So I was playing with my heavy alt earlier this morning. I noticed a teammate having some trouble with a merc chipping away his shields. They were going at it!! So I run over as fast as my big butt can to help out. I move to the right of my teammate to start laying in the fire. Red falls rather quickly. Unbeknownst to me, he had some friends around the corner. So here comes five of em. But they didn't know I was a heavy. So I let the drums roll watching red energy bars deplete, spreading fire over the small passage to suppress. Then something changes. I notice that they are moving forward on me without fear. Then I notice my teammate was gone chasing someone else. Down I go.

Listen, don't leave your heavy. Your heavy can wear down your opponents while you mop the rest up. I don't care about my K/D ratio, I want what is best for my team. I hate when I come to the rescue of others with my heavy and they run!!! I'm taking all the firepower because a mercs first instincts is to concentrate fire on the heavy.

Also, understand tactics. If the majority of your team is firing on the frontline, get a couple of guys and go to the left and right sides. Somewhat like Shaka Zulu's bullhead maneuver; pierce the sides. In confusion they will be vulnerable.

Rant ended...

Heavies will all be quitting soon.

As a dedicated support logi I will pull out all the best gear for my heavies. I will sacrifice kill potential, mobility and a lot of ISK to make sure they feel safe and can stay in the fight. That said, they better listen to me when I tell them to pull back, and they better get between me and the firefight. They are the tank, I am the healer, lets not forget who the more vulnerable one is.

I see Logis run all over the battlefield. This Logi/Heavy thing people speak of must be a myth. I don't see it happening. I see heavies being left in the dust (no pun intended) plenty of times. If I'm running assault, I try to stick with the heavy to compensate for his lack of movement. Scratch my back and I scratch yours.

Heavies shouldn't be chasing people nor should he be trying to stick with the Logi. It's an elephant with a trunk for christ sakes. I think the Logi should stick with the heavy. If used properly, the heavy should be the brute force that leaves the holes in the majority of the opposing team's armor.

Ironically, isn't what they show on one of the vids? The heavies are on the frontlines firing while everybody is behind them pulling the rear.

Your point is taken, and I never ask a heavy to look for me, I usually ask if anyone needs a logi. Where I ask a heavy to do things, is while moving. My rep tool doesn't work when I sprint, or when my target goes around a corner. So if a heavy sprints away, I have to turn off the repper. They take a long time to rep, and if they aren't willing to slow down to be healed, it make keeping them alive even harder. Reacquiring a target can also be a huge hassle in the middle of a firefight. So going around corners and sprinting all over the place makes healing the heavy dangerous for both of us. Aiming the repper isn't always difficult, but if other targets are nearby and I have to reacquire, it's a nightmare. Problems like these make it more effective to just pull out a weapon and not worry about the heavy at all.

So these tips and requests are for making our job easier, and that job is to keep heavies in the fight.

As a scout, I always stick near my heavies. They make everyone shoot at them so that I can sneak around behind and shoot them in the back of the head.

I see Logis run all over the battlefield. This Logi/Heavy thing people speak of must be a myth. I don't see it happening. I see heavies being left in the dust (no pun intended) plenty of times. If I'm running assault, I try to stick with the heavy to compensate for his lack of movement. Scratch my back and I scratch yours.

Heavies shouldn't be chasing people nor should he be trying to stick with the Logi. It's an elephant with a trunk for christ sakes. I think the Logi should stick with the heavy. If used properly, the heavy should be the brute force that leaves the holes in the majority of the opposing team's armor.

Ironically, isn't what they show on one of the vids? The heavies are on the frontlines firing while everybody is behind them pulling the rear.

Well alrighty then. I wouldn't want you on my team with that attitude. No offense to you. But good lord, you want me to run with you but I'm the man that does the killing. I'm the man who finds the targets. If bullets are flying you expect me to murder them brutally.

But I should be running after you? I'm the hunter, you're the repairer. Maybe we are not understanding each other here. Again, not trying to start a shouting match with you but I just don't understand what you are implying. You want me to follow you? That...that just doesn't seem sensible when I'm the machine of war. Maybe you give me some pointers or let me know what's around me...I will listen then.

But for you to say that you take point and you are nothing but a medic? LOL!! Yea ok...

Implying Heavies have the speed to actually hunt anybody
You are the defender he is the healer, its a symbiotic relationship
Leave the running and gunning to scouts and assaults

Well alrighty then. I wouldn't want you on my team with that attitude. No offense to you. But good lord, you want me to run with you but I'm the man that does the killing. I'm the man who finds the targets. If bullets are flying you expect me to murder them brutally.

But I should be running after you? I'm the hunter, you're the repairer. Maybe we are not understanding each other here. Again, not trying to start a shouting match with you but I just don't understand what you are implying. You want me to follow you? That...that just doesn't seem sensible when I'm the machine of war. Maybe you give me some pointers or let me know what's around me...I will listen then.

But for you to say that you take point and you are nothing but a medic? LOL!! Yea ok...

You are missing my point. Nothing about speed. I'm talking about roles. A medic being the point man seems odd to me when the brute who packs a 50 cal should be it.

Why is my medic essentially taking the role of a spotter for me? That doesn't make sense at all

Again, where's that video that shows the heavies land on the ground. You see heavies in the front firing away and assault in the back with tanks pulling up the rear. I bring that up because it shows you the best tactic, a tactic that I agree with. The brutes should be first.

The brutes are built to sustain damage but now must play shadow to a Logi only because he heals? Yet if that Logi is running around by himself, he's murdered with a viciousness by other heavies who are taking point? I've seen it happen plenty and the tactic doesn't make sense at all. The logi is the weakest, why is leading?

Heavies should be taking point, period. Not a medic.

So I was playing with my heavy alt earlier this morning. I noticed a teammate having some trouble with a merc chipping away his shields. They were going at it!! So I run over as fast as my big butt can to help out. I move to the right of my teammate to start laying in the fire. Red falls rather quickly. Unbeknownst to me, he had some friends around the corner. So here comes five of em. But they didn't know I was a heavy. So I let the drums roll watching red energy bars deplete, spreading fire over the small passage to suppress. Then something changes. I notice that they are moving forward on me without fear. Then I notice my teammate was gone chasing someone else. Down I go.

Listen, don't leave your heavy. Your heavy can wear down your opponents while you mop the rest up. I don't care about my K/D ratio, I want what is best for my team. I hate when I come to the rescue of others with my heavy and they run!!! I'm taking all the firepower because a mercs first instincts is to concentrate fire on the heavy.

Also, understand tactics. If the majority of your team is firing on the frontline, get a couple of guys and go to the left and right sides. Somewhat like Shaka Zulu's bullhead maneuver; pierce the sides. In confusion they will be vulnerable.

Rant ended...

Heavies are NOT the hunters, the scouts are the bloodhounds seeking reddots, assaults are the sheepdogs herding the reddots into the house and the heavies are the bull mastiffs guarding the house.

Heavies are the machines of war that are missing many of the cogs to work properly, guess who holds the other cogs?

You guessed it, those of us who are True Logis (not those Assault scrubs who run Logi cause of tanking ability).

Also, don't you ever insult me or any of my True Logi brethren by calling us merely medics. We're your portable resupply points, we're your own personal messiah when you die, we breathe life back into you, we're your personal machineshop that makes sure your dropsuit integrity is maintained.

We do all of this (and more) while the Heavies simply stand there slinging lead so we can do our job, which is to keep you on your feet taking the reddots off theirs. I never said I should take point either, you're my canary in the coalmine, you go first (though only when I tell you to). You listen and stay close and I'll stay close enough to give you your heavy snacks when you do a good job.

Yeah, you kill, so what, I do so very much more (and I can kill too).

Well lets see, he heals, he resupplies, he can potentially hack faster, hes much more than just a medic and far more important than someone that goes pew pew, and I say that as someone that goes pew pew
A good logi can fit in anywhere and have a massive positive effect and lay down the things needed for you to control an entire zone thats why he gets to lead the way towards that spot
Guys like you and me just shoot stuff and without the logi we would end up with no ammo, a shred of armor, and only our shields keeping us barely alive and totally impotent

Well don't insult as some mindless clunk of metal who needs you to survive. We need each other. It's like you're implying that you heal and give life that you should be listened to solely. I do not agree with that at all.

I haven't played logi since beta but when I did, I always liked to follow heavies until they lead me to a cluster of allies.

It is super annoying as a logi though, when someone you're repping decides to go sprinting away from the group. I died more than once healing people who got a mind to run off into the open while I'm trying to get their health back up. Kind of learned my lesson to let Rambos go die on their own instead of with me in tow.

Word of advice to everyone. If you're getting healed either stay put or find nearby cover. Don't go sprinting into the sunset.

Generally I run into that problem with scouts and assault more than heavies though.