord would have to choice but to intervene as this directly contravenes the terms of our agreement to engaging in military actions in low security space. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
998
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:38:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
...taking the lives of civilians...5 million ISK for one successful attack...
We are looking for more interested mercenaries.
You had me at hello. |
The-Errorist
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:[] You had your chance to avoid bloodshed. Peace is not worth it if it means living as a slave. Societal constructs =/= proof of God. Where was your God when the Jove completely embarrassed you without even breaking a sweat? Time as a slave is only a necessary part of ones earthly toil that one must overcome before he or she can be welcomed into God's arms. "Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5 As one who was not there I would not make claims about the Jovians strength, our people were the mightiest military of the time and the Jovians defeated us, if at that time you could not have bested us how easily would they have embarrassed you? Such statement are however without context in this discussion. My purpose here is merely to dissuade you from engaging the citizens of our empire in the wars of soldiers. In regards to this incident I fear Concord would have to choice but to intervene as this directly contravenes the terms of our agreement to engaging in military actions in low security space. Screw Concord, we're about to kill a bunch of civilians, you think we give a crap about Concord? We can inhabit ANY clone, look like anyone we want, if we get caught we can suicide and be reborn in a new body. Concord is irrelevant. Also the Minmatar never claimed to have God on their side, yet you Amarr do all the time and yet you got beaten by the Jove. Either your God isn't real, or he doesn't care about you. You talk about hardships, yet you live comfortably in your gold cities and let others suffer the hardships for you. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
158
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:55:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the State is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. You want your proof for this "magical man in the sky"? Take a look at our society, then take a look in a mirror. Yes, slavery is a part of Amarr culture. But tell me, who is the one uniting people in peace and who is the one planning to litter the streets with the corpses of young boys and girls? You had your chance to avoid bloodshed. Peace is not worth it if it means living as a slave. Societal constructs =/= proof of God. Where was your God when the Jove completely embarrassed you without even breaking a sweat? Peace is not worth it if it must come from the blood of the innocent.
Brother, let's make one thing clear: you will fail. CONCORD will not allow your actions, neither will the Federation nor the Republic. Once you initiate your plan, you will have no allies. What I am offering you is a chance at redemption. If you do not take it, you will be dispatched to a band of Avenging Angels.
The choice is yours, that freedom we do grant to you. |
Inquisitor Pardus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:56:00 -
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You do realize that I am an Amarrian right. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
158
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:00:00 -
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Inquisitor Pardus wrote:You do realize that I am an Amarrian right. ((OOC. It says you are apart of the Amarr Templars corporation and Amarr Empire alliance. These are NPC corporations, this is no way to gain access to these unless you have selected Amarr as your race. How is it then that your avatar shows the marks of Caldari? Have you tried logging out and logging back it to see if that fixes anything, or is there something I don't know? Apologies for the out of character)) |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4716
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:02:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the State is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. You want your proof for this "magical man in the sky"? Take a look at our society, then take a look in a mirror. Yes, slavery is a part of Amarr culture. But tell me, who is the one uniting people in peace and who is the one planning to litter the streets with the corpses of young boys and girls? You had your chance to avoid bloodshed. Peace is not worth it if it means living as a slave. Societal constructs =/= proof of God. Where was your God when the Jove completely embarrassed you without even breaking a sweat? Peace is not worth it if it must come from the blood of the innocent. Brother, let's make one thing clear: you will fail. CONCORD will not allow your actions, neither will the Federation nor the Republic. Once you initiate your plan, you will have no allies. What I am offering you is a chance at redemption. If you do not take it, you will be dispatched to a band of Avenging Angels. The choice is yours, that freedom we do grant to you.
CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:13:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death.
So you say the it will be up to use Templars to stop you where you strike.
As you say we Templars may make use of similar tactics we can be anyone, anywhere, especially in Amarrian Space.
I am warning the upper Echelon of the Praetoriate as well speak of your claims, their influence is strong in Amarr space your goals will not be easy to achieve. Concord will also be notified of such claims and an appeal for aid against your cell will be filed. As well I have taken the steps to approach allied loyalist corporations to provide security services for the foreseeable future.
This is the true terror of uncontrolled Immortal Clones, such unrestrained tendencies for violence and hate, such will to complete acts of unspeakable evil, and all for one persons own cause.....
We Amarrian will do as well have always done
"Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
252
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:13:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries. I will be there. For free |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1001
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:22:00 -
[24] - Quote
less pontificating, more target lists.
You said 5 mil ISK for shooting fish in a barrel. Because you made a public announcement it means I'll also get to shoot would-be heroes in the face. This keeps getting better and better. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
159
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:28:00 -
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((sorry, out of character again. It would be great if we could settle disputes like this through in-game battles. I made a topic on it in the Feedback/Request section of the forums, please check it out!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1022871#post1022871 )) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:29:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:less pontificating, more target lists.
You said 5 mil ISK for shooting fish in a barrel. Because you made a public announcement it means I'll also get to shoot would-be heroes in the face. This keeps getting better and better. Then I have said my peace.
You have forsaken your empires, your original goals, your very people, and your honour in this pursuit, be prepared to be pursued by the Templars until God call his faithful to the promised land, then you shall know how wrong you were. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1001
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:less pontificating, more target lists.
You said 5 mil ISK for shooting fish in a barrel. Because you made a public announcement it means I'll also get to shoot would-be heroes in the face. This keeps getting better and better. Then I have said my peace. You have forsaken your empires, your original goals, your very people, and your honour in this pursuit, be prepared to be pursued by the Templars until God call his faithful to the promised land, then you shall know how wrong you were.
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Inquisitor Pardus
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:42:00 -
[28] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote: ((OOC. It says you are apart of the Amarr Templars corporation and Amarr Empire alliance. These are NPC corporations, this is no way to gain access to these unless you have selected Amarr as your race. How is it then that your avatar shows the marks of Caldari? Have you tried logging out and logging back it to see if that fixes anything, or is there something I don't know? Apologies for the out of character))
((OOC: Having two character on the same account means that the first character created is the Avatar you are stuck with)) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
160
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:50:00 -
[29] - Quote
Inquisitor Pardus wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: ((OOC. It says you are apart of the Amarr Templars corporation and Amarr Empire alliance. These are NPC corporations, this is no way to gain access to these unless you have selected Amarr as your race. How is it then that your avatar shows the marks of Caldari? Have you tried logging out and logging back it to see if that fixes anything, or is there something I don't know? Apologies for the out of character))
((OOC: Having two character on the same account means that the first character created is the Avatar you are stuck with)) ((If that were the case, then how come my first character is Caldari and Yassavi is my second, yet I have the Amarr image? And for the record I keep my Caldari character because he has skills in dropships, though we all know the laugh that is. I would try logging in and our of the forums. CCP, we really need Private Messages so we can avoid this OOC)) |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:33:00 -
[30] - Quote
There is a question whether our pseudo-immortality will cause us to value the lives of those who do not share it more, or less. This plan, and the apparent ease with which it has found cooperative soldiers from among our ranks, begins to suggest an answer.
It was only a matter of time before someone noticed that the most obvious use of a soldier who can die again and again is to make a tool, a weapon, out of death. However, this plan will strike neither at those in power, nor at the Holders themselves. Most of what you will accomplish in this is to stain your hands and darken our future as clone soldiers.
It is a pity. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
324
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:35:00 -
[31] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:There is a question whether our pseudo-immortality will cause us to value the lives of those who do not share it more, or less. This plan, and the apparent ease with which it has found cooperative soldiers from among our ranks, begins to suggest an answer.
It was only a matter of time before someone noticed that the most obvious use of a soldier who can die again and again is to make a tool, a weapon, out of death. However, this plan will strike neither at those in power, nor at the Holders themselves. Most of what you will accomplish in this is to stain your hands and darken our future as clone soldiers.
It is a pity. As we have said it is so, these actions will not harm the soldiers who fight our wars, nor the Holders who direct our people. All they so is stain the hands of the wicked and condemn those aggressors to hell. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
324
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:58:00 -
[32] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:IEDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months. All slaves must be dosed with the antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me.
You have made many assumptions in your statement, many of which are matari fallacies.
You cannot and will not get away with this, the Amarr shall not let you, we cannot be intimidated, we cannot be broken.
Our creed means we must pursue the conversion of Matari slaves for their own good. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4728
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:03:00 -
[33] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:IEDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months. All slaves must be dosed with the antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me. You have made many assumptions in your statement, many of which are matari fallacies. You cannot and will not get away with this, the Amarr shall not let you, we cannot be intimidated, we cannot be broken. Our creed means we must pursue the conversion of Matari slaves for their own good. Even at the cost of the lives of your own innocent civilians? I want to see how well that creed holds up when you watch your children get gunned down. You can cooperate, or you can be exterminated; either way I will do what I must for my people, something your people cannot understand because of your creed. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
328
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:11:00 -
[34] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:IEDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months. All slaves must be dosed with the antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me. You have made many assumptions in your statement, many of which are matari fallacies. You cannot and will not get away with this, the Amarr shall not let you, we cannot be intimidated, we cannot be broken. Our creed means we must pursue the conversion of Matari slaves for their own good. Even at the cost of the lives of your own innocent civilians? I want to see how well that creed holds up when you watch your children get gunned down. You can cooperate, or you can be exterminated; either way I will do what I must for my people, something your people cannot understand because of your creed. The chance to cooperate was for your benefit so unnecessary bloodshed could be avoided.
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4728
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:12:00 -
[35] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death.
So you say the it will be up to use Templars to stop you where you strike. As you say we Templars may make use of similar tactics we can be anyone, anywhere, especially in Amarrian Space. I am warning the upper Echelon of the Praetoriate as well speak of your claims, their influence is strong in Amarr space your goals will not be easy to achieve. Concord will also be notified of such claims and an appeal for aid against your cell will be filed. As well I have taken the steps to approach allied loyalist corporations to provide security services for the foreseeable future. This is the true terror of uncontrolled Immortal Clones, such unrestrained tendencies for violence and hate, such will to complete acts of unspeakable evil, and all for one persons own cause..... We Amarrian will do as well have always done "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21
Lol, even after the empress treated your kind like an unfortunate mistake to be swept under the rug, and had your kind hunted down like animals, you still will fight for your empire? No matter, we have you outnumbered, and the ISK prize to attract the very best the cluster has to offer. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
178
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:15:00 -
[36] - Quote
Kagehoshi, spin it as you may it is you who make the decision to murder the innocent, not us.
Before you initiate your plan of attack, please consider this. Throughout the millenniums the Amarr Empire has discovered races and fed, protected, and saved them. None of them put up great resistance, and all of them have since joined us in blissful peace as children of God. The Matari were no different and were well on their way, but during our weakest moment when we had our backs turned the Gallente fed your with their lies. Can't you see? You are but a pawn to them. They do not love you as we did. Gene Broteau, a citizen of the Federation, recently mass fired on a Matari festival killing 59, including Chief Karin Midular, and injuring countless others. They cover it up with their lies, but these feelings are common throughout the Federation. Once they are done using you as their tools they will dispatch of you. All we ever offered you was peace and salvation. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4728
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:23:00 -
[37] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:Kagehoshi, spin it as you may it is you who make the decision to murder the innocent, not us.
Before you initiate your plan of attack, please consider this. Throughout the millenniums the Amarr Empire has discovered races and fed, protected, and saved them. None of them put up great resistance, and all of them have since joined us in blissful peace as children of God. The Matari were no different and were well on their way, but during our weakest moment when we had our backs turned the Gallente fed your with their lies. Can't you see? You are but a pawn to them. They do not love you as we did. Gene Broteau, a citizen of the federation, recently mass fired on a Matari festival killing 59, including Chief Karin Midular, and injuring countless others. They cover it up with their lies, but these feelings are common throughout the Federation. Once they are done using you as their tools they will dispatch of you. All we ever offered you was peace and salvation.
Right... because one crazy Gallente guy killing 59 of my people is far worse than your people forcing BILLIONS into slavery. I don't think so
We don't need the Gallente to succeed, and we certainly didn't need them to tell us that slavery is actually a big no-no. You literally poisoned us to keep us in check, and yet you speak of saving and protecting? You should consider a career in comedy, but maybe your moronic holy book has some silly rules against that.
With the first strike the blood will be on my hands, but each successive strike following the first will stain yours for your refusal to take the chance to save your people. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4728
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:31:00 -
[38] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you.
Just takes one clone for one of us to instantly transfer into to cause a massive disaster, and our agents already on your soil know how to manufacture the sleeper implant. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
334
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 00:40:00 -
[39] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you.
Just takes one clone for one of us to instantly transfer into to cause a massive disaster, and our agents already on your soil know how to manufacture the sleeper implant.
((.....Sorry for the out of character.... but seriously? they do.......))
Then tracking the import and export information of components used in the creation of such implants is where we would start, followed by any medical equipment or institutions that can implant such technology into cloned soldiers, which within the empire are more than likely under the scrutiny of the Theological Council and Council of Internal Order.
At that point locating individuals from suspected cells such as yours would be incredibly easy.
Byond that I am sure that such clones would have to be deployed from mobile CRU systems which would also be easily tracked by appealing for the release of TACNET data on civilian turf. Even should such an appeal be denied we can actively have rapid response teams on standy by around the clock and encourage civilians to avoid public places until your cell is eradicated.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
193
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:52:00 -
[40] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:We don't need the Gallente to succeed Well, considering you are a Gallente immigrant yourself . . .
Also do you not realize that our slaves will not want to be freed. What happens when many tell you they wish to stay, will you force them to leave? What happened to your freedom if so? Are you not aware Empress Jamyl I recently freed many slaves and many continued to carry forth their faith, what would you say to them?
You think you are clever with your plan but do you honestly think you are the first to use clone technology for your own personal vendetta? Let me make myself clear once more: You will fail. |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4736
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you.
Just takes one clone for one of us to instantly transfer into to cause a massive disaster, and our agents already on your soil know how to manufacture the sleeper implant. ((.....Sorry for the out of character.... but seriously? they do.......)) Then tracking the import and export information of components used in the creation of such implants is where we would start, followed by any medical equipment or institutions that can implant such technology into cloned soldiers, which within the empire are more than likely under the scrutiny of the Theological Council and Council of Internal Order. At that point locating individuals from suspected cells such as yours would be incredibly easy. Byond that I am sure that such clones would have to be deployed from mobile CRU systems which would also be easily tracked by appealing for the release of TACNET data on civilian turf. Even should such an appeal be denied we can actively have rapid response teams on standy by around the clock and encourage civilians to avoid public places until your cell is eradicated.
(( Well merc clones are mass produced, not unfeasible that a corporate spy in Genolution could leak the krabby patty secret formula ))
Information transfers can be done with stolen communication devices in encrypted messages disguised to look like harmless conversation; that means you'll have to sort through billions upon billions of communications, and still never find what you're looking for. Parts needed can be stolen, or made from parts of stolen seemingly harmless unrelated items. A makeshift CRU would only have to be online for a few seconds, and quickly abandoned and destroyed once the merc has spawned, and the merc could be transported to an entirely different region on the planet through a transportation service, making the activation location almost useless for determining attack location. We could attack an entire towns and quietly execcute everyone while they sleep, and move to the next town to do the same before anyone realizes what happens. Your measures will never be enough, we will find ways around each of them. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4736
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:02:00 -
[42] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:We don't need the Gallente to succeed Well, considering you are a Gallente immigrant yourself . . . Also do you not realize that our slaves will not want to be freed. What happens when many tell you they wish to stay, will you force them to leave? What happened to your freedom if so? Are you not aware Empress Jamyl I recently freed many slaves and many continued to carry forth their faith, what would you say to them? You think you are clever with your plan but do you honestly think you are the first to use clone technology for your own personal vendetta? Let me make myself clear once more: You will fail. Stockholm syndrome does not absolve a kidnapper nor a slaver. My immigration was a matter of preference, not need; I like the liberal sexy times in the orgy pit. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
341
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:04:00 -
[43] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you.
Just takes one clone for one of us to instantly transfer into to cause a massive disaster, and our agents already on your soil know how to manufacture the sleeper implant. ((.....Sorry for the out of character.... but seriously? they do.......)) Then tracking the import and export information of components used in the creation of such implants is where we would start, followed by any medical equipment or institutions that can implant such technology into cloned soldiers, which within the empire are more than likely under the scrutiny of the Theological Council and Council of Internal Order. At that point locating individuals from suspected cells such as yours would be incredibly easy. Byond that I am sure that such clones would have to be deployed from mobile CRU systems which would also be easily tracked by appealing for the release of TACNET data on civilian turf. Even should such an appeal be denied we can actively have rapid response teams on standy by around the clock and encourage civilians to avoid public places until your cell is eradicated. (( Well merc clones are mass produced, not unfeasible that a corporate spy in Genolution could leak the krabby patty secret formula )) Information transfers can be done with stolen communication devices in encrypted messages disguised to look like harmless conversation; that means you'll have to sort through billions upon billions of communications, and still never find what you're looking for. Parts needed can be stolen, or made from parts of stolen seemingly harmless unrelated items. A makeshift CRU would only have to be online for a few seconds, and quickly abandoned and destroyed once the merc has spawned, and the merc could be transported to an entirely different region on the planet through a transportation service, making the activation location almost useless for determining attack location. We could attack an entire towns and quietly execcute everyone while they sleep, and move to the next town to do the same before anyone realizes what happens. Your measures will never be enough, we will find ways around each of them.
(( I genuinely don't think Genolution knowing what a monopoly they hold over cloned soldier would ever suffer from corporate spies at that kind of level, infact they themselves would likely hire mercs to take out spied and cells doing all of this sabotage.... IM just saying.... you also have to assume the same thing can be done by theour guys as well, wherever we detect combat we could deploy clone in seconds in greater number and with more fire power)) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
200
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:We don't need the Gallente to succeed Well, considering you are a Gallente immigrant yourself . . . Also do you not realize that our slaves will not want to be freed. What happens when many tell you they wish to stay, will you force them to leave? What happened to your freedom if so? Are you not aware Empress Jamyl I recently freed many slaves and many continued to carry forth their faith, what would you say to them? You think you are clever with your plan but do you honestly think you are the first to use clone technology for your own personal vendetta? Let me make myself clear once more: You will fail. Stockholm syndrome does not absolve a kidnapper nor a slaver. My immigration was a matter of preference, not need; I like the liberal sexy times in the orgy pit. Who is Stockholm? And what is that syndrome? ((Remember most Earthly references and terms have long been forgotten)) |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4736
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:
It would be impossible for such an attack to occur on Amarrian soil, however it is also true that you could be the one to avoid the bloodshed that you plan to instigate, such actions will only soil the Minmatar posturing of being victimised.
The faith will hold I assure you that, and the attack shall fail. this to I assure you.
Just takes one clone for one of us to instantly transfer into to cause a massive disaster, and our agents already on your soil know how to manufacture the sleeper implant. ((.....Sorry for the out of character.... but seriously? they do.......)) Then tracking the import and export information of components used in the creation of such implants is where we would start, followed by any medical equipment or institutions that can implant such technology into cloned soldiers, which within the empire are more than likely under the scrutiny of the Theological Council and Council of Internal Order. At that point locating individuals from suspected cells such as yours would be incredibly easy. Byond that I am sure that such clones would have to be deployed from mobile CRU systems which would also be easily tracked by appealing for the release of TACNET data on civilian turf. Even should such an appeal be denied we can actively have rapid response teams on standy by around the clock and encourage civilians to avoid public places until your cell is eradicated. (( Well merc clones are mass produced, not unfeasible that a corporate spy in Genolution could leak the krabby patty secret formula )) Information transfers can be done with stolen communication devices in encrypted messages disguised to look like harmless conversation; that means you'll have to sort through billions upon billions of communications, and still never find what you're looking for. Parts needed can be stolen, or made from parts of stolen seemingly harmless unrelated items. A makeshift CRU would only have to be online for a few seconds, and quickly abandoned and destroyed once the merc has spawned, and the merc could be transported to an entirely different region on the planet through a transportation service, making the activation location almost useless for determining attack location. We could attack an entire towns and quietly execcute everyone while they sleep, and move to the next town to do the same before anyone realizes what happens. Your measures will never be enough, we will find ways around each of them. (( I genuinely don't think Genolution knowing what a monopoly they hold over cloned soldier would ever suffer from corporate spies at that kind of level, infact they themselves would likely hire mercs to take out spied and cells doing all of this sabotage.... IM just saying.... you also have to assume the same thing can be done by theour guys as well, wherever we detect combat we could deploy clone in seconds in greater number and with more fire power))
(( Player corporations produce clones on their districts, so Genolution can't be the only ones, and player corporations are full of spies, AWOXers, and unhappy directors who could leak the info ))
It doesn't matter if you kill each clone, they can still cause lots of damage before being terminated. You can't stop every attack in time. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4736
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:11:00 -
[46] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:We don't need the Gallente to succeed Well, considering you are a Gallente immigrant yourself . . . Also do you not realize that our slaves will not want to be freed. What happens when many tell you they wish to stay, will you force them to leave? What happened to your freedom if so? Are you not aware Empress Jamyl I recently freed many slaves and many continued to carry forth their faith, what would you say to them? You think you are clever with your plan but do you honestly think you are the first to use clone technology for your own personal vendetta? Let me make myself clear once more: You will fail. Stockholm syndrome does not absolve a kidnapper nor a slaver. My immigration was a matter of preference, not need; I like the liberal sexy times in the orgy pit. Who is Stockholm? And what is that syndrome? ((Remember most Earthly references and terms have long been forgotten))
(( oops, will edit )) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
343
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:21:00 -
[47] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: (( Player corporations produce clones on their districts, so Genolution can't be the only ones, and player corporations are full of spies, AWOXers, and unhappy directors who could leak the info ))
It doesn't matter if you kill each clone, they can still cause lots of damage before being terminated. You can't stop every attack in time.
(( Good Call now back into character I go))
While it is true we cannot stop all of this blood shed we will stop it where we can, and protect as many of our citizens as possible. |
Lord Falek Grange
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:49:00 -
[48] - Quote
I'm going to feed you your children. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
349
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
Lord Falek Grange wrote:I'm going to feed you your children.
Falek while I understand you zeal in this matter we must retain our non aggressive stand point, this man is obviously mad, driven so by his implants or his own fiendish ambitions.
They may threaten us all they like, but we chosen few who subscribe to God's teaching know that there is nothing to fear from the unenlightened, |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
210
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:52:00 -
[50] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Lord Falek Grange wrote:I'm going to feed you your children. Falek while I understand you zeal in this matter we must retain our non aggressive stand point, this man is obviously mad, driven so by his implants or his own fiendish ambitions. They may threaten us all they like, but we chosen few who subscribe to God's teaching know that there is nothing to fear from the unenlightened, And should our defenses fail, which they won't, our civilians will stand strong as they gasp their last breath.
"Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed The cascade of evil, the torrents of war. Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure." - The Scriptures, Book II, Revelations 2:12 |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
363
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:56:00 -
[51] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lord Falek Grange wrote:I'm going to feed you your children. Falek while I understand you zeal in this matter we must retain our non aggressive stand point, this man is obviously mad, driven so by his implants or his own fiendish ambitions. They may threaten us all they like, but we chosen few who subscribe to God's teaching know that there is nothing to fear from the unenlightened, And should our defenses fail, which they won't, our civilians will stand strong as they gasp their last breath. "Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed The cascade of evil, the torrents of war. Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure." - The Scriptures, Book II, Revelations 2:12 It shall be so.
Though I feel in such times as these the words of Prophetess Anoyia will better serve us
"The word of the Lord is pure, It is a shield for the faithful, Brought unto men by the Angels, As a guiding light in the darkness "
We shall be that guiding light to our people, protecting them from the wolves of the fields, and raising them up to their promised heavens. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
211
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:01:00 -
[52] - Quote
It is truly a sign of the miracles around us that our people love our "slaves" so much that they are willing to give their own life to protect them from the false words of the wicked. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1017
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:02:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lord Falek Grange wrote:I'm going to feed you your children.
I don't have children. I'll eat yours instead, while I feed your slaves the Vitoc antidote.
Not because I really give a rat's ass about nobility and ending slavery and all of that.
But because i will get to shoot your friends, and hear you scream.
Mostly because I want to hear someone scream. Tomorrow, the amarran holders, perhaps the Next day I'll get to butcher the fools who carry Dreddit's diaper wipes for them. Maybe the next day I'll have fun destroying a Lai Dai facility.
But at the end of the day, ISK and the knowledge that I have ruined someone's day helps me sleep soundly at night. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
364
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:05:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Lord Falek Grange wrote:I'm going to feed you your children. I don't have children. I'll eat yours instead, while I feed your slaves the Vitoc antidote. Not because I really give a rat's ass about nobility and ending slavery and all of that. But because i will get to shoot your friends, and hear you scream. Mostly because I want to hear someone scream. Tomorrow, the amarran holders, perhaps the Next day I'll get to butcher the fools who carry Dreddit's diaper wipes for them. Maybe the next day I'll have fun destroying a Lai Dai facility. But at the end of the day, ISK and the knowledge that I have ruined someone's day helps me sleep soundly at night. (( Can I pay you to ruin someone elses day I'd kind of like that)) |
Kiro Justice
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
287
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
Understand this. Should any of you choose to stand against, or strike at the Amarr in anyway I will make it my personal goal to bring down the vengeance of the faith upon you. Until then however I too shall stand beside my brothers and offer you the hand of salvation and repentance. Join us. Join the faith. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
364
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:07:00 -
[56] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:It is truly a sign of the miracles around us that our people love our "slaves" so much that they are willing to give their own life to protect them from the false words of the wicked. How true brother.
We cannot let these lost souls be lead astray by misguided Gallentean influencing of Matari politics, we must save them and all their kind, only then will we be able to live in peace as allies and children of the Lord. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
364
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Posted - 2013.07.08 04:08:00 -
[57] - Quote
Kiro Justice wrote:Understand this. Should any of you choose to stand against, or strike at the Amarr in anyway I will make it my personal goal to bring down the vengeance of the faith upon you. Until then however I too shall stand beside my brothers and offer you the hand of salvation and repentance. Join us. Join the faith. Thank you Kiro you are a true friend to the Empire and you have my respect. I look to your example on the battlefield. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University Ivy League
38
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
I shall lend you my stealth and trap expertise for the attack, I Live up to my name the strike will guaranteed be fast and unpredictable. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
408
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:39:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:I shall lend you my stealth and trap expertise for the attack, I Live up to my name the strike will guaranteed be fast and unpredictable.
Regardless of you participation command feels such threats are empty, such a terrorist who pre-emptively announce his targets to his foes in not one with serious motive, nor does the Theology Council feel the need to address such pathetic arguments of such a contradictory, self-righteous, and nonsensical nature.
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
25
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
A few random casualties aren't of over-much concern in a setting where violence by terrorist actors, be they Matari, Sansha, or Sani Sabik, is common, where the dead are believed to ascend into the domain of the divine, and where public opinion elects ... no one.
I have read your "update." It changes nothing. The Amarr are too accustomed to random, or not so random, acts of violence for the limited attacks of which you are capable to shake their security apparatus.
It looks like you're basically picking a fight with the defenders of the realm, soldiers, and staining us with infamy. Other effects of your criminal acts are likely to be minimal.
Do you actually want us all to be looked at like capsuleers, rich and inhuman? |
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ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
426
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Let the space monkeys come!
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
494
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Posted - 2013.07.10 00:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
ReGnYuM wrote:Let the space monkeys come!
Let them try |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:04:00 -
[63] - Quote
As you "free" our people from lives plagued be decisions, we'll continue freeing your souls to become one with you hoax, or "god" as you call it. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
44
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Posted - 2013.07.10 02:22:00 -
[64] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:As you "free" our people from lives plagued be decisions, we'll continue freeing your souls to become one with you hoax, or "god" as you call it.
Which are you talking to, freedom fighter?
The clone soldiers, whose souls either are free already or will be very difficult to free? The Amarrian authorities, of whom you might eventually kill a couple if you're skilled and lucky? The Amarrian Holders, who are of such rank as to be trusted by their society with the ownership of slaves?
Or, would that be the non-slave holding Amarrian common folk-- artisans, farmers, teachers-- Mr. "Horned Wolf" offers to slaughter?
If it is the last, you will have to speak louder. Few of them can access this forum to even receive your message. |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.10 02:30:00 -
[65] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:As you "free" our people from lives plagued be decisions, we'll continue freeing your souls to become one with you hoax, or "god" as you call it. Which are you talking to, freedom fighter? The clone soldiers, whose souls either are free already or will be very difficult to free? The Amarrian authorities, of whom you might eventually kill a couple if you're skilled and lucky? The Amarrian Holders, who are of such rank as to be trusted by their society with the ownership of slaves? Or, would that be the non-slave holding Amarrian common folk-- artisans, farmers, teachers-- Mr. "Horned Wolf" offers to slaughter? If it is the last, you will have to speak louder. Few of them can access this forum to even receive your message. They are as innocent as the people you've stolen from us, you forget that it was the amarr that committed the first hostile actions towards civilians, not us. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
44
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Posted - 2013.07.10 02:50:00 -
[66] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:They are as innocent as the people you've stolen from us, you forget that it was the amarr that committed the first hostile actions towards civilians, not us.
Soldier, being as I'm an Achur, my people have stolen no one that I'm aware of. And yes, the Amarr have a bit of a history-- but then, so do the Gallente. The Amarr conquered the Matari over a thousand years ago. This most recent war is not of Amarrian making-- but it is the product of a long-running Matari scheme to divert aid from the Gallente Federation to construct an invasion fleet.
Also, if the Amarr are that wicked, are you so sure you want to reach for their level of moral behavior? |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:01:00 -
[67] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:They are as innocent as the people you've stolen from us, you forget that it was the amarr that committed the first hostile actions towards civilians, not us. Soldier, being as I'm an Achur, my people have stolen no one that I'm aware of. And yes, the Amarr have a bit of a history-- but then, so do the Gallente. The Amarr conquered the Matari over a thousand years ago. This most recent war is not of Amarrian making-- but it is the product of a long-running Matari scheme to divert aid from the Gallente Federation to construct an invasion fleet. Also, if the Amarr are that wicked, are you so sure you want to reach for their level of moral behavior? Even though it started long ago, the amarr people still have a large segment of our population enslaved. If we have to sink into the mud with the empire so our people can be freed, then so be it, it's a necessary evil. However I don't see what the amarr/minmatar war has to do with the federation, please elaborate? |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
45
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:27:00 -
[68] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:Even though it started long ago, the amarr people still have a large segment of our population enslaved. If we have to sink into the mud with the empire so our people can be freed, then so be it, it's a necessary evil. However I don't see what the amarr/minmatar war has to do with the federation, please elaborate?
They do have a sizeable percentage still enslaved, yes-- most of whom, if the recent release of many of them by order of the empress is any guide, are now faithful Amarr believers. The Amarr are not the only slavemasters in New Eden, nor the cruelest, but I do give them credit for being some of the most ... well, persuasive. Several generations of theological study and menial labor will break down most cultures very effectively.
All of that said, their methods are nothing to those of the Sansha.
The Amarr, were they to resume their Reclaiming at scrambler-point, would indeed be a threat to us all. But there are other issues in play.
You ask about the Gallente. The Caldari fight them (to put it in the most simplistic manner possible) because the Gallente stole the only home the Caldari have ever truly cared for-- their homeworld, Caldari Prime. The Caldari just call it "Home." The Gallente, of course, had their reasons.
That war may possibly be nearing its end, but until the Gallente are no longer a threat the Caldari will never side against the Amarr. They don't especially like slavery, but they have their reasons as well.
As you have yours, as the Amarr have theirs.
Soldier, respectfully, it appears that you want to play the hero's role in all of this-- even if you must martyr your soul to your cause, you seem to do it because you believe your cause is a just one. This universe of ours will not, itself, validate your actions. There will be no chorus of benevolent spirits if the Amarr fall-- and by now you are surely aware that the Amarr, too, believe their cause is just.
This universe does not love an idealist, soldier, because it, itself, holds no ideal. If you stain your hands with the blood of many blameless people, what you will accomplish is to poison your soul-- and by that, I do not mean that you will go to some spiritual domain to be punished.
I mean that your life will become a corruptive force, a stain, a blight on the lives of others, not least on those who follow your example and become blights themselves. It is our role to be swords in the hands of others, but you seem ready to volunteer to become a murderous weapon.
If that is your path, so be it. But there will be nothing heroic in what you do, or in the sacrifice you make of yourself.
And what's more, since Mr. Horned Wolf has bungled his calculations horribly, you won't even be serving your cause. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
515
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Posted - 2013.07.10 03:28:00 -
[69] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:As you "free" our people from lives plagued be decisions, we'll continue freeing your souls to become one with you hoax, or "god" as you call it. Which are you talking to, freedom fighter? The clone soldiers, whose souls either are free already or will be very difficult to free? The Amarrian authorities, of whom you might eventually kill a couple if you're skilled and lucky? The Amarrian Holders, who are of such rank as to be trusted by their society with the ownership of slaves? Or, would that be the non-slave holding Amarrian common folk-- artisans, farmers, teachers-- Mr. "Horned Wolf" offers to slaughter? If it is the last, you will have to speak louder. Few of them can access this forum to even receive your message. They are as innocent as the people you've stolen from us, you forget that it was the amarr that committed the first hostile actions towards civilians, not us.
No hostile acts were commit toward you or your people. We wish to put you on the path to God's mercy and Salvation. |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:04:00 -
[70] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:Even though it started long ago, the amarr people still have a large segment of our population enslaved. If we have to sink into the mud with the empire so our people can be freed, then so be it, it's a necessary evil. However I don't see what the amarr/minmatar war has to do with the federation, please elaborate? They do have a sizeable percentage still enslaved, yes-- most of whom, if the recent release of many of them by order of the empress is any guide, are now faithful Amarr believers. The Amarr are not the only slavemasters in New Eden, nor the cruelest, but I do give them credit for being some of the most ... well, persuasive. Several generations of theological study and menial labor will break down most cultures very effectively. All of that said, their methods are nothing to those of the Sansha. The Amarr, were they to resume their Reclaiming at scrambler-point, would indeed be a threat to us all. But there are other issues in play. You ask about the Gallente. The Caldari fight them (to put it in the most simplistic manner possible) because the Gallente stole the only home the Caldari have ever truly cared for-- their homeworld, Caldari Prime. The Caldari just call it "Home." The Gallente, of course, had their reasons. That war may possibly be nearing its end, but until the Gallente are no longer a threat the Caldari will never side against the Amarr. They don't especially like slavery, but they have their reasons as well. As you have yours, as the Amarr have theirs. Soldier, respectfully, it appears that you want to play the hero's role in all of this-- even if you must martyr your soul to your cause, you seem to do it because you believe your cause is a just one. This universe of ours will not, itself, validate your actions. There will be no chorus of benevolent spirits if the Amarr fall-- and by now you are surely aware that the Amarr, too, believe their cause is just. This universe does not love an idealist, soldier, because it, itself, holds no ideal. If you stain your hands with the blood of many blameless people, what you will accomplish is to poison your soul-- and by that, I do not mean that you will go to some spiritual domain to be punished. I mean that your life will become a corruptive force, a stain, a blight on the lives of others, not least on those who follow your example and become blights themselves. It is our role to be swords in the hands of others, but you seem ready to volunteer to become a murderous weapon. If that is your path, so be it. But there will be nothing heroic in what you do, or in the sacrifice you make of yourself. And what's more, since Mr. Horned Wolf has bungled his calculations horribly, you won't even be serving your cause.
A tiny miscalculation for a small event, nothing compared to losing the majority of your fleet to a small squad of jove ships. Like the amarr, I do what I believe in, which deep inside you know is wrong, so we're both doomed to cursing those around us, so I will do what I can to give the empire a reason to let their slaves go. I weapon to dispatch the heretics which conduct themselves by tenants that support the torture of a people. The caldari dug their own grave when they made hidden weapon bases, which when compared to the widely known ones, suggest for an attack against the federation. Look at it this way, if the federation didn't act, we would have the same situation except with caldari striking unprovoked.
Sansha only changes the mindset of his people, to make them enjoy killing. Also, he rewards his subjects, instead of torturing them less. |
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Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:06:00 -
[71] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:As you "free" our people from lives plagued be decisions, we'll continue freeing your souls to become one with you hoax, or "god" as you call it. Which are you talking to, freedom fighter? The clone soldiers, whose souls either are free already or will be very difficult to free? The Amarrian authorities, of whom you might eventually kill a couple if you're skilled and lucky? The Amarrian Holders, who are of such rank as to be trusted by their society with the ownership of slaves? Or, would that be the non-slave holding Amarrian common folk-- artisans, farmers, teachers-- Mr. "Horned Wolf" offers to slaughter? If it is the last, you will have to speak louder. Few of them can access this forum to even receive your message. They are as innocent as the people you've stolen from us, you forget that it was the amarr that committed the first hostile actions towards civilians, not us. No hostile acts were commit toward you or your people. We wish to put you on the path to God's mercy and Salvation. That would be acceptable if it was attempted through missionaries instead of forced labour. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
47
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:35:00 -
[72] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:A tiny miscalculation for a small event, nothing compared to losing the majority of your fleet to a small squad of jove ships. Like the amarr, I do what I believe in, which deep inside you know is wrong, so we're both doomed to cursing those around us, so I will do what I can to give the empire a reason to let their slaves go. I weapon to dispatch the heretics which conduct themselves by tenants that support the torture of a people.
Soldier, the Empire suffers worse effects from a single capsuleer attack or Blood Raider (or, gods forbid, Sansha) raid than Mr. Horned Wolf is likely to pull off with a year of planning.
Killing civilians? Are you out of your poor minds already? We're virtually made for assassination, and you people want to kill civilians? Any fool with a modern sub machine gun can do that, abundantly.
If you people wanted to make progress rather than a tiny bit of noise, you'd be contemplating which Holders to pick off in what order. That would be interesting, at least.
This? This is just, well ... contemptible.
Quote:The caldari dug their own grave when they made hidden weapon bases, which when compared to the widely known ones, suggest for an attack against the federation. Look at it this way, if the federation didn't act, we would have the same situation except with caldari striking unprovoked.
Respectfully, the Caldari were setting up colonies rather than "weapon bases." One of those was my homeworld, Achura, which you may know as Saisio III. The Caldari uplifted the urban populations (in the sense of bringing them out of a preindustrial system and into a post-spaceflight age, not Sansha's version) and left the rest of us pretty well alone; we're still there.
You seem to be rather attached to the notion of the Federation as heroes, soldier. And they do often like to think of themselves that way. Sadly, it's not true. They, too, are guilty of horrors, as they, themselves, will often admit.
Quote:Sansha only changes the mindset of his people, to make them enjoy killing. Also, he rewards his subjects, instead of torturing them less.
I knew someone, once, that the Sansha took, soldier. I knew him after, as well.
Please believe me when I say that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Kuvakei "changes" the "mindset" of his people as an axe changes a log. What does it matter how damaged the psyche becomes if the damage cannot be expressed?... And then, if we are to believe his propaganda, he makes his victims immortal, as well.
Broken, forever.
There is no other fate in New Eden that compares. |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
I would like to address your sansha references out of character because I let a bit of rp for another character leak.onto this one. (In character) every race has committed atrocities, but fighting the caldari wasn't one, and the ones performed daily by the amarr are arguably the worst. That attack wasn't of my design, I merely participated. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
521
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Posted - 2013.07.10 04:56:00 -
[74] - Quote
Indeed we do not fear the terrorist activities of a single small cell in Amarrian space, if indeed there even is one, for that matter the announcement of such an attack leads our superiors to believe that such slaughter isn't even plausible within the Empire, as security over major residential zones is being tightened.
As the Caldari uplifted the Archura, we sought to uplift the Minmatar who at the time were constrained by notions unbecoming of their noble race. as such we found it to be our duty to bring the minmatar into the galactic fold and allow them to become a part of the unity we shared, however they spurned that.
As for our defeat by the Jove it is interesting you should note that....as at the time our navies and armies were the strongest of the four nations. As for what they did to us in battle such was our arrogance and fervour, however imagining you paltry levels of technological development I cannot help but wonder if they would have destroyed you people in a single night.....
As do I know the victims and tragedies of Sansha Kuvakei's madness first hand, when my Templar brothers rebelled and sought aid from such a fiend, who used them, corrupted them and abandoned them as we close in. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
521
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:I would like to address your sansha references out of character because I let a bit of rp for another character leak.onto this one. (In character) every race has committed atrocities, but fighting the caldari wasn't one, and the ones performed daily by the amarr are arguably the worst. That attack wasn't of my design, I merely participated.
(( That not at all even remotely true you cannot judge the acts of these races based upon modern conceptions of how we have acted, perceived, or developed as a society. I mean anthropologically speaking (and sure I took anthro 101 and 201) each race has developed a set of ritualised customs based upon its environment and individual racial experiences, the Gallente found freedom and liberalism to be the most beneficial arrangement for themselves, the Caldari found conservative nationalism, the amarr found imperialism, and the mInmatar found unified societal groups as their means, how they achieve their goal are no better or worse than how any of the other groups achieve theirs.) |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:04:00 -
[76] - Quote
While our navy was weak then we now have our ships on par, if not better to the equivalent amarr ship. What makes them worse is not necessarily the religion, but it's use to justify horrible acts. That was only a basic hit and run plan, not too different from your methods of taking slaves. |
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei
Bojo's School of the Trades
151
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
I would like to inform you that I am the only reason my planet in feythabolis was added to sansha's navy. I was immediately praised by sansha himself, given is to buy a normal crystal set on the market along with other combat implants. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
521
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:15:00 -
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Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:While our navy was weak then we now have our ships on par, if not better to the equivalent amarr ship. What makes them worse is not necessarily the religion, but it's use to justify horrible acts. That was only a basic hit and run plan, not too different from your methods of taking slaves. You fail to listen then, I am done with your arguments. I have accepted that my people hold slaves, explained to you why, explained to you our creed and views towards those who toil in God's name, I have given evidence of the brutality of the other nations, and I have accepted our own where proven.
Buy you do not listen. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
47
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:15:00 -
[79] - Quote
Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:I would like to address your sansha references out of character because I let a bit of rp for another character leak.onto this one.
(( <-- OOC is usually indicated by double-parentheses, for future reference-- like these ones, here. --> ))
((It's also something we should avoid using much. The mods have been going a bit easy, but it's kind of a bad habit. That said, thank you for the clarification; I won't pursue it further.))
Quote:every race has committed atrocities, but fighting the caldari wasn't one, and the ones performed daily by the amarr are arguably the worst. That attack wasn't of my design, I merely participated.
Soldier, you've seen orbital bombardment on a small scale. Those are destroyer-class vessels firing at us most of the time-- when it's not the even-less-formidable MCC.
The Gallente bombarded Caldari Prime from orbit. They bombed the cities. The U-Nat party that held control at that time was a fascist faction, the Gallentean answer to the Templis Dragonaurs. They acted as such people will: brutally.
The Amarr look on slavery as a sort of spiritual apprenticeship. Their faith grants their hardliners a sad sort of innocence; they do as they believe they should. The influence of their more reform-minded kin is growing, however, and has been for many years. Karin Midular understood this; it is sad that others of the tribes cannot.
For my own part, I believe that the attempted destruction of the Matari culture is the more horrible act. The rest ... is mostly just people being people to one another.
A few other examples of people being people:
* The Blood Raiders will drain all of your blood for the sake (almost literally) of getting to know you better. Otherwise, they'll likely just enslave you. Can you imagine the Amarr without their belief in a compassionate and just deity?
* The Angel Cartel fairly simply regards a human being as another piece of property to be looted and sold at auction.
* Sansha Kuvakei thinks we should all stop fighting each other, and is prepared to take a hatchet to your psychology to persuade you that he's right. He's in the market for slaves, by the way.
* The Caldari State normally grants no legal status to persons who have no corporate citizenship. To become a "nonentity" is to disappear from the system and become a non-person. The State doesn't practice slavery, however.
* You may want to look into the way the Matari approach certain ill-omened voluval.
* The Gallente have their own faith-- "freedom"-- and they want to spread it to everybody else, whether we want it or not. It's sort of an open secret that they tried to bring about the State's collapse for decades, essentially by selling holoflicks to the Caldari. The resulting revolt is what brought Tibus Heth to power.
* The Equilibrium of Mankind thinks we shouldn't be in New Eden at all-- the equilibrium they're aiming for is the one you achieve between matter and antimatter: annihilation.
* The Jove preached to the capsuleers about the conundrum of capsuleer benevolence versus the ridiculous capsuleer bodycount, then gifted them all with battlecruisers.
... I could go on, if you want me to? |
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei
Bojo's School of the Trades
151
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Blood raiders are like the amarr "enslavers" in the sense that they mainly go after the purest blood, whicu means amarr officials and nobles. So they're targeting a group if people without proper reason. Like the caldari didn't retaliate using the same methods, which is likely a reason a caldari carrier crashed into gallante prime. |
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Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 05:37:00 -
[81] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:While our navy was weak then we now have our ships on par, if not better to the equivalent amarr ship. What makes them worse is not necessarily the religion, but it's use to justify horrible acts. That was only a basic hit and run plan, not too different from your methods of taking slaves. You fail to listen then, I am done with your arguments. I have accepted that my people hold slaves, explained to you why, explained to you our creed and views towards those who toil in God's name, I have given evidence of the brutality of the other nations, and I have accepted our own where proven. Buy you do not listen.
I have listened but you haven't come close to solving my question, you never gave a concrete reason why enslaving is justified, only that you do it because a fiction novel said it's ok. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
521
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:10:00 -
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Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:While our navy was weak then we now have our ships on par, if not better to the equivalent amarr ship. What makes them worse is not necessarily the religion, but it's use to justify horrible acts. That was only a basic hit and run plan, not too different from your methods of taking slaves. You fail to listen then, I am done with your arguments. I have accepted that my people hold slaves, explained to you why, explained to you our creed and views towards those who toil in God's name, I have given evidence of the brutality of the other nations, and I have accepted our own where proven. Buy you do not listen. I have listened but you haven't come close to solving my question, you never gave a concrete reason why enslaving is justified, only that you do it because a fiction novel said it's ok. The enslavement of races is a part of our culture that dates back to the earliest of Amarrian histories it is our way of allowing the races to come to the same sense of realisation we did in the past through long toil and sufferage, it is our belief that with such trials overcome one can be closer to God and therefore responsible for their mortal soul.
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
Once a race is deemed worthy it is inducted into the Empire as equals, as brothers and sisters and all of God's children. Such was done with the Ni Kunni and now they are a proud productive people within our great empire, such was the fate of the Ammatar who too have come to see God's design, and were once of the Matari peoples.
It is the goal of the Amarrian empire to extend the light of God's word to the furthest starts of this galaxy so that all the people of New Eden will be united by a single purpose and faith, and that in that blissful unity we may all know true peace, both in body and soul, in this life and in God's promised land. |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:27:00 -
[83] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cormack's Modified Griefer wrote:While our navy was weak then we now have our ships on par, if not better to the equivalent amarr ship. What makes them worse is not necessarily the religion, but it's use to justify horrible acts. That was only a basic hit and run plan, not too different from your methods of taking slaves. You fail to listen then, I am done with your arguments. I have accepted that my people hold slaves, explained to you why, explained to you our creed and views towards those who toil in God's name, I have given evidence of the brutality of the other nations, and I have accepted our own where proven. Buy you do not listen. I have listened but you haven't come close to solving my question, you never gave a concrete reason why enslaving is justified, only that you do it because a fiction novel said it's ok. The enslavement of races is a part of our culture that dates back to the earliest of Amarrian histories it is our way of allowing the races to come to the same sense of realisation we did in the past through long toil and sufferage, it is our belief that with such trials overcome one can be closer to God and therefore responsible for their mortal soul. "Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5 Once a race is deemed worthy it is inducted into the Empire as equals, as brothers and sisters and all of God's children. Such was done with the Ni Kunni and now they are a proud productive people within our great empire, such was the fate of the Ammatar who too have come to see God's design, and were once of the Matari peoples. It is the goal of the Amarrian empire to extend the light of God's word to the furthest starts of this galaxy so that all the people of New Eden will be united by a single purpose and faith, and that in that blissful unity we may all know true peace, both in body and soul, in this life and in God's promised land.
You specifically complained about gallente citizens spread freedom, even though having freedom wouldn't affect any amarr believer. Please show me how it's not any different from what amarr do, if not worse since it forces an unnecessary change. So you're principles have a havy undertone of hypocritical motives? |
Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:28:00 -
[84] - Quote
Also, how are amarr supposed to know if a races has already toiled or not, and their different named deities would all be one under another name. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
591
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:36:00 -
[85] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death.
So you say the it will be up to use Templars to stop you where you strike. As you say we Templars may make use of similar tactics we can be anyone, anywhere, especially in Amarrian Space. I am warning the upper Echelon of the Praetoriate as well speak of your claims, their influence is strong in Amarr space your goals will not be easy to achieve. Concord will also be notified of such claims and an appeal for aid against your cell will be filed. As well I have taken the steps to approach allied loyalist corporations to provide security services for the foreseeable future. This is the true terror of uncontrolled Immortal Clones, such unrestrained tendencies for violence and hate, such will to complete acts of unspeakable evil, and all for one persons own cause..... We Amarrian will do as well have always done "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21
Templars? Let the Templars try to stop an immortal force that is well funded and supplied. I am not worried about a bunch of defective clones with no ISK and a head full of bad wiring. Please.
Concord? Those blood thirsty cadaver jockeys are too busy popping high sec-ers for being stupid to try to stop anything we do. They don't even have suits on the ground, how are they going to stop a mercenary force that can be anywhere at anytime?
I will provide assistance to any mercs or groups who want to fight for freedom. Giving life back to those who need it most is why I became a mercenary and I am ready to stand up and fight for freedom. Slavery is an cancer and should be removed. Quoting scripture and implying that slavery is justified by history of treatment still doesn't make slavery right. I will spend my eternity fighting for what is good and right not what is justified by a theocracy or tradition.
Freedom! |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1051
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:43:00 -
[86] - Quote
The Robot Devil wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death.
So you say the it will be up to use Templars to stop you where you strike. As you say we Templars may make use of similar tactics we can be anyone, anywhere, especially in Amarrian Space. I am warning the upper Echelon of the Praetoriate as well speak of your claims, their influence is strong in Amarr space your goals will not be easy to achieve. Concord will also be notified of such claims and an appeal for aid against your cell will be filed. As well I have taken the steps to approach allied loyalist corporations to provide security services for the foreseeable future. This is the true terror of uncontrolled Immortal Clones, such unrestrained tendencies for violence and hate, such will to complete acts of unspeakable evil, and all for one persons own cause..... We Amarrian will do as well have always done "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 Templars? Let the Templars try to stop an immortal force that is well funded and supplied. I am not worried about a bunch of defective clones with no ISK and a head full of bad wiring. Please. Concord? Those blood thirsty cadaver jockeys are too busy popping high sec-ers for being stupid to try to stop anything we do. They don't even have suits on the ground, how are they going to stop a mercenary force that can be anywhere at anytime? I will provide assistance to any mercs or groups who want to fight for freedom. Giving life back to those who need it most is why I became a mercenary and I am ready to stand up and fight for freedom. Slavery is an cancer and should be removed. Quoting scripture and implying that slavery is justified by history of treatment still doesn't make slavery right. I will spend my eternity fighting for what is good and right not what is justified by a theocracy or tradition. Freedom!
Yes freedom for all, even if it means freeing the innocent children from their mortal coil right. Gallente always so caught up within their own rhetoric. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
524
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:43:00 -
[87] - Quote
The Robot Devil wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones like T.Errorist explained, we can be anyone, we can be everywhere; We are the closest thing to God there is. We do not need the support of the Federation nor the Republic; the Republic is not willing to make the hard choices, and the Federation is far too lazy to make their ideals a reality. We have the funds to hire thousands of amoral mercenaries to do what must be done, and are reborn anew with each death.
So you say the it will be up to use Templars to stop you where you strike. As you say we Templars may make use of similar tactics we can be anyone, anywhere, especially in Amarrian Space. I am warning the upper Echelon of the Praetoriate as well speak of your claims, their influence is strong in Amarr space your goals will not be easy to achieve. Concord will also be notified of such claims and an appeal for aid against your cell will be filed. As well I have taken the steps to approach allied loyalist corporations to provide security services for the foreseeable future. This is the true terror of uncontrolled Immortal Clones, such unrestrained tendencies for violence and hate, such will to complete acts of unspeakable evil, and all for one persons own cause..... We Amarrian will do as well have always done "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 Templars? Let the Templars try to stop an immortal force that is well funded and supplied. I am not worried about a bunch of defective clones with no ISK and a head full of bad wiring. Please. Concord? Those blood thirsty cadaver jockeys are too busy popping high sec-ers for being stupid to try to stop anything we do. They don't even have suits on the ground, how are they going to stop a mercenary force that can be anywhere at anytime? I will provide assistance to any mercs or groups who want to fight for freedom. Giving life back to those who need it most is why I became a mercenary and I am ready to stand up and fight for freedom. Slavery is an cancer and should be removed. Quoting scripture and implying that slavery is justified by history of treatment still doesn't make slavery right. I will spend my eternity fighting for what is good and right not what is justified by a theocracy or tradition. Freedom! Unfortunately Kagehoshi's cell is not supported or funded by the Empires so much so he has claimed, and the ISK or mere mercenaries is pittance to that of a mighty empire, one whose corporate parts hire you in the first place.
As you may or may no know the Templar project is one designed to create immortal soldiers like myself, we are as immortal as you, able to use any and all of our empires assets to our advantage. If you refer to our earlier generation Templar then perhaps you are right, our earlier attempts to create such soldiers were not wholly successful however 4th Generation Templars like myself are much more stable than those of the previous generations, as for our ISK, the Praetoriate supplies me with what I need, and their service to the empire rewards them.
((As this event would take place in High sec....yes Concord would inherently be present and a huge part of such matters as for suits on the ground I'm sure they do they just don't need to hire us as they probably have their own internal branches of security personell))
As for you beliefs in regards to what we do I have tried time and time again to explain what the Amarr do, and time and time again you choose to misunderstand my words and ignore my explainations, there is no point in discussing matters of Theology with such pitiable souls.
However what Kagehoshi has planned is not conflict for freedom, he wishes to free no slaves with his actions nor campaign for their release, instead he plots the murder of innocent women and children with no provocation, and makes no attempt to deny it. His villainy, and yours should you go along with his plots to terrorise the masses, will go down in history as the evil we sought to end. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
591
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:59:00 -
[88] - Quote
I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
524
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 07:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....))
The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. |
medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
61
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:49:00 -
[90] - Quote
Empress Jamyl I emancipated Minmatar slaves of 9th generation and up, and those who are involved in theological and academic fields. Those who refused to free the emancipated Minmatar slaves, the Refusards, were destroyed by the Amarr Empire.
Kagehoshi, If your goal is to free the millions that did not meet those conditions set by the Empress, I recommend encouraging conditions that allow the Minmatar slaves to meet the latter requirement of being involved in theological or academic fields. Your current plan will cause excessive collateral damage and you run the risk of invoking the Empress's wrath. |
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Kurtis Williams
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.12 11:32:00 -
[91] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....)) The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. You believe, you can speak for my people! You who enslaved us, you who tormented us, You who killed our people and for what your own self importance your own ignorance! If any here besides our own people can speak for the Minmatar Republic, it is the Federation whom brought us hope and sheltered us from your brutality Amarrian, and now we stand on our own ready to strike you down. Your god will not save you we will see you suffer, as you forced us to suffer. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1095
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 00:42:00 -
[92] - Quote
Kurtis Williams wrote:True Adamance wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....)) The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. You believe, you can speak for my people! You who enslaved us, you who tormented us, You who killed our people and for what your own self importance your own ignorance! If any here besides our own people can speak for the Minmatar Republic, it is the Federation whom brought us hope and sheltered us from your brutality Amarrian, and now we stand on our own ready to strike you down. Your god will not save you we will see you suffer, as you forced us to suffer.
You poor deluded fool. The Federation giving up and uplifting others? Please, take it from someone with a long history dealing with the Gallente than you. As soon as you decide to truly exercise your freedoms in a way they disagree with they will turn their backs on you and assault you with no sense irony while they screech to the others that they are still upholding the ideals of freedom as they did with the Caldari. Allying yourself with them is merely casting off the yoke of the Amarr in favor of the Gallente and true freedom for your people if you so desire it must be earned on your own merits not "given" to you by bold faced hypocrites. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
557
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 01:03:00 -
[93] - Quote
Kurtis Williams wrote:True Adamance wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....)) The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. You believe, you can speak for my people! You who enslaved us, you who tormented us, You who killed our people and for what your own self importance your own ignorance! If any here besides our own people can speak for the Minmatar Republic, it is the Federation whom brought us hope and sheltered us from your brutality Amarrian, and now we stand on our own ready to strike you down. Your god will not save you we will see you suffer, as you forced us to suffer. Again you have not come to this discussion with any intention other than to rail against those who uplifted you from filth, saved you from sin, and sought to preserve the purity of your immortal souls.
You are an people filled with anger, such must be tempered for your own sakes.
Our people suffer daily, war is not what we desire, it is but a means to and end, our suffrage is that we must strive every day to bring God's word to the furthest stars while heathens, false prophets, and misguided sinners seek to bring us down. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
557
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 01:04:00 -
[94] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:Kurtis Williams wrote:True Adamance wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....)) The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. You believe, you can speak for my people! You who enslaved us, you who tormented us, You who killed our people and for what your own self importance your own ignorance! If any here besides our own people can speak for the Minmatar Republic, it is the Federation whom brought us hope and sheltered us from your brutality Amarrian, and now we stand on our own ready to strike you down. Your god will not save you we will see you suffer, as you forced us to suffer. You poor deluded fool. The Federation giving up and uplifting others? Please, take it from someone with a long history dealing with the Gallente than you. As soon as you decide to truly exercise your freedoms in a way they disagree with they will turn their backs on you and assault you with no sense irony while they screech to the others that they are still upholding the ideals of freedom as they did with the Caldari. Allying yourself with them is merely casting off the yoke of the Amarr in favor of the Gallente and true freedom for your people if you so desire it must be earned on your own merits not "given" to you by bold faced hypocrites.
The Gallenteans only sought to bring your people aid so that they would weaken the empire for them, in the hopes that they would be able to subdue the Caldari before engaging the larger might of the Empire.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1096
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Posted - 2013.07.13 01:37:00 -
[95] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Kurtis Williams wrote:True Adamance wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I may be from the Templar project but I am not a Templar like you, I am freedom fighter. I am glad your clone is more stable because it is not fun shooting a corpse. I understand your religious zealous but it doesn't make up for the oppression applied to to people who want freedom.
I doubt Concord has any special forces. Have you been on the battlefield? Recruits dying before getting a shot off and murder squads roaming in search of new clones. I have no faith in Concord or their ability to influence any conflict especially if it is in low security space or worse. They can't even stop freighters from being seized and destroyed at the busiest system in the galaxy. (( OCC you aren't amarrian I wouldn't have been a part of the Templar Programme.....)) The Minmatar aren't yours, you cannot speak their words for them. They are our, they belong in our empire, the Ammatar are the examples of that. You believe, you can speak for my people! You who enslaved us, you who tormented us, You who killed our people and for what your own self importance your own ignorance! If any here besides our own people can speak for the Minmatar Republic, it is the Federation whom brought us hope and sheltered us from your brutality Amarrian, and now we stand on our own ready to strike you down. Your god will not save you we will see you suffer, as you forced us to suffer. You poor deluded fool. The Federation giving up and uplifting others? Please, take it from someone with a long history dealing with the Gallente than you. As soon as you decide to truly exercise your freedoms in a way they disagree with they will turn their backs on you and assault you with no sense irony while they screech to the others that they are still upholding the ideals of freedom as they did with the Caldari. Allying yourself with them is merely casting off the yoke of the Amarr in favor of the Gallente and true freedom for your people if you so desire it must be earned on your own merits not "given" to you by bold faced hypocrites. The Gallenteans only sought to bring your people aid so that they would weaken the empire for them, in the hopes that they would be able to subdue the Caldari before engaging the larger might of the Empire.
If you are addressing me then you made a mistake, I am Caldari. Ugh, being mistaken for a Gallente, I feel nauseous. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
558
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 01:39:00 -
[96] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote: If you are addressing me then you made a mistake, I am Caldari. Ugh, being mistaken for a Gallente, I feel nauseous.
don't worry im just quoting you |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
71
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Posted - 2013.07.13 06:24:00 -
[97] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Again you have not come to this discussion with any intention other than to rail against those who uplifted you from filth, saved you from sin, and sought to preserve the purity of your immortal souls.
You are an people filled with anger, such must be tempered for your own sakes.
Our people suffer daily, war is not what we desire, it is but a means to and end, our suffrage is that we must strive every day to bring God's word to the furthest stars while heathens, false prophets, and misguided sinners seek to bring us down.
The Caldari resentment of the Gallente stems from a similar source. Mr. Williams' words are unbalanced, templar, but, with respect, it is not difficult to imagine them coming from the lips of a Caldari, or an Achur. Those who seek to spread truths they consider universal must be prepared for the resentment of those who do not agree with their assessment. |
21yrOld Knight
187. League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:34:00 -
[98] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I represent one of many Minmatar sleeper cells that exists within Amarr space. I am personally a Gallente Immigrant and citizen. While the Gallente are supporters of the Minmatar Republic, and like us they recognize the value of freedom, they are not willing to make the hard choices needed to ensure that all peoples share the same basic rights to liberty; the Federation will likely brand us as terrorists, and probably the Republic as well. I cannot say how many of us there are, or exactly where, but we form an underground network that exists for two purposes:
Helping slaves find their way out of Amarr space to escape to freedom.
To sabotage and attack the Amarr empire from within.
We are currently planning a coordinated attack in densely populated cities. The goal is to inflict massive casualties. Immortal mercenaries will be given ethnic Amarr clones as disguises during the attack. You will be supplied with stolen scrambler rifles from our sources within the Amarr military. If you have any moral qualms about taking the lives of civilians, just remember that sometimes a few have to be sacrificed so that millions more can have a better life, also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries.
EDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months given the sheer volume of the slave population, but if the Empire refuses than all Amarr planets will become active warzones where none will be safe. All slaves must be dosed with the vitoxin antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones. We can look like anyone simply by transferring to a different clone, we can go anywhere instantly as long as a Sleeper implant-carrying clone exists there. Killing us will do nothing, capturing us will do nothing; this is the power of the instant transfer of consciousness. We are the closest things to God.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me.
Sign me up! A chance to free slaves is a chance for hope. The Amarr are weak, this task will be very easy to complete. They are loosing their war against the minmatar and the Templars are nothing compared to their enemy. I will make great profit from this attack sign me up. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
741
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 05:54:00 -
[99] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I represent one of many Minmatar sleeper cells that exists within Amarr space. I am personally a Gallente Immigrant and citizen. While the Gallente are supporters of the Minmatar Republic, and like us they recognize the value of freedom, they are not willing to make the hard choices needed to ensure that all peoples share the same basic rights to liberty; the Federation will likely brand us as terrorists, and probably the Republic as well. I cannot say how many of us there are, or exactly where, but we form an underground network that exists for two purposes:
Helping slaves find their way out of Amarr space to escape to freedom.
To sabotage and attack the Amarr empire from within.
We are currently planning a coordinated attack in densely populated cities. The goal is to inflict massive casualties. Immortal mercenaries will be given ethnic Amarr clones as disguises during the attack. You will be supplied with stolen scrambler rifles from our sources within the Amarr military. If you have any moral qualms about taking the lives of civilians, just remember that sometimes a few have to be sacrificed so that millions more can have a better life, also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries.
EDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months given the sheer volume of the slave population, but if the Empire refuses than all Amarr planets will become active warzones where none will be safe. All slaves must be dosed with the vitoxin antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones. We can look like anyone simply by transferring to a different clone, we can go anywhere instantly as long as a Sleeper implant-carrying clone exists there. Killing us will do nothing, capturing us will do nothing; this is the power of the instant transfer of consciousness. We are the closest things to God.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me. Sign me up! A chance to free slaves is a chance for hope. The Amarr are weak, this task will be very easy to complete. They are loosing their war against the minmatar and the Templars are nothing compared to their enemy. I will make great profit from this attack sign me up.
Nothing has since eventuated of these threats, the Amarr are hugely outnumbered in the war but we are holding our own, pushing from Sahtogas to Arzad, and now holding there..... and you obviously haven't met a Templar then.... our Renegade brethren are nothing compared to the loyalists. |
21yrOld Knight
187. League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:58:00 -
[100] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:
Nothing has since eventuated of these threats, the Amarr are hugely outnumbered in the war but we are holding our own, pushing from Sahtogas to Arzad, and now holding there..... and you obviously haven't met a Templar then.... our Renegade brethren are nothing compared to the loyalists.
Your right I have never met a Templar. A rancher never names his cattle. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
743
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Posted - 2013.07.18 06:42:00 -
[101] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Nothing has since eventuated of these threats, the Amarr are hugely outnumbered in the war but we are holding our own, pushing from Sahtogas to Arzad, and now holding there..... and you obviously haven't met a Templar then.... our Renegade brethren are nothing compared to the loyalists.
Your right I have never met a Templar, well personally . A rancher never names his cattle.
They are not chattel for us to do with as we wish, they are potential converts, people who we respect and seek to lead down the right path to God. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
102
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:37:00 -
[102] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:Sign me up! A chance to free slaves is a chance for hope. The Amarr are weak, this task will be very easy to complete. They are loosing their war against the minmatar and the Templars are nothing compared to their enemy. I will make great profit from this attack sign me up.
Well, now. This is interesting-- a man who was so very quick to declare his allegiance to the almighty ISK and to name this path as morally superior now volunteers with vigor to slaughter civilians?
You would use the tactics of the disempowered (terrorism, a.k.a. "propaganda by deed") despite your position of strength as a clone soldier-- and you would use this tactic against a power structure that is uniquely unlikely to be swayed by it.
In other words, you would befoul your soul to no purpose.
How perfectly contemptible. |
21yrOld Knight
187. League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.07.19 02:23:00 -
[103] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Well, now. This is interesting-- a man who was so very quick to declare his allegiance to the almighty ISK and to name this path as morally superior now volunteers with vigor to slaughter civilians?
You would use the tactics of the disempowered (terrorism, a.k.a. "propaganda by deed") despite your position of strength as a clone soldier-- and you would use this tactic against a power structure that is especially unlikely to be swayed by it.
In other words, you would befoul your soul to no purpose.
How perfectly contemptible.
Well you caught me in my scheme. Yes you are right these attacks would do probably nothing but **** off the Amarr, creating a man hunt for the known attackers. I was simply saying those things to get Mr. Wolf to higher me. You have to understand a true mercenary, one not oriented by his beliefs except his belief in profit must have his employers convinced that they will fight for their cause. Seeing that you noticed a flaw I must tell you my real plan because I have no reason to continue pursuit for this job. My original plan was to sign up do very little during these attacks not be noticed as a attacker. If a assault went successful i would collect my pay and move on, not doing another job for Mr.Wolf. I want to make a profit not a loss in a weak cause. Yes that may be despicable but remember a true mercenary will always be despicable no matter what some one may think. We are made to kill nothing and bring ruin to others we will always be despicable. Someone will always think we're despicable. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
106
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:21:00 -
[104] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:Well you caught me in my scheme. Yes you are right these attacks would do probably nothing but **** off the Amarr, creating a man hunt for the known attackers. I was simply saying those things to get Mr. Wolf to higher me. You have to understand a true mercenary, one not oriented by his beliefs except his belief in profit must have his employers convinced that they will fight for their cause. Seeing that you noticed a flaw I must tell you my real plan because I have no reason to continue pursuit for this job. My original plan was to sign up do very little during these attacks not be noticed as a attacker. If a assault went successful i would collect my pay and move on, not doing another job for Mr.Wolf. I want to make a profit not a loss in a weak cause. Yes that may be despicable but remember a true mercenary will always be despicable no matter what some one may think. We are made to kill nothing and bring ruin to others we will always be despicable. Someone will always think we're despicable.
Oh, spirits help me.
Soldier, with all the respect I can muster under the circumstances ... there is a difference, a great difference, between being a mercenary and being lost.
Even if you believe-- and I do-- that morality is relative, a soldier without principle is a pitiful creature: a weapon that cannot be depended on. We are not given this role only so that we can sate our greed. We are here to provide a service, something of value.
Who would choose to buy a sword that cannot be relied upon to at least be a weapon in its master's hands? What would the purpose of such a sword be?
And, gods, to be such a sword, to aspire to be such a sword...!
You're quite right, soldier: to be a tool that serves only itself will always be seen as despicable. |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
92
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Posted - 2013.07.20 04:15:00 -
[105] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I represent one of many Minmatar sleeper cells that exists within Amarr space. I am personally a Gallente Immigrant and citizen. While the Gallente are supporters of the Minmatar Republic, and like us they recognize the value of freedom, they are not willing to make the hard choices needed to ensure that all peoples share the same basic rights to liberty; the Federation will likely brand us as terrorists, and probably the Republic as well. I cannot say how many of us there are, or exactly where, but we form an underground network that exists for two purposes:
Helping slaves find their way out of Amarr space to escape to freedom.
To sabotage and attack the Amarr empire from within.
We are currently planning a coordinated attack in densely populated cities. The goal is to inflict massive casualties. Immortal mercenaries will be given ethnic Amarr clones as disguises during the attack. You will be supplied with stolen scrambler rifles from our sources within the Amarr military. If you have any moral qualms about taking the lives of civilians, just remember that sometimes a few have to be sacrificed so that millions more can have a better life, also 5 million ISK for one successful attack will more than cover the emotional costs.
We are looking for more interested mercenaries.
EDIT: Slaughter is merely to act as a distraction, while the slave-owning Amarr filth struggle to cope with what has happened, and the police forces swarm to the attack sites, my brothers and sisters will use the chaos flee to pre-selected location to be transported out of Amarr space via cloaked dropship.
After every attack we will give the Amarr the chance to do the right thing, to free every slave, and to transport them to a small fleet of ships belonging to our network within the edge of Amarr space. this may take months given the sheer volume of the slave population, but if the Empire refuses than all Amarr planets will become active warzones where none will be safe. All slaves must be dosed with the vitoxin antidote. If even one slave dies of vitoxin poisoning, then the streets of your cities will run red with blood. They will have their chance to save their people; if they don't, then it merely shows that they care more about the barbaric practices than your own people.
CONCORD is powerless to stop immortal clones. We can look like anyone simply by transferring to a different clone, we can go anywhere instantly as long as a Sleeper implant-carrying clone exists there. Killing us will do nothing, capturing us will do nothing; this is the power of the instant transfer of consciousness. We are the closest things to God.
My brutality is not without purpose. In time, history will vindicate me.
I would join your ranks, but I prefer each Amarr I kill to see the Minmatar that sent them to meet their God. I will fight in the open. I will fight mercilessly. I will hold no quarter. And I will make my ancestors proud. o7 That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
94
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:05:00 -
[106] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace. Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live. On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided.
ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
751
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:24:00 -
[107] - Quote
da GAND wrote:True Adamance wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Inquisitor Pardus wrote:All you are going to achieve is the brutal slaughter of civilians, though such debased acts do not surprise me. The Matari have always butchered when they could of talked. Your Republic is weak, you slaughter your supposed allies and try to "liberate" people who would have a worse life in your care.
Faith Is Our Sword Spoken exactly like a fool who does not know the meaning and value of sacrifice. No one is going to be talked out of slavery, action and not talk is what gets results. What good is talk against a people who blindly believe in and worship a magical man in the sky without the slightest drop of evidence? I spit on the so-called "holy" scriptures. You call the Republic weak, yet the state is run by a fool, and the Empire is led by a mad women. Its you and your allies who are truly weak. As good as arguing against a people with no faith, who execute men without due course despite their posturing of civility and grace. Our Empress stands strong as a symbol to us all, as one whose faith is constantly tested every minute of every day, whose actions dictate the course of billions of live and by whose teachings those billions live. On behalf of the Caldari, many of whom I have had the privilege to fight beside in combat, I will not stand for their ridicule. Their valour and sacrifice in the name of duty and kinship is indeed admirable, though they do not subscribe to the teachings of God their people are just and good, albeit misguided. ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god You know nothing of Amarrian culture.... we are only to happy to enlighten you as you toil in God's name. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
111
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:34:00 -
[108] - Quote
da GAND wrote:ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god
Um. For the record, soldier, the Amarr Empire has existed in a more or less stable form for thousands of years. There aren't a lot of civilizations that can say that; as a tool for statecraft and social control, it appears that religion is kind of hard to beat. |
21yrOld Knight
187. League of Infamy
31
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:12:00 -
[109] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:da GAND wrote:ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god Um. For the record, soldier, the Amarr Empire has existed in a more or less stable form for thousands of years. There aren't a lot of civilizations that can say that; as a tool for statecraft and social control, it appears that religion is kind of hard to beat. What I'm getting at is, you say this like it's an unambiguously bad thing. That's far from obvious unless you happen to be one of their neighbors-- which, of course, we all are, but their faith is still nothing to treat with contempt. Fear, perhaps....
I have to agree with you on this. I saw this from the beginning, because I once too followed such a blind path that the ammarrians have. It is a very strong bond holding the amarrian empire. Strong but not unbreakable. I am amarrian but I do not follow such fake beliefs. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
752
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:21:00 -
[110] - Quote
21yrOld Knight wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:da GAND wrote:ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god Um. For the record, soldier, the Amarr Empire has existed in a more or less stable form for thousands of years. There aren't a lot of civilizations that can say that; as a tool for statecraft and social control, it appears that religion is kind of hard to beat. What I'm getting at is, you say this like it's an unambiguously bad thing. That's far from obvious unless you happen to be one of their neighbors-- which, of course, we all are, but their faith is still nothing to treat with contempt. Fear, perhaps.... I have to agree with you on this. I saw this from the beginning, because I once too followed such a blind path that the ammarrians have. It is a very strong bond holding the amarrian empire. Strong but not unbreakable. I am amarrian but I do not follow such fake beliefs. Then you have abandoned God?
Such is to be expected of those who have attained a false immortality.... while your body may never die your soul is corrupted by your arrogance. What God gives he can also take....
In any case our Faith is the greatest display of Amarrian might. Our Holy Empire reached out into the stars wishing to bring Light to all of those who were living in the darkness.
Many call us blind... but we are those who truly do see for our paths are illuminated by God's light.
But all we saw were sinners and heretics who spurned our holy word. |
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da GAND
187. League of Infamy
95
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Posted - 2013.07.20 13:30:00 -
[111] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:da GAND wrote:ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god Um. For the record, soldier, the Amarr Empire has existed in a more or less stable form for thousands of years. There aren't a lot of civilizations that can say that; as a tool for statecraft and social control, it appears that religion is kind of hard to beat. What I'm getting at is, you say this like it's an unambiguously bad thing. That's far from obvious unless you happen to be one of their neighbors-- which, of course, we all are, but their faith is still nothing to treat with contempt. Fear, perhaps.... I have to agree with you on this. I saw this from the beginning, because I once too followed such a blind path that the ammarrians have. It is a very strong bond holding the amarrian empire. Strong but not unbreakable. I am amarrian but I do not follow such fake beliefs. Then you have abandoned God? Such is to be expected of those who have attained a false immortality.... while your body may never die your soul is corrupted by your arrogance. What God gives he can also take.... In any case our Faith is the greatest display of Amarrian might. Our Holy Empire reached out into the stars wishing to bring Light to all of those who were living in the darkness. Many call us blind... but we are those who truly do see for our paths are illuminated by God's light. But all we saw were sinners and heretics who spurned our holy word.
Do you happen to be a priest also or does every Amarr talk just like you? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
752
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Posted - 2013.07.20 15:17:00 -
[112] - Quote
da GAND wrote:True Adamance wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:da GAND wrote:ah yes blind faith in a god you'll never see , used by the elite of your society to manipulate you to fight their wars, to enslave entire civilizations on behalf of your god Um. For the record, soldier, the Amarr Empire has existed in a more or less stable form for thousands of years. There aren't a lot of civilizations that can say that; as a tool for statecraft and social control, it appears that religion is kind of hard to beat. What I'm getting at is, you say this like it's an unambiguously bad thing. That's far from obvious unless you happen to be one of their neighbors-- which, of course, we all are, but their faith is still nothing to treat with contempt. Fear, perhaps.... I have to agree with you on this. I saw this from the beginning, because I once too followed such a blind path that the ammarrians have. It is a very strong bond holding the amarrian empire. Strong but not unbreakable. I am amarrian but I do not follow such fake beliefs. Then you have abandoned God? Such is to be expected of those who have attained a false immortality.... while your body may never die your soul is corrupted by your arrogance. What God gives he can also take.... In any case our Faith is the greatest display of Amarrian might. Our Holy Empire reached out into the stars wishing to bring Light to all of those who were living in the darkness. Many call us blind... but we are those who truly do see for our paths are illuminated by God's light. But all we saw were sinners and heretics who spurned our holy word. Do you happen to be a priest also or does every Amarr talk just like you? I am but one of God's holy instruments of war.
An avenging angel made immortal to best suit his edicts.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45 |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
115
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Posted - 2013.07.20 15:53:00 -
[113] - Quote
In other words, Mr. da GAND, he's a paladin, a holy warrior.
It must be quite the lovely feeling for one who believes in divine providence: to be able to be martyred a thousand times for one's faith, and still come back for more. Nothing short of a miracle, really.
Of course, there's that inconvenient bit about the rest of us also getting that same blessing. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
753
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Posted - 2013.07.20 16:00:00 -
[114] - Quote
Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:In other words, Mr. da GAND, he's a paladin, a holy warrior.
It must be quite the lovely feeling for one who believes in divine providence: to be able to be martyred a thousand times for one's faith, and still come back for more. Nothing short of a miracle, really.
Of course, there's that inconvenient bit about the rest of us also getting that same blessing. It is my honour. |
Wolverine Canus
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:15:00 -
[115] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI my brother in arms, stop this madness to impose your own form of 'justice' on innocent people, by killing people who have for generations embraced this faith, you will only be proving them right to view your race as dangerous and not ready for the blessing of God. Only through peaceful talks and diplomatic measures will the mimmatar ever gain the least measure of trust, look to the ammatar as an example brother. |
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